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Paul Edwards aka "Buster"
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Posted on Sunday, January 07, 2007 - 03:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

...The Abbey of Gethsemani

I'd heard about this place when I was touring Orval back in 1995. Some of the brothers from Gethsemani were at the Orval Monastery the same day we were.

I'd kinda forgotten about it until we were at my folks over Christmas. They'd gotten a fruitcake from Gethsemani as a gift. The monks pump the fruitcakes full of Kentucky Bourbon. Maybe the best fruitake I' ever tasted,

Anyway, I looked a their website the other week, and ordered some of the cheese the monks make. I got the order yesterday.

FANTASTIC cheese!! The aged cheese is somewhat reminiscent of Raclette from Switzerland. Kindy stinky, but in a good way. I haven't tried the regular cheese yet.

I highly recommend both the cheese and the fruitcake. They also make a fudge laced with Bourbon.

http://www.gethsemanifarms.org/index.asp

No affilliation (Heck, I'm not even Catholic), just very satified customer.

I need to go down there and talk to them about a brewery!
 

Graham Cox
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Posted on Sunday, January 07, 2007 - 03:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Brother Graham." Perhaps that is my true calling.
 

Bill Pierce
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Posted on Sunday, January 07, 2007 - 04:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Paul, isn't there also a monastery in St. Meinrad in southern Indiana?

(Message edited by BillPierce on January 07, 2007)
 

PaulK
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They need to make some beer to go with the cheese and cake.
 

Paul Edwards aka "Buster"
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Bill,

Yes, there is. It is Order of St Benedict. St Meinrad's is a beautiful place. We've ridden our bikes thru that area many times. It's quite a climb up to the cathedral.


Paul,

I was thinking that the brothers at Gethsemani should "contract brew" for the Belgain brewing monasteries. Monday: Rochefort; Tuesday: Westmalle; Wednesday: Westvleteren; Thursday: Chimay; Friday: Orval
 

THM
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Here in New Mexico we have brewing monks: http://www.slowfoodsantafe.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogsection&id= 7&Itemid=44
 

Dave Witt
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Paul,

Do any of these products have the authentic Trappist product label on them? Just curious.
 

Paul Edwards aka "Buster"
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No, the label on the cheese doesn't have the same wording as the beers from Belgium.

It does have the monastic credo of "ora et labora" (work and pray) on the label along with "Trappist Cheese"

But I don't think all of the Belgian beers have the "authentic Trappist product" label on them. The beers from Westvleteren I've bought in-country only have a bottle cap that says "Trappist Westvleteren", no printed label on the bottle.
 

Paul Hayslett
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One of my regular brewmates is tight with a nearby Benedictine abbey (http://www.abbeyofreginalaudis.com/). Among other things, he gives them mats made of woven rye stalks grown in his garden. The mats are needed for a cheese the nuns make -- some special microorganism only grows in the cheese if it is aged on rye. Apparently, no one else in the US makes this type of cheese, so it is in high demand.

These nuns are pretty tough. One is a blacksmith. Another couple raise organic beef and tan the hides. I think it's a no-brainer that they should start brewing. There are lots of beers made by monks, but beer made by nuns would be a unique marketing niche. But they seem strangely unmoved by visions of profits and fame.
"God bless us all, every one."
 

Vance Barnes
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some special microorganism only grows in the cheese if it is aged on rye - Ergot? Hmmm?

Good to see the spread of the Slow Foods concept in the US. Especially when it applies to beer. Those in the picture look quite tasty. Drool....
 

Dave Witt
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Does anyone know of any Amish brewers?
 

Dan Listermann
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I had an Amish guy in my store last year. His "friend" drove him there. He said that he liked "Colt 45."

Dan

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Paul Edwards
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I know some Amish up in Northern Indiana that make cider and wine from fruit they grow.

I met them in a hardware store in Topeka, Indiana, when I was up there on a bike tour. I love snooping around in Amish stores. Anyway, the h/w store had a large supply of airlocks, drilled stoppers, plastic bucket fermenters, some carboys, 1 gallon glass jugs, wine yeast, etc. The two Amish gents were persuing the display and buying some yeast and some airlocks.

The real kick was watching the Amish girl at the cash register using a computer terminal and a credit card scanner to ring up a purchase for a customer.

(Message edited by pedwards on January 09, 2007)
 

Bill Pierce
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The Amish are interesting. I, too, have biked in Amish country. My recumbent bicycle draws a lot of interest, and some of the Amish are more technically minded than you might realize.

Paul, the Sprint bike club used to have a Methodist minister from eastern Illinois who biked with us. He had among his flock some of the Amish who had left the community. There's a complex dynamic, and the fact is that with large families there really isn't enough land for everyone to stay. So there is an understanding that about half of the young people will leave. They have a period of time (there's a German word for it that I forget) that older teenagers are allowed a taste of the world before deciding which lifestyle they will choose.

At any rate, we had along with us one year a young Amish guy who was 21 years old and had decided not to stay. He had some fascinating stories to tell, and yes, he talked about hard cider and even moonshine stills that some of them had built. If they're anything, the Amish are very resourceful.
 

Dan Listermann
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Paul," I love snooping around in Amish stores. "

If you ever get up toward Akron,Ohio, check out Lehmans in Kidron, Ohio. It is a real hoot!

http://www.lehmans.com/?gclid=CKOH4ZC904kCFSMkWAod0RdB9A

Dan

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Paul Edwards
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"Rumspringa" is the term that designates the period of Amish young people when they test the ways of the world before getting baptized and settling down.

BTW, most of the Amish in Northern Indiana don't earn their living by farming anymore. A lot are employed in the motor home industry that flourishes in that part of the state. Many more work in furniture factories, or their own furniture carpentry shops. A lot of custom home builders around here employ Amish carpenters for framing homes and for trim carpentry.

If you ever get thru Shipshewanna, IN, be sure to tour the Menno-Hof Anabaptist information center.

Depending on the community, I've seen Amish on multi-speed recumbents. Some communities only allow single speed bikes, some don't allow any bikes, but do allow big wheeled scooters. Some allow rollerblades.

One tour we were on had a bunch of people get lost because a "Dan Henry" at a left turn got covered by a road apple (horse pie).

Back on Monasteries, I remember that I grew up down to road from one in Cincinnati - St Gregorys. It was a Jesuit monastery, 4 year college and prep school all rolled into one. Huge place. I think it had dwindling enrollment and finally closed in the 1980's

Dan, My mom & dad have been to Lehman's many times. Dad can't get enough of it!

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Miker
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Tried some of the abbey beer while in Ruidoso, THM. Can't remember if it was brewed by the monks or by Sierra Blanca. I think it was by Sierra Blanca and that's why we didn't buy a glass to keep. It just didn't seem authentic since we weren't getting it from the monastery. Those are some nice glasses, though.

And hey, the beer wasn't bad!

You have some nice beer being brewed in Santa Fe as well. We did buy a glass to take home from Blue Corn and there was another place we liked even better across the tracks. Can't remember the name but it was a little more funky than the mall atmosphere of Blue Corn.