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Brian Miller
Junior Member
Username: Bj_mill

Post Number: 56
Registered: 01-2004
Posted From: 99.137.238.60
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 11:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Here's a testament to the value of HBD. While searching for
information about the bittering contribution of FWH I stumbled
across:

http://hbd.org/hbd/archive/2864.html#2864-4

A quote from Al Korzonas:

"As for the HBD, I personally, believe that it *IS* the
archived bible of brewing science! Well, a pretty ratty,
often with sections crossed out, dogeared, constantly
improving bible, but the bible nonetheless.

While not everything on HBD is necessarily 100% correct,
in the end we do get the correct information out. Remember
that it's all archived and 10 years from now, someone could
be searching for information on FWH utilisation and they will
come across our four posts. Cumulatively, they not only have
the right information, but also references. That's more than
you can say about most brewing books."


And here it is, 10 years later- question answered!

I raise my glass to Pat, the moderators, and the passionate
contributors through the years!
 

Michael
Advanced Member
Username: Hoppop

Post Number: 886
Registered: 03-2002
Posted From: 24.74.166.143
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 01:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Pre-HBD (ala' 1993 when I started)
Extract brewing and dumping "a bunch of hops" in the kettle....

Cooling a batch by dumping "a bunch of tap water" into the cooling kettle...

Sanitizing with "a bunch of Costco generic chlorine"....

Really going for it at the LHBS (the Cellar in Seattle - NAYADA), by dropping a few extra dollars for something called liquid yeast (I smack what, and how?)....

Post HBD 2000, or so...

A starter...whoa...

I can use a SS water heater braided hose for what?

Oh, IBU's matter, and there is something called Promash (NAYADA)???

There is brewing beyond 5 gallons?

There is brewing beyond 15 gallons?

There are divorce lawyers who specialize in cases involving brewing over 15 gallons?

Heheh...priceless....

Proof? My equipment did not change much pre-HBD and post HBD for the first few years...however....I won a bronze in 2003 in the NHC Finals using a Zap-Tap sparging setup...what did change, was my process...

Thanks, HBD (where is Karl?).

Cheers,

Michael
 

Graham Cox
Senior Member
Username: T2driver

Post Number: 1807
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 68.32.253.156
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 04:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A couple of years ago, I had never brewed a sour beer. Last year, I won a bronze medal at the NHC with a Flanders Red with cherries.

I had never brewed a Roggenbier before last year. It won a silver medal at the NHC.

This year, I won gold with a Lite American Lager.

Coincidence that I hang out here? NFW. There are some colossally smart people here and some very experienced brewers. We may have different opinions regarding brewing to style, competitions and judging, etc., but I think the cadre of brewers and the collective knowledge here is very, very high. I've learned a LOT and continue to learn from the brewers here. (And I am enjoying the faster speeds - thanks, Pat!)
 

Steve Pierson
Intermediate Member
Username: Stevepierson

Post Number: 378
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 66.162.131.35
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Amen, brother. I have learned more on this site just reading the posts and searching the archives than anywhere else on the 'net.

This is a great resource for brewers - thank you, Pat. Time for me to send another donation.
 

Denny Conn
Senior Member
Username: Denny

Post Number: 6893
Registered: 01-2001
Posted From: 63.114.138.2
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And as great as this board is, let's not forget the REAL HBD, the one Al K. was talking about. Posting has gone down over the years, but I still find it one of the most valuable resources around and read it every day.
 

Rob Farrell
Advanced Member
Username: Robf

Post Number: 506
Registered: 02-2003
Posted From: 216.27.76.200
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Amen, Denny. The first thing I did when I got the homebrewing bug was read the HBD archives from way back in the pre-internet days, when only the geeky few had email. Awesome stuff. I'll know its all over when I see the user name "-s" on some message board.
 

Bill Pierce
Moderator
Username: Billpierce

Post Number: 9188
Registered: 01-2002
Posted From: 24.150.192.193
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 09:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Rob, I can think of a couple of people who would change their username here on the board, and follow it with the message "It's all over!"
 

Hedgie Bartol
Member
Username: Hedgieb

Post Number: 223
Registered: 04-2004
Posted From: 75.206.114.99
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 10:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Just to beat this horse while it is limping... I cannot speak highly enough of all the advice I have received from the board. It has helped me time after time and I send all my buddies who are new to brewing to this board.
 

Pat Babcock
Moderator
Username: Pbabcock

Post Number: 219
Registered: 02-2002
Posted From: 136.2.1.101
Posted on Thursday, September 25, 2008 - 03:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks for the kudos. I know I don't participate as actively with either resource as I once did, but I do stop in on my own once in a while - and will always pop in when prompeted to review something. It's nice to see something "good". Bumps the ego a bit

Per the question above, Karl "retired" from the HBD and brewing, and, when last I "spoke" with him, was enjoying life as the IT security officer at UofM-R. Outside of Christmas cards and the like, I haven't bugged in in about a year. Probably a good time to drop him a line and see how he's doing - if it wasn't for Skotrat's prompting me to take it on, and Karl's patient tutelage in all things Linux back in the day, I wouldn't be able to wrangle this thing as I do today.

And while praising the HBD for its utility, let's not forget the father of it all: Rob Gardner. As HBD readers may recall, Rob is back in the States, and saw fit to augment our archive with some very early issues of the HBD. Without Rob's work, we wouldn't be having this discussion at all.
Pat Babcock
HBD Chief of Janitorial Services