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Eric Severseike
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Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm looking for inspiration for mounting my grain mill - I've ordered an AC gear motor, and would appreciate it if those of you who've got similar setups would post pics. I'm planning on building some sort of case with the mill mounted on top and room below for a 5 gal pail to catch the grist. Thanks in advance!

Eric
 

Mike Huss
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Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2009 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Eric, here's a good thread with some setups. You can see nice ones like Hacker's and Wall's and you can see my really cheesy one.

http://hbd.org/discus/messages/34426/39716.html?1165251891

(Message edited by mikhu on January 22, 2009)
 

Bob Wall
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The best part about mine is that MDF cuts like butter. And other than cutting the holes for the mill & sheave, they are all straight-up 90 degree cuts. If you have access to a table saw, mine is an extremely simple plan. I started off with scrap 2x4's and was going to clad them with MDF then I realized I could just use the MDF by itself, so the project sort of evolved as I was building it.

If you go with my design, start with a large sheet of MDF (for one of the sides) and lay out the motor, shelves, braces & bucket to get your measurements. I left 1" clearance for the bucket, but I could have got away with much less. The void-space for the belt was an after-thought, but I am glad I did it. It adds that extra layer of simple elegance.
 

Dave Witt
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Mine is a pretty simple design (the stand anyway), stolen from the LHBS's mill. Made from an 8' 2x10. I built the mill. With 2" rollers, knurled, the husks were getting shredded pretty good before I reduced the speed with a jack shaft and extra set of sheaves. It turns about 120 rpm and will grind 40# in about 15 minutes.

mill
 

Catt22
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danno
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Here's mine:

Motorized Mill 1
Motorized Mill 2


More info at http://www.oregonbrewcrew.com/mill/grain_mill.html
 

PaulK
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Wow, so someone else actually has an Automatic mill. I thought I was the lone wolf.

Nice job on the motor mount. I'm just using a 1/2" drill on mine.
 

Mike Huss
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Man, maybe it's from being beat to death by OSHA regulations for about 20 years or so, but all of you guys with unguarded pulley drives on your mills just scare me!
 

Eric Severseike
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Posted on Friday, January 23, 2009 - 03:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Guys,

Thanks for the inspiration! This board (from a long time reader but infrequent poster) really is awesome. I'll try to post some photos when I get my rig together. Thanks again,

Eric
 

Dave Witt
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Posted on Friday, January 23, 2009 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"...all of you guys with unguarded pulley drives on your mills just scare me!"

I know what you mean. I have no little kids and the belts are mainly in the back and hard to accidentally make contact with. Do you have any ideas for anything that I would be able to easily set up for a guard?
 

Mike Huss
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That's a good question Dave and the reason I spent money on the gearmotor instead of just using old motors I already had lying around. I'll have to see if I can dream up a cheap and easy way to make a belt guard. Someone else out there must have figured this out already, don't you think?
 

Connie
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My motorized mill's belt is exposed, but I'm the only one around when it is in use....
You might consider a bicycle chain guard. Should be relatively easy to modify and bikes are cheap at "garage sales"
 

Ryan Messenger
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Or, if you know someone who does siding you can have them bend up some aluminum.
 

Bob Wall
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half-moon shaped MDF for the sides, and a strip of formica for the top edge. Sheave guard done.
 

Dave Witt
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"My motorized mill's belt is exposed, but I'm the only one around when it is in use...."

Same here. I will probably never bother to make a guard for it. Unless it's an intricate piece, it would likely make the mill significantly bigger, and right now it fits in a nice little nook in my basement.
 

Greg Brewer
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Danno, yours is the most elegant design I have seen, love the vertical mount motor. Probably fits on a shelf, nice.
 

Richard Nye
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Yes, I like Danno's too. I've got a Barley Crusher (very similar to Danno's Automatic) but I've resisted motorizing it because of the bulk (limited storage space). Danno's got me reconsidering. I could rig up something like his and it wouldn't take too much space.
 

danno
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Thanks guys but the problem is that my motor is underpowered at only 20 in-lbs of torque. It works but occassionaly stalls and I can't start it with grain in the hopper unless I grab some pliers and give the shaft a bit of help. Make sure you get a big enough motor. I guess I can't complain, the motor cost me $10.

(Message edited by danno on January 26, 2009)
 

Richard Nye
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How much torque should you have for a mill? Would ~100RPM and 30in-lbs torque be enough?
 

Paul Muth
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Richard,
This is an ideal mill motor:
151 RPM, 100 lb/in Torque AC Gearhead Motor
It's actually 181 rpm on 60 cycle power and is reversible.

It is the one most commonly referred to as the "Beefy Bodine" motor. That link is the only place I've found where it is still available.

Hope this helps..
 

Mike Huss
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Posted on Monday, January 26, 2009 - 06:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Richard, this is the one I use. It works fine for me as I start up the mill before adding grain, so even if it is light on torque it's a non-issue for me because it's never starting with a full hopper in my use.

https://www.electronicsurplus.com/commerce/ccp94442-173rpm-115v-44-inchpounds-bc pg1513-149984.htm

The sad part is I only paid $30 shipped for it. It's gone up a bit since then.
 

danno
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Based on all of the posts over the years tha I've followed, 60inch pounds seems to be about ideal. The speed is a prefrece thing.
 

Richard Nye
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Both of those motors look appealing, but I was hoping to get a right angle drive to make a set-up like danno's. Any right angle motors out there?
 

Claudius Budde
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My grain mill
mill

Grain mill

More mill pics
http://s238.photobucket.com/albums/ff156/ClaudiusB/Grain%20mill/

Cheers,
ClaudiusB
 

Bob Wall
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Wow Claudius! That's insanely awesome! I assume you had that extruded aluminum stock laying around? Or at least you use it in some other capacity? It almost looks like it is from a ladder, or a window frame. What was the original purpose of that aluminum?

BTW, welcome to the board.
 

Mike Huss
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I'm not Claudius, but I'll say it's 80/20 type extrusion. They make it, Frame World, Parker, Flexlink, and others all make some too. We use it for guarding machinery and stuff like that all the time.

http://www.8020.net/
http://www.frame-world.com/
http://tinyurl.com/cjdnnu
http://www.flexlink.com/

It truly is beautiful Claudius, great job!
 

Claudius Budde
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"BTW, welcome to the board."
Thanks Bob

Mike you are correct it's 80/20

" I assume you had that extruded aluminum stock laying around? "
I get it through my employer.
Most of my toy equipment is made out of 80/20 extrusion.

Cheers,
ClaudisB
 

Mike G.
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My mill setup consists of a corona with a custom cottage cheese container-hopper. Hardly worth a photo.

However, I did find a possible use for old exercise bikes which can be found anywhere:

http://www.countrylivinggrainmills.com/index.php?action=articles&which=Maureen.t xt

Someday, when I get a real mill.....
 

Onebarrel
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My mounting is pretty simple - hinge and a jack screw... 1/4hp furnace fan motor stepped down to 250rpm - good crush and fast.


 

Ron Siddall
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Richard, try a right angle drill chuck. That might work.
 

Ken Anderson
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Password issues delayed this post, but I'm always ready to pimp beer stuff. This pic doesn't show the switch, but it's there.
I like the plank concept because I can put it right over the tun and fill directly. (Of course I'm a minority "add the water to the grains" guy.) Also, with a hook or hole in the plank, it can be hung on a wall and stored.
About inch-lb's needed, I empirically found, with this mill, that just under 40 was the minimum required.
Crusher2
Ken