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Bill Pierce
Moderator Username: Billpierce
Post Number: 12216 Registered: 01-2002 Posted From: 24.150.49.181
| | Posted on Friday, November 19, 2010 - 04:37 pm: |
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I just read something that suggests the current investigation into alcoholic energy drinks could possibly lead to banning coffee in beer, including stouts and porters. There is some medical evidence that caffeine increases the effects of ethanol, as well as the problem that some 20-something consumers are abusing these caffeine-laden energy drinks. Of course what's to prevent someone from having a shot of vodka followed by an espresso chaser? And could this affect the pilot program in which selected Starbucks are planning to serve craft beer after 2:00 PM? |
   
Paul Hayslett
Senior Member Username: Paulhayslett
Post Number: 2636 Registered: 02-2002 Posted From: 71.234.45.166
| | Posted on Friday, November 19, 2010 - 05:10 pm: |
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Use decaf beans in your porter. Problem solved, no? |
   
Catt22
Intermediate Member Username: Catt22
Post Number: 300 Registered: 12-2000 Posted From: 216.14.78.130
| | Posted on Friday, November 19, 2010 - 07:42 pm: |
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Banning the use of coffee in beer is nothing short of stupid. The amount of caffeine contained in the small amount of coffee added would be trivial and not likely to affect anyone who drinks the beer at all. What the law should do is limit the amount of caffeine added to a certain level. That would make much more sense. The dumb ass college kids will inevitably find another way to off themselves when the supercharged caffeine drinks are banned. |
   
Paul Edwards
Senior Member Username: Pedwards
Post Number: 1984 Registered: 03-2003 Posted From: 76.251.232.19
| | Posted on Friday, November 19, 2010 - 08:25 pm: |
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I read the FDA is banning pure caffeine as an additive. The caffeinated drinks like Four Loko use caffeine extracted from coffee Use of coffee is still OK for beer and coffee liqueurs, from what I understand. http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/charleston/four-loko-causes-concert-among-cra ft-brewers/Content?oid=2470791 From the www.fda.gov website http://www.fda.gov/Food/FoodIngredientsPackaging/ucm233726.htm#coffeeliquers "Does this action apply to coffee-based liqueurs? No. These Warning Letters are not directed at alcoholic beverages that only contain caffeine as a natural constituent of one or more of their ingredients, such as a coffee flavoring. The alcoholic beverages that are the subject of FDA's Warning Letters are malt beverages to which the manufacturer has directly added caffeine as a separate ingredient." I also saw that beers that use coffee are OK. it's just the alcoholic energy drinks that use caffeine as a separate ingredient that are being targeted. But there's nothing to stop a person from mixing Red Bull and vodka on their own, or from a bar serving such a drink (Message edited by pedwards on November 19, 2010) |
   
Bill Pierce
Moderator Username: Billpierce
Post Number: 12219 Registered: 01-2002 Posted From: 24.150.49.181
| | Posted on Friday, November 19, 2010 - 08:43 pm: |
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Thanks, Paul, for the update and clarification. |
   
Bob G.
Advanced Member Username: Brewerbob
Post Number: 644 Registered: 06-2002 Posted From: 192.77.86.2
| | Posted on Saturday, November 20, 2010 - 08:02 am: |
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I feel so safe with the government protecting us from everything!  |