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Bill Pierce
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Post Number: 12216
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Posted on Friday, November 19, 2010 - 04:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I just read something that suggests the current investigation into alcoholic energy drinks could possibly lead to banning coffee in beer, including stouts and porters. There is some medical evidence that caffeine increases the effects of ethanol, as well as the problem that some 20-something consumers are abusing these caffeine-laden energy drinks.

Of course what's to prevent someone from having a shot of vodka followed by an espresso chaser? And could this affect the pilot program in which selected Starbucks are planning to serve craft beer after 2:00 PM?
 

Paul Hayslett
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Posted on Friday, November 19, 2010 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Use decaf beans in your porter. Problem solved, no?
 

Catt22
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Posted on Friday, November 19, 2010 - 07:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Banning the use of coffee in beer is nothing short of stupid. The amount of caffeine contained in the small amount of coffee added would be trivial and not likely to affect anyone who drinks the beer at all. What the law should do is limit the amount of caffeine added to a certain level. That would make much more sense. The dumb ass college kids will inevitably find another way to off themselves when the supercharged caffeine drinks are banned.
 

Paul Edwards
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I read the FDA is banning pure caffeine as an additive. The caffeinated drinks like Four Loko use caffeine extracted from coffee

Use of coffee is still OK for beer and coffee liqueurs, from what I understand.

http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/charleston/four-loko-causes-concert-among-cra ft-brewers/Content?oid=2470791

From the www.fda.gov website

http://www.fda.gov/Food/FoodIngredientsPackaging/ucm233726.htm#coffeeliquers

"Does this action apply to coffee-based liqueurs?

No. These Warning Letters are not directed at alcoholic beverages that only contain caffeine as a natural constituent of one or more of their ingredients, such as a coffee flavoring. The alcoholic beverages that are the subject of FDA's Warning Letters are malt beverages to which the manufacturer has directly added caffeine as a separate ingredient."


I also saw that beers that use coffee are OK. it's just the alcoholic energy drinks that use caffeine as a separate ingredient that are being targeted.

But there's nothing to stop a person from mixing Red Bull and vodka on their own, or from a bar serving such a drink

(Message edited by pedwards on November 19, 2010)
 

Bill Pierce
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Posted on Friday, November 19, 2010 - 08:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks, Paul, for the update and clarification.
 

Bob G.
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Posted on Saturday, November 20, 2010 - 08:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I feel so safe with the government protecting us from everything!