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Andy Hancock
Intermediate Member
Username: Ahancbrew1

Post Number: 328
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 192.55.55.41
Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2012 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I brewed the Sister Star of Sun recipe on 11-27-11. here
I followed the recipe as close as possible. I used pellets hops instead of whole hops, which my LHBS doesnít seem to like to sell.
My first impression was that the beer was not too bitter to be enjoyable. I thought the beer might be too hoppy for three reasons
1) 3 ounces of Chinook 12.1A pellets for 60 minutes of the boil
2) 2 ounces EK Goldings for the last 15 minutes of the boil
3) 2 ounces Fuggles at the end of the boil

If I was creating a new IPA recipe I might have used 1 ounce of Chinook to create a IBU/OG ratio of 1:1.
For flavor and aroma hops in a English Pale Ale or IPA, I have gradually decreased the amount Goldings and Fuggles because I always thought they were overpowering.

But nothing appeared to be out of balance or overwhelming when I drank my first pint of SSOS. What I did notice later though was the beer, even with only 1 glass, messed up my stomach. I usually donít have stomach issues, but I started burping up acid. Iíve tried 1 glass on three separate occasions with the same affect. I also have an American Pale Ale (36 IBUs) on tap and I just kegged Dennyís Rye IPA (65 IBUs). Neither of these cause the same problem.

Does anyone else have a problem with this recipe?
Is SSOS with 117 IBUís more acidic the other beers?
 

Paul Hayslett
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Username: Paulhayslett

Post Number: 2981
Registered: 02-2002
Posted From: 24.2.134.193
Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2012 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I haven't noticed any issues with my eructations. (Thank you. I've been waiting years to be able to use that word in a conversation. ) But I do think I'll dial back on the bittering hops if I make this recipe again. If anything, I'd like MORE hop aroma, so I'd probably dry hop with another ounce of Fuggles. But I'd cut back on the bittering hops by at least a third.

Whether the beer is "properly" balanced is an unanswerable question. I think that's a matter of personal preference -- there's no objective yardstick. But my personal preference would be for something less bitter, more aromatic.
 

Bill Pierce
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Username: Billpierce

Post Number: 13479
Registered: 01-2002
Posted From: 24.150.49.181
Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2012 - 02:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I brew SSoS to a calculated 87 IBUs (2 oz. bittering hops per 5 gal.), not because I've had any stomach acid issues with it, but because I really couldn't distinguish any more bitterness with the extra hops. I suppose I'm just not a hop freak. I do add the flavor addition as first wort hops. It seems to give it a nice balance and smooth out the hop presence a bit. As Paul says, bittering and hop character are a matter of perception and preference. I will say that the version of SSoS I brew is probably my all-time favorite IPA.
 

Andy Hancock
Intermediate Member
Username: Ahancbrew1

Post Number: 334
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 192.55.55.37
Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2012 - 03:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I agree with decreasing the bitterness and I'll probably increase the late hops next time I brew it.

I was going to check the ph of my 3 different beers, just for the fun of it, but my ph strips don't go down far enough.
 

Tom Viemont
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Username: Vantas

Post Number: 123
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 158.228.72.1
Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2012 - 03:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Could the stomach issues be related to yeast rather than hops?
 

ChriSto
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Username: Christo

Post Number: 851
Registered: 02-2006
Posted From: 216.176.226.154
Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2012 - 04:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

In the past 2 years, I have made several late-hop APAs that I indeed had some stomach/eructation issues as well as heart burn. Never a problem previously and not a problem with lower-hopped beers. I've been wanting to brew SSoS for years, so I might make it and see if I have similar issues.
 

Tex Brewer
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Username: Texbrewer

Post Number: 714
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 173.252.142.149
Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2012 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Andy, in order to reduce your eructification problem, stick to making a beer such as:
4.2% ABV
110 calories
6.6 g carbs
6.4 IBUs
rice as an adjunct grain
 

Vance Barnes
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Username: Vancebarnes

Post Number: 4254
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 76.122.104.54
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2012 - 12:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Pollished off one keg and working on another and no issues. What category did the recipe win at the NHBC last year? Was it an English pale ale? Think Chumley spotted the recipe in Zymergy as being SSOS?
 

Dave Witt
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Username: Davew

Post Number: 1627
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 24.7.227.140
Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2012 - 12:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I occaisionally will have a sneezing episode shortly after drinking (halfway through) a hoppy beer. Not sure if I have an allergy or what. However, no stomach problems.
 

Andy Hancock
Intermediate Member
Username: Ahancbrew1

Post Number: 338
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 192.55.55.39
Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Tom asked "Could the stomach issues be related to yeast rather than hops?"

Tom, you may be right. I had 2 20 oz glasses today with no problems. Maybe I was just drinking the beer too soon before the yeast completely settled out. I assumed the haze was chill haze.