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Andy Hancock
Intermediate Member Username: Ahancbrew1
Post Number: 328 Registered: 03-2003 Posted From: 192.55.55.41
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2012 - 10:28 am: |
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I brewed the Sister Star of Sun recipe on 11-27-11. here I followed the recipe as close as possible. I used pellets hops instead of whole hops, which my LHBS doesn’t seem to like to sell. My first impression was that the beer was not too bitter to be enjoyable. I thought the beer might be too hoppy for three reasons 1) 3 ounces of Chinook 12.1A pellets for 60 minutes of the boil 2) 2 ounces EK Goldings for the last 15 minutes of the boil 3) 2 ounces Fuggles at the end of the boil If I was creating a new IPA recipe I might have used 1 ounce of Chinook to create a IBU/OG ratio of 1:1. For flavor and aroma hops in a English Pale Ale or IPA, I have gradually decreased the amount Goldings and Fuggles because I always thought they were overpowering. But nothing appeared to be out of balance or overwhelming when I drank my first pint of SSOS. What I did notice later though was the beer, even with only 1 glass, messed up my stomach. I usually don’t have stomach issues, but I started burping up acid. I’ve tried 1 glass on three separate occasions with the same affect. I also have an American Pale Ale (36 IBUs) on tap and I just kegged Denny’s Rye IPA (65 IBUs). Neither of these cause the same problem. Does anyone else have a problem with this recipe? Is SSOS with 117 IBU’s more acidic the other beers? |
   
Paul Hayslett
Senior Member Username: Paulhayslett
Post Number: 2981 Registered: 02-2002 Posted From: 24.2.134.193
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2012 - 12:56 pm: |
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I haven't noticed any issues with my eructations. (Thank you. I've been waiting years to be able to use that word in a conversation. ) But I do think I'll dial back on the bittering hops if I make this recipe again. If anything, I'd like MORE hop aroma, so I'd probably dry hop with another ounce of Fuggles. But I'd cut back on the bittering hops by at least a third. Whether the beer is "properly" balanced is an unanswerable question. I think that's a matter of personal preference -- there's no objective yardstick. But my personal preference would be for something less bitter, more aromatic. |
   
Bill Pierce
Moderator Username: Billpierce
Post Number: 13479 Registered: 01-2002 Posted From: 24.150.49.181
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2012 - 02:22 pm: |
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I brew SSoS to a calculated 87 IBUs (2 oz. bittering hops per 5 gal.), not because I've had any stomach acid issues with it, but because I really couldn't distinguish any more bitterness with the extra hops. I suppose I'm just not a hop freak. I do add the flavor addition as first wort hops. It seems to give it a nice balance and smooth out the hop presence a bit. As Paul says, bittering and hop character are a matter of perception and preference. I will say that the version of SSoS I brew is probably my all-time favorite IPA. |
   
Andy Hancock
Intermediate Member Username: Ahancbrew1
Post Number: 334 Registered: 03-2003 Posted From: 192.55.55.37
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2012 - 03:18 pm: |
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I agree with decreasing the bitterness and I'll probably increase the late hops next time I brew it. I was going to check the ph of my 3 different beers, just for the fun of it, but my ph strips don't go down far enough. |
   
Tom Viemont
Member Username: Vantas
Post Number: 123 Registered: 03-2003 Posted From: 158.228.72.1
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2012 - 03:21 pm: |
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Could the stomach issues be related to yeast rather than hops? |
   
ChriSto
Advanced Member Username: Christo
Post Number: 851 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 216.176.226.154
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In the past 2 years, I have made several late-hop APAs that I indeed had some stomach/eructation issues as well as heart burn. Never a problem previously and not a problem with lower-hopped beers. I've been wanting to brew SSoS for years, so I might make it and see if I have similar issues. |
   
Tex Brewer
Advanced Member Username: Texbrewer
Post Number: 714 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 173.252.142.149
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Andy, in order to reduce your eructification problem, stick to making a beer such as: 4.2% ABV 110 calories 6.6 g carbs 6.4 IBUs rice as an adjunct grain
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Vance Barnes
Senior Member Username: Vancebarnes
Post Number: 4254 Registered: 03-2003 Posted From: 76.122.104.54
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2012 - 12:42 am: |
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Pollished off one keg and working on another and no issues. What category did the recipe win at the NHBC last year? Was it an English pale ale? Think Chumley spotted the recipe in Zymergy as being SSOS? |
   
Dave Witt
Senior Member Username: Davew
Post Number: 1627 Registered: 03-2003 Posted From: 24.7.227.140
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2012 - 12:42 am: |
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I occaisionally will have a sneezing episode shortly after drinking (halfway through) a hoppy beer. Not sure if I have an allergy or what. However, no stomach problems. |
   
Andy Hancock
Intermediate Member Username: Ahancbrew1
Post Number: 338 Registered: 03-2003 Posted From: 192.55.55.39
| | Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2012 - 11:01 am: |
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Tom asked "Could the stomach issues be related to yeast rather than hops?" Tom, you may be right. I had 2 20 oz glasses today with no problems. Maybe I was just drinking the beer too soon before the yeast completely settled out. I assumed the haze was chill haze. |