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Greg Brewer
Member
Username: Greg_r
Post Number: 236
Registered: 03-2005
Posted From: 99.131.131.173
| | Posted on Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 12:05 am: | 
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Crazy low traffic here, just checking in.
Milled the malts for my take on Chouffe Houblon, which I'll brew tomorrow on a dubbel's yeast cake with 1762 abbey yeast. Never had a yeast form such putty, like thick honey. Expect it will ferment quickly. |
Bill Pierce
Moderator
Username: Billpierce
Post Number: 10778
Registered: 01-2002
Posted From: 24.141.103.148
| | Posted on Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 04:18 am: |
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Traffic on the board is down these days, Greg. I wish I could say everyone is brewing, but the truth is that we get fewer visitors now. There are many other homebrew forums.
I'm curious about your Chouffe Houblon. What yeast strain did you use? I've been thinking about brewing a really big Belgian a la N'Ice Chouffe. |
Jesper Nymann
Junior Member
Username: Nymann
Post Number: 57
Registered: 02-2006
Posted From: 62.107.120.51
| | Posted on Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 01:53 pm: |
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I was brewing! Brewed a winter warmer (a little late... but it may better next year anyway  )....
I'm not very active on this board, but I visit it daily. I think there's lots of good info in the archive... |
Catt22
Intermediate Member
Username: Catt22
Post Number: 267
Registered: 12-2000
Posted From: 216.14.78.130
| | Posted on Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 04:44 pm: |
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The truth is that over the past few years many who once frequented this board have been driven away by a few narcissistic serial bullies. Very sad and completely senseless really. Seems that some of these bad actors have been reined in recently, but it appears to be a case of too little, too late. I could be wrong on this, but I don't think so. |
Connie
Senior Member
Username: Connie
Post Number: 1471
Registered: 10-2000
Posted From: 76.17.52.96
| | Posted on Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 05:11 pm: |
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I agree.
There are still a lot of visits (I think) but people don't post as much as they once did...
of course a lot of the previous traffic was the serial bullies with their rantings. |
Bill Pierce
Moderator
Username: Billpierce
Post Number: 10779
Registered: 01-2002
Posted From: 24.141.103.148
| | Posted on Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 06:25 pm: |
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That may be true, but we've only had a couple of brouhahas in the past year and none at all since the early spring. We seem to have kept our major disagreements to the World Expressions section where they belong.
I also wonder if those of us who post regularly have become experienced to the point where we seldom need advice anymore. Some years ago I created an FAQ section to answer the truly beginner questions that recur. However, they are hardly the last word even on these basic issues. I can't say I'm interested in questions such as how to start a siphon, but I know there are homebrewers who stop by periodically and would have questions about transitioning to all-grain brewing, for example. Please don't be afraid to ask. There are a lot of old hands here who wouldn't mind explaining things in more detail, and there are finer points that might benefit from more discussion. |
Catt22
Intermediate Member
Username: Catt22
Post Number: 268
Registered: 12-2000
Posted From: 216.14.78.130
| | Posted on Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 07:01 pm: |
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Bill,
I don't think it was the occasional brouhahas that many found distasteful. IMO, it was specifically the ongoing serial bullying by a few douche bags. There is nothing offensive about respectful arguments and I often find those both entertaining and educational. Harassment, bullying and pathological narcissistic exhibitionism are an entirely different thing. I don't know why it was tolerated for so long when it was obvious what the problem was. I can fully understand why you have no interest in answering the same old beginners questions, but no one is insisting that you do so. I agree that many of the experienced brewers probably seldom need advice, but there one would think that there would be a steady influx of new brewers signing on as there are on many of the other boards. Something has turned them off to the B&V's. The newbies don't see many other newbies and I think that can be intimidating to many. There has got to be some reason why the posts are down by some 80% from about four years ago and I'm fairly confident that my theory is correct. Bullying is simply not cool. Not cool at all. |
Nephalist
Member
Username: Nephi
Post Number: 194
Registered: 12-2005
Posted From: 71.129.35.30
| | Posted on Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 07:19 pm: |
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It has been slow and I went to some other homebrew sites. Lots of posts there, with miss-spellings and grammatical nonsense. And something about brewing with no pants on. I treasure this site no matter how low the posting is. |
Tim Polster
Intermediate Member
Username: Bassman
Post Number: 294
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 68.95.249.239
| | Posted on Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 09:42 pm: |
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Bill, I agree with your opinion. I feel I am one of those people who have benefitted from your advice and the advice of many others over the years.
My process is defined now and I really only post when I try something new or have a problem, which is wrong, but the sad truth.
I have always seen this board as the place of brewing wisdom on the internet but like so many other instances of wisdom in the world, it gets overlooked. |
Catt22
Intermediate Member
Username: Catt22
Post Number: 269
Registered: 12-2000
Posted From: 216.14.78.130
| | Posted on Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 09:43 pm: |
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Nephalist,
"Lots of posts there, with miss-spellings and grammatical nonsense. And something about brewing with no pants on."
Do you spot any misspellings or grammatical errors in the above quote?
Just remember to please turn the lights out when you are the last to leave. } |
Nephalist
Member
Username: Nephi
Post Number: 196
Registered: 12-2005
Posted From: 71.129.40.112
| | Posted on Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 11:04 pm: |
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Yeah Catt,
I figured I'd miss-spell in a post about miss-spelling (though I don't see the error). I'm not higher-than-thou, but when I get info from this board, I just trust it more. Maybe because the attendees present themselves professionally and double-check their postings. That's why I return. |
Catt22
Intermediate Member
Username: Catt22
Post Number: 270
Registered: 12-2000
Posted From: 216.14.78.130
| | Posted on Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 11:28 pm: |
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Nephalist,
Yes, but don't knock bewing with no pants. Naked brewing can be lots of fun, but one must obviously take much more care. The neighbors are suspicious enough of my activities, so I usually only do it at night when most of them are asleep. |
Bill Pierce
Moderator
Username: Billpierce
Post Number: 10780
Registered: 01-2002
Posted From: 24.141.103.148
| | Posted on Monday, October 12, 2009 - 12:56 am: |
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If I remember correctly, Miss Spelling was my second grade teacher.  |
Tom Meier
Advanced Member
Username: Brewdawg96
Post Number: 924
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 207.98.189.111
| | Posted on Monday, October 12, 2009 - 01:28 am: |
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I see this more as a board for serious brewers, who already know the basics.
Everyone has played nice here for quite some time (2+ years?) so I don't subscribe that the bullying has everything to do with it.. It is just that there are so many new forums out there for the next generation of brewers that are flashier, more user friendly, etc.
This is may be a greying forum, but that is also what is great about it.. Less white noise. What I like about it is, if you truely have run across something you need an answer to, you will get the best answers here, from people that really /KNOW/.
It is the best kept homebrewing secret on the internet. |
Michael
Advanced Member
Username: Hoppop
Post Number: 989
Registered: 03-2002
Posted From: 24.74.164.235
| | Posted on Monday, October 12, 2009 - 01:46 am: |
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I agree with Cat. I rarely check in here and go other places....the Frank Zappa references get a little old. If I need a "genius in their own mind (term used very, very loosely), I will go to Monty Python, Sponge Bob, Nurse Ratched, or, well....nothing.
But...Bill, kudos to you for all of the great advice you have given over the years!!!!
Cheers. |
Hophead
Senior Member
Username: Hophead
Post Number: 2877
Registered: 03-2002
Posted From: 167.4.1.41
| | Posted on Monday, October 12, 2009 - 08:45 pm: |
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" pathological narcissistic exhibitionism "
sounds like a nice band name.
brewing naked sounds like a truly awful idea, with the open flames and hot stainless steel.
you know you miss miss tranquil lizard... |
Jim DeShields
Member
Username: Niquejim
Post Number: 168
Registered: 07-2006
Posted From: 67.233.3.31
| | Posted on Monday, October 12, 2009 - 09:44 pm: |
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I read the posts here daily, although I do frequent other sites also. But if I had a technical question this is the site I would post on as I know I will receive the correct info without the guessing ( while I've never tried it I've heard that.....) BS. This is the first site I found 3 1/2 years ago when I started and my only wish is that I'd have found it sooner. |
Greg Brewer
Member
Username: Greg_r
Post Number: 237
Registered: 03-2005
Posted From: 76.223.254.16
| | Posted on Monday, October 12, 2009 - 10:04 pm: |
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Bill, I'm using 1762 Belgian Abbey II, reportedly from Chouffe. I'll let you know how it compares to Houblon, hopefully it's similar. The bottle gives some hops details but I had to guess at the malts - I used pilsner, a little 40L and sugar. |
Bill Pierce
Moderator
Username: Billpierce
Post Number: 10787
Registered: 01-2002
Posted From: 24.141.103.148
| | Posted on Monday, October 12, 2009 - 11:05 pm: |
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Greg, to my knowledge Wyeast 1762 is the Rochefort strain, which I have used on several occasions. It's quite fruity but not very phenolic. I believe the Achouffe yeast is Wyeast 3522. I have not used it, but it has a reputation for bubble gum phenolics and warm fermentation temperatures. |
davidwaite
Senior Member
Username: Davidw
Post Number: 2023
Registered: 03-2001
Posted From: 173.21.20.171
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 02:16 am: |
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Perhaps some people just don't have as much free time as they use to? |
Nephalist
Member
Username: Nephi
Post Number: 198
Registered: 12-2005
Posted From: 71.133.216.130
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 03:04 pm: |
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I'm low on spare time, but I had the grain ground a week ago and had an hour last night to set up the bucket heater and mash/sparge water. I did an overnight mash and am batch sparging as I watch the kids this morning (and Mommy sleeps). I'll refrigerate the wort for a day or two until I can boil. |
Marc Rehfuss
Member
Username: Marc_rehfuss
Post Number: 130
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 199.133.212.53
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 04:17 pm: |
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Brewed a big IPA with Simcoe and Citra yesterday on my day off. Wife was at work, and I had a leisurely brewday, watched a movie (Departed... good flick) and hit my targets spot on.
Citra smells amazing, BTW. |
Dave Witt
Senior Member
Username: Davew
Post Number: 1348
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 68.57.245.38
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 10:27 pm: |
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I have occasionally frequented other boards, but between them and this one, I don't have enough time. I don't know how guys like Denny and Bill rack up so many posts.
The other boards I've read are either too beginner like or have primadonna's that like to contradict you.
I don't ask too many questions, but when I need some quality advice I come here. |
dhacker
Senior Member
Username: Dhacker
Post Number: 1819
Registered: 11-2002
Posted From: 98.66.36.103
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 10:34 pm: |
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Agreed . . This is a matured forum of mostly long timers.
..and that's fine with me! |
Marc Rehfuss
Member
Username: Marc_rehfuss
Post Number: 131
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 199.133.212.53
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 11:23 pm: |
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"...have primadonna's that like to contradict you."
Beeradvocate.com homebrew forum has become that way, thus I rarely post there anymore. Seriously, there are people there that have been brewing for less than a year confidently speaking as if they're pros not to mention the blowhards that just love to argue.
The level of advice and general tone of civility is outstanding here at B&V. Sure the traffic level is comparatively light, but that's fine. |
Paul Hayslett
Senior Member
Username: Paulhayslett
Post Number: 2284
Registered: 02-2002
Posted From: 71.234.45.166
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 01:21 am: |
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I've been handicapped lately by a series of major work deadlines combined with serial computer hardware failures. When I'm getting 4hrs sleep per night, I'm in no mood to spend yet more time at the keyboard, even if it is to chat with you guys. Luckily, both work and hardware seem to be settling down a little. I might even have a chance to brew this weekend. |
mark taylor
Intermediate Member
Username: Marktaylo
Post Number: 302
Registered: 06-2003
Posted From: 99.25.115.8
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 02:22 pm: |
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This site is great for expert advise that I can count on and is the place I go when I have serious questions about brewing. But, as the years go by and I hone my skills I find I have less questions to bring to the forum. At the same time I feel a little intimidated by the overall knowledge level that is evident here and so don't feel that I am in a position (as qualified) to offer advice to others expecially those that I recognize as 'regulars' here.
mark
www.backyardbrewer.blogspot.com
www.thebackyardbrewer.com |
Dave Witt
Senior Member
Username: Davew
Post Number: 1350
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 68.57.245.38
| | Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 10:53 pm: |
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I've been reading and posting here for over ten years. I find that I don't ask too many questions because I've had most of them answered by reading the posts regularly. It's more like I come here for ideas, which I have garnered quite a few that I haven't had time to follow through on. |
Maxieboy
New Member
Username: Maxieboy
Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2009
Posted From: 174.42.152.246
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 21, 2009 - 05:20 am: |
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"The level of advice and general tone of civility is outstanding here at B&V." Absolutely! Long time lurker, first time poster. I found this board about 10 yrs. ago when I started brewing. Never did post but gleaned a massive amount of info through following threads and searching for 3-4 yrs. Recently started posting to a couple of boards and am pretty disappointed with the level of maturity and signal to noise ratio. My brewing process is pretty much nailed down now and I probably won't be pumping up my post count, however, I'll chime in when I think I can help or when I could use some myself. I haven't been here in some years but it feels like coming home because I see a lot of members still here that helped me so much with their brewing knowledge as I was starting out. Cheers men, and happy brewing! |
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