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Ken Anderson (24.55.254.125)
Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 06:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Okay, so what are the absolute "MUST BREW" brews for the home brewer? Off-hand, three come to my mind:

1) SSoS (Sister Star of the Sun)
2) CAP (Classic American Pilsner)
3) B52

Can we do a cut-and-paste thing and come up with a Top Ten? We'll worry about the order later!
Ken A.
 

big earl (209.222.26.27)
Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 06:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

St. Chuck's Porter
Co. #1 Red Ale
 

Hornbrau (130.76.96.17)
Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 07:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ken, Hard to come up with a top ten when people have different taste preferences and there are so many different styles. Some brewers would have a top ten of all Belgian beers, while others would have all ales or pilsners. Maybe a list of tried and true recipies for certain styles would be more appropriate.

Now with that said I can recomend all of the above except the B52, haven't made that one yet need to get some 6-row. The St. Chuck's Porter is without a doubt the best porter I ever made and maybe the best I've ever had, it's now on the "must always have some on hand" list.
 

Harwich Hall Of Fame (208.59.33.27)
Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 07:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is there a thread for St. Chucks Porter?
 

davidw (65.196.221.167)
Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 07:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Denny's 100% Munich malt & Spalt Alt.
 

Ed Fleming (205.181.240.193)
Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Another vote for:
St Chucks and SSOS.
 

chumley (199.92.192.126)
Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 07:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I don't know what Denny's 100% munich/spalt alt recipe is, but I do vote for Al Korzonas' version of the same as a must have.
 

big earl (209.222.26.27)
Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 07:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

http://brewery.org/gambmug/recs/975183377-19305.shtml
 

Denny Conn (63.114.138.2)
Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 07:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

chumley, Al K.'s recipe was my inspiration. You can find my regular alt recipe at http://hbd.org/cascade/recipes/recipes.html. Just replace the pale/pils malt with Munich and you're there!
 

Shaun Newman (128.165.156.80)
Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 11:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have never brewed the St. Chucks Porter. I have all the ingredients on hand except the right yeast. Do you think wyeast 1332 Northwest ale would be a good substitute?
 

Hornbrau (130.76.96.17)
Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 11:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Shaun, don't know about the 1332 but I brewed mine with 1968 London ESB and it came out fantastic.
 

Kyle Gendron (66.30.192.241)
Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 12:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

where can I get an AG recipe for the B-52. I've done a few searches but have come up short.

thanks
 

Chad Dickinson (198.26.120.13)
Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 01:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Anyone got a recipe for SSOS? An AG version would be appreciated greatly... Thanks

Also... I think SNPA (Sierra Nevada Pale Ale) should be on the list too!
 

JT (24.59.128.69)
Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 01:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I must brew all of the brews that I brew. Because if they weren't brewed, then they wouldn't be brews....
 

Bill Tobler (65.66.210.189)
Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 01:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Chad, here is the Sister Star of the Sun recipe.

Kyle, here is the Skot's B-52 recipe.

Brewing Method: All Grain
Yeast: Whitbread Dry Ale Yeast
Yeast Starter: 1 US Quart
Batch Size: 5 US Gallons
Original Gravity: 1.060
Final Gravity: 1.004
Alcohol Content: 7.2 %
Total Grains: 10 US pounds dry grains plus 2 pounds clover honey
Color: 8.6
Extract Efficiency: 80 %
Hop IBU's: 12.4
Boiling Time: 90 minutes
Primary Fermentation: 7 days @ 62f
Secondary Fermentation: 10 days @ 58f
Additional Fermentation: 30 days cold lagering in brite tank @ 35f

Grain Bill:

5 pounds of Briess 6 Row
4 pounds of Wheat Malt
2 pounds of Clover honey
1/2 pound of Crystal 60L
1/2 pound of Dextrin Malt

Hop Bill:

1 ounce of US Hallertau (4.7%) for 40 minutes in the boil
1 ounce of US Tettnanger (3.8%) for 20 minutes in the boil
1 ounce of US Hallertau (4.7%) for 10 minutes in the boil

Mash Schedule:

Step Mash:
30 minutes @ 122f
15 minutes @ 134f
90 minutes @ 154f
10 minutes @ 164f


Brewers Notes:

Add 1 teaspoon of Irish Moss in the Boil 10 minutes before chilling...

What can I say... this is my favorite beer that I have ever brewed... even people who don't like beer tend to like this beer...

It has never won a medal... it probably never will. It always is a club favorite but still doesn't win...

I could drink this beer forever and be happy...

I have many recipes for this brew but this is the one that started it all when I was still brewing in my kitchen...

I hope you love it as much as I do!

That is straight from the Brewrats recipe page

Building and Brewing in Texas
Bill Tobler
My Brewery
BrewBayou Club
 

ELK (66.219.192.12)
Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 01:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

While were on fav recipes what about a O-fest since March is time to brew one of those???

Here are links to SSOS and B-52..
http://www.realbeer.com/hops/sister.html

is this the latest version of b-52..its the one I brewed cept I used WLp001 and added honey at end of boil instead of in the begining.
http://www.skotrat.com/skotrat/recipes/wheat/american/recipes/18.html
 

Brad Bucklad (66.169.81.62)
Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 02:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Has anyone devised a partial mash (5 lb grain bill or less) recipe for this infamous B-52? I just finished brewing and am already thinking towards the next batch.
 

Kyle Gendron (66.30.192.241)
Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 02:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks for the recipe guys. I'll be doing that B52 for the end of summer. Maybe for the Buffett concert. That'll definately knock people on the a$$!!
 

Chad Dickinson (198.26.120.13)
Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 02:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thanks for the recipes guys!
 

Rick Workman (68.107.128.35)
Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 05:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I searched for St. Chuck's Porter (by our beloved Bill Pierce) and here is the link:
http://brewery.org/gambmug/recs/975183377-19305.shtml

A pro-mash file of recipe can be found here:
http://www.promash.com/recipes_ales.html
 

Denny Conn (63.114.138.2)
Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Shaun, my personal opinion is that WY1332 NW ale yeast isn't good for _anything_...but that's just my opinion.

My choice for a must brew beer would be Dean Larson's Christmas Tree ale (SN Celebration clone).
 

ELK (66.219.192.12)
Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Denny, I cant seem to find that recipe with deans name on it using yahoo..??
 

Denny Conn (140.211.82.4)
Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ELK, here's the way I wrote it down..I don't think I made any significant changes to Dean's recipe...

5 gal. - app. 73% efficiency 59 IBU 11.6 SRM
Mash at 155 for 60 min.
12 lb. 2 row pale malt
.5 lb. 60L crystal
1.3 oz. Chinook - 12.1% 60 min.
.4 oz. Chinook - 11.7% 30 min.

1 oz. Cascade at flameout
dry hop w/ .5 oz. Cascade and .5 oz. Centennial
Wyeast 1056
 

Midwest Brewer (194.205.123.10)
Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 08:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

hmm...I found Wyeast 1332 to be a real nice yeast for Stouts, Brown Ales, and Pale Ales. Gotta ferment it in the 60's though.

MWB
 

Denny Conn (140.211.82.4)
Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2003 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

MWB, tastes is weird...everyone's got their own. I almost always ferment in the mid 60s and jsut didn't care for it..YMMV.
 

Ken Anderson (24.55.254.125)
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2003 - 04:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Back in the saddle. From this thread, the Top Ten has become a Top Seven! Here they be. Need a couple more links and/or any corrections.

TOP TEN HOMEBREW RECIPES

Sister Star of the Sun (SSoS), an India Pale Ale
Dave Brockington
http://hbd.org/cascade/recipes/recipes.html

Classic American Pilsner (CAP), an American Lager
Jeff Renner
http://brewingtechniques.com/library/backissues/issue3.5/renner.html

B52, an Ale
Scott Abene
http://www.skotrat.com/skotrat/recipes/wheat/american/recipes/18.html

St. Chuck's Porter Co. #1 Red Ale
Bill Pierce
http://brewery.org/gambmug/recs/975183377-19305.shtml

100% Munich Malt & Spalt Alt
Denny Conn
http://hbd.org/cascade/recipes/recipes.html

100% Munich malt & Spalt Alt
Al Korzonas

Sierra Nevada Pale Ale Clone
 

Bill Pierce (208.57.122.28)
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2003 - 04:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ken, Company #1 Red Ale is not my St. Chuck's Porter recipe. Instead it is one of the recipes that comes with ProMash, both the full version and the evaluation. It also may be downloaded (as a ProMash recipe file) from the ProMash website:

http://www.promash.com/recipes_ales.html
 

Denny Conn (63.114.138.2)
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2003 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Also, Al K.'s recipe is not all Munich...it's an extract recipe that uses some Munich extract.
 

Jeffrey Donovan (66.92.196.50)
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2003 - 05:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm actually astonished at the popularity of Company #1 Red Ale. I did put a lot of thought into that recipe, it is one of my favorites and I very am happy to see it being brewed by others!

If anybody wants to send me their version of Co. #1 Red Ale I'd be happy to compare it to the original (hehehe....I'm short on homebrew, been too busy on next PM rev).

Cheers!

- Jeff
 

Bill Pierce (208.57.122.28)
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2003 - 05:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Don't forget Dean Larson's Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale clone, as mentioned by Denny above.
 

Clint Eaker (198.143.222.252)
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2003 - 06:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I've got a SNPA clone recipe that I got off this board several years ago. I think it was posted by Midwest Brewer, but don't quote me on that. I'll try to post the recipe this weekend.

brag on:
I entered this beer in a local comp and got a blue ribbon in the American PA category. The 2nd and 3rd place beers were brewed by a guy that went on to win the 2001 NHC Ninkasi Award. I know comp results are very subjective, but couldn't resist sharing one of my little claims to fame.
brag off:

Clint Eaker
 

Bill Pierce (208.57.122.28)
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2003 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So post the recipe, Clint.
 

chumley (199.92.192.126)
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2003 - 07:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I beg to differ with Denny on Al K.'s alt recipe, as I have been brewing it for several years. I suspect you are refering to the recipe published in his book, which is geared toward the extract brewer. I have used the one he posted to the digest, at the following link:

http://hbd.org/hbd/archive/1987.html#1987-2

This beer is amazingly simple to brew, but is delicious.
 

Ted Enright (68.78.149.179)
Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 01:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Dean Larsons Celebration Ale Clone gets my vote, as does SSOS, and Jeff Renners CAP. All 3 will be regular brews in my house.
 

Ken Anderson (24.55.254.125)
Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 06:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Denny, that recipe you posted looks more like SNPA than Celebration. Celebration is spiced, isn't it? ALSO! Where can I find a link to a highly regarded SNPA clone recipe and also Dean Larson's Celebration clone? Here is where this thing is at so far. Geez, one more and we would have ten. Any infringements, errors, ommisions, etc.?
Ken A.

TOP NINE HOMEBREW RECIPES
(all grain)


Sister Star of the Sun (SSoS), an India Pale Ale
Dave Brockington
http://hbd.org/cascade/recipes/recipes.html

Classic American Pilsner (CAP), an American Lager
Jeff Renner
http://brewingtechniques.com/library/backissues/issue3.5/renner.html

B52, Ale
Scott Abene
http://www.skotrat.com/skotrat/recipes/wheat/american/recipes/18.html

St. Chuck's Porter
Bill Pierce
http://brewery.org/gambmug/recs/975183377-19305.shtml

Co. #1 Red Ale
Jeffrey Donovan
Included in ProMash, the world’s number one brewing software.

100% Munich Malt & Spalt Alt
Denny Conn
http://hbd.org/cascade/recipes/recipes.html

Duesseldorfer Altbier
Al Korzonas
http://hbd.org/hbd/archive/1987.html

Sierra Nevada Pale Ale Clone

Christmas Tree Ale (a la Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale)
Dean Larson
 

Bill Pierce (12.249.104.53)
Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

One quick correction: Company #1 Red Ale is from ProMash author Jeffrey Donovan, not Jeff Renner.
 

Ken Anderson (24.55.254.125)
Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 06:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Now THAT was a brain cramp. Editted and corrected.
 

Andrew Pearce (65.101.51.24)
Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Since it's the top ten "recipes", and not necessarily beers, how 'bout Cruz's ABC?
 

LazySumo (216.87.154.130)
Posted on Monday, March 10, 2003 - 04:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I would like to add one if I may. Last fall I asked for a good pumpking ale and Pat Whitbeck offered his recipe. Not sure how many folks have made it, but I'm on my third batch (got one sitting here in front of me as I type) and it is the most consistently wonderful beers I brew. If anyone else has made this and considers it worthy of nomination I'll post the recipe.
 

Karl Keyes (24.25.81.62)
Posted on Monday, March 10, 2003 - 05:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I think it'd be great to have a "Top 10 Best Brews" as determined by the friendly folks at hbd.org. In addition to perhaps a list, if there are Promash recipe files, our local homebrew club The Carolina Brew Masters, would be glad to list them on our website. Currently we have over 220 Promash recipe files on-line and think this would be a neat category to create. Our webpage can be viewed at:

Promash Recipe Archive

If anyone's interested in adding their component of a top 10 list (or for that matter, any other great recipes), please e-mail our club's web administrator, Gary Cathey.
 

Karl Keyes (24.25.81.62)
Posted on Monday, March 10, 2003 - 06:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

For some reason, that hyperlink coding didn't work -- the Promash recipe site can be seen at:

www.hbd.org/cbm/prom.html
 

LazySumo (208.29.145.8)
Posted on Monday, March 10, 2003 - 04:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Karl, nice archive. Try these two suggestions, I don't think either one would be very hard to do.

How about a way for users to leave comments on the recipes, just something short, not a full fledged message board.

Also, how about the ability to rate these beers?
 

Denny Conn (63.114.138.2)
Posted on Monday, March 10, 2003 - 05:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ken, Celebration is _not_ spiced...it's a hoppy IPA

 

Ken Anderson (24.55.254.125)
Posted on Monday, March 10, 2003 - 08:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

My apologies Denny. I lamely confess I was confusing it with Great Lakes Brewing's "Christmas Ale".
Karl, I like your idea. Stress that it's actual recipes that are under consideration. And make the request that anyone voting on a recipe must have at least tasted the brew as made by a fellow brewer, or at best, actually made the brew.
Lazy, if you can get more people to give your ale a shot, it just may be worthy of top ten status!
And no one has a link to great SNPA and SNCA clone recipes?
Ken A.
 

Denny Conn (140.211.82.4)
Posted on Monday, March 10, 2003 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

SNPA..the AHA Big Brew recipe a few years ago was the best I've run across. I think it was called "Nearly Nirvana".

SNCA...Dean's recipe as mentioned

I'll try to dig up links for both...
 

PalerThanAle (12.20.113.30)
Posted on Monday, March 10, 2003 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Here is the Nearly Nirvana -
http://www.sunflower.com/~homebrew/bigbrew2k.html

PTA
 

Karl Keyes (24.25.81.131)
Posted on Tuesday, March 11, 2003 - 11:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Lazy/Ken -- Thanks for the comments and replies. We're continuously updating the ProMash recipe site (www.hbd.org/cbm/prom.html) and I'll forward your suggestions to our webmaster, Gary Cathey.

We're coming up on 225 recipes on-line! Thanks to everyone who has contributed!
 

Ken Anderson (24.55.254.125)
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 12:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Let's see. I am in need of the name of the author (author?) who created Nearly Nirvana, and I need a link to Dean's Ale. Also, Bill Pierce, forgive the ignorance, but St. Chuck's Porter is not a brand name, correct? Then I will put (tongue goes in cheek now) the "Top Nine Home Brew Recipes" to bed. Actually, it'll be to bed in the event of no further input!
Ken A. (schwew!)
 

Bill Pierce (208.57.122.28)
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 02:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

For what it's worth, St. Chuck's Porter is based on a recipe of (homebrew author and brewpub brewer) Dave Miller's called St. Charles Porter. There are enough modifications to make it similar but slightly different.

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