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q-ceps
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Username: Qceps

Post Number: 96
Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Friday, February 04, 2005 - 04:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is wheat in wheat beers malted (I am talking about true wheat beers with wheat being 40% or more of grain bill)?

Could such large amounts of instant cream of wheat be added instead for similar results?
 

Bill Pierce
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Username: Billpierce

Post Number: 2140
Registered: 01-2002
Posted on Friday, February 04, 2005 - 06:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Unmalted wheat is typically used in Belgian wits and lambics. Otherwise wheat beers use malted wheat. I'd have to look at the label to see if sugar and anything else (probably fortified with vitamins, but the amounts are likely small) is added, but I suspect instant Cream of Wheat cereal might work in place of unmalted wheat flakes. Organic wheat flakes are often available as cereal at natural foods groceries.

(Message edited by BillPierce on February 04, 2005)
 

David Woods
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Username: Beericon

Post Number: 499
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Saturday, February 05, 2005 - 04:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

OK, I'll bite...

What would be the difference between malted and unmalted wheat in a recipe?

David
 

Dave Witt
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Post Number: 653
Registered: 03-2003
Posted on Saturday, February 05, 2005 - 04:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Unmalted wheat would add no diastatic power, for one.
 

Kevin Davis
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Post Number: 205
Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Saturday, February 05, 2005 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the extract potential of unmalted wheat the same as malted wheat?
Kevin
 

Bill Pierce
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Username: Billpierce

Post Number: 2151
Registered: 01-2002
Posted on Saturday, February 05, 2005 - 01:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have seen the extract potential of malted wheat listed as anywhere from 1.038 to 1.040, depending on the variety. For unmalted wheat flakes, the figure I use is 1.034.

Unmalted wheat is quite high in protein and contributes to haze, which is appropriate in styles such as wits and lambics.
 

David S
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Post Number: 185
Registered: 04-2004
Posted on Saturday, February 05, 2005 - 07:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I just substituted malted wheat for unmalted in a Wit and it tastes great. May not be to style, but I still like it
 

Denny Conn
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Post Number: 4167
Registered: 01-2001
Posted on Saturday, February 05, 2005 - 08:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I've heard from European homebrewers that a lot of the wit brewed in Belgium these days uses malted wheat.
LIfe begins at 60...1.060, that is.
 

Michael
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Post Number: 179
Registered: 02-2004
Posted on Saturday, February 05, 2005 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Didn't "Farmhouse Ales" say saisons often have unmalted grains such as wheats? I added a small amount (a pound, I think) to my saison. Speaking of which, I should try some, it ought to be carbonated by now.
 

fob
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Post Number: 128
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Sunday, February 06, 2005 - 12:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Boulevard in Kansas City uses unmalted wheat for their American Wheat: http://www.boulevard.com/product_set.html
 

Chumley
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Username: Chumley

Post Number: 2730
Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Sunday, February 06, 2005 - 01:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Cereal mashing unmalted wheat rocks. Crisp character, perfectly clear beer, no down sides.