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Keith M Williams
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Username: Grok

Post Number: 151
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 151.197.19.64
Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 01:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Has anyone ever used this hop? My LHBS has 11 lbs on hand. THis is what they have to say:

New Hop Limited Offer
Nelson Sauvin
Never heard of Nelson Sauvin? That’s because we’re probably the first homebrew store around to make it available! This newly developed hop comes from New Zealand, where it was developed and released. It’s a high-alpha variety (10.1% AA) with unique aroma and flavor properties. In fact, it was this hop’s unusual grape-like, Sauvignon Blanc–like flavor that gave it its name. If you are looking for a distinctive hop aroma and flavor, Nelson Sauvin is recommended for a variety of beer styles, from European lagers to strong ales. We have only 11 pounds in stock, so call to reserve yours, or stop by the store soon. We’re offering 4 ounces for $3.50, or 1 ounce for $1.09.

Can anyone tell be more?

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Keith M Williams
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Username: Grok

Post Number: 152
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 151.197.19.64
Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 01:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

And I found this at hopsteiner.

http://www.hopsteiner.com/pdf/nz/NelsonSauvin.pdf

If I buy, I'm now not sure what to brew with it.

(Message edited by grok on March 02, 2006)

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PalerThanAle
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Username: Palerthanale

Post Number: 1639
Registered: 04-2002
Posted From: 24.106.33.146
Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 01:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It must be good if it is already in a Mr. Beer kit.
:-)
http://www.coolstuffcheap.com/mr--beer-60041-pilothouse-pilsner-beer-mix.html

PTA
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Keith M Williams
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Username: Grok

Post Number: 153
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 151.197.19.64
Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 01:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Maybe I should brew that kit then infect it with Brett?

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Mark Rasheed
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Username: The_drunk_arab

Post Number: 23
Registered: 08-2004
Posted From: 61.88.61.66
Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 03:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have used it once in a Pale Ale type beer.
I went to 25 IBU with the bittering and had an OG of 1050.
They really are very distinctive in that they impart a real Sauvignon Blanc aroma and flavour.
I quite liked them and would recommend if you want to get the gist of these hops use a neutral yeast. My pale used WL008. Wyeast 1056 would be good IMHO

Cheers and bollocks
TDA
 

Graham Cox
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Username: T2driver

Post Number: 413
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 68.32.248.92
Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 04:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hmmm... perhaps a Kolsch using WLP029, which in my experience imparts a white-wine like flavor after a couple of months.

"Stong ales" as recommended above would seem to be a waste to me, as would many European lagers.
 

damon
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Username: Nomad

Post Number: 194
Registered: 07-2004
Posted From: 141.211.186.200
Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

These buggers sound like they were made for a pale Belgian.
 

Keith M Williams
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Username: Grok

Post Number: 156
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 70.110.133.23
Posted on Sunday, March 05, 2006 - 02:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I purchased 4 oz today. I still have not decided what to brew with it. I'm leaning towards a low gravity lawnmower beer for the summer.

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MJR
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Username: Mjr

Post Number: 296
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 24.207.220.17
Posted on Sunday, March 05, 2006 - 06:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Actually, Damon, these buggers sound like they were made for a single-hop-variety Belgian Single.

 

Geoff Buschur
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Username: Avmech

Post Number: 1094
Registered: 06-2004
Posted From: 66.137.226.148
Posted on Sunday, March 05, 2006 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Hmmm... perhaps a Kolsch using WLP029, which in my experience imparts a white-wine like flavor after a couple of months."

That was my thought.
"I've been drunk for 14 years...my judgment isn't what it used to be."
 

Keith M Williams
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Username: Grok

Post Number: 159
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 192.250.112.193
Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 09:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

1. Given the high alph acid, anyone have some advice for a hop schedule in a Kolsch for 5 gal?
X.X oz FWH
x.x oz 60 min...

2. I would use WY 2565 as that is what my LHBS carries. Anyone here ever use this? What about WY 1007 fermented on the warm side?

3. PTA, Does Mr. Beer make a Kolsch kit?

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Doug J
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Username: Doug_j

Post Number: 190
Registered: 06-2004
Posted From: 207.250.116.151
Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 09:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I think they would be wonderful in a Champale.
 

Keith M Williams
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Username: Grok

Post Number: 160
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 192.250.112.193
Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Do you have a rec. Doug?

AT

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Keith M Williams
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Username: Grok

Post Number: 161
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 70.16.157.56
Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 02:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I had time tonight to put all of the data for this hop into Promash. I've checked the numbers twice. A 1/2 oz @ 60 min. 5 gal of 1.043 wort will yeild 29 IBU's. I was using Pacmans Black Widow Kolsch as a base line rec.
http://www.brewrats.org/Recipe_Exchange/REC/Black%20Widow%20Kolsch.rec

I think I'm out on my own again.

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Doug J
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Username: Doug_j

Post Number: 191
Registered: 06-2004
Posted From: 207.250.116.150
Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Actually Keith I do have an amazing champale recipe, but it is more of a wine/beer hybrid and is a pretty involved process using the methode champenoise for carbonation. I do want to try it using these hops. Soon I hope.
 

Keith M Williams
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Username: Grok

Post Number: 162
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 192.250.112.193
Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sorry, I had my Doug's confussed. When I read Champale I thought of the Champale Malt Liquor made by Pabst.

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Chumley
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Post Number: 4019
Registered: 02-2003
Posted From: 63.118.227.254
Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 09:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

>>is a pretty involved process using the methode champenoise

Gee...first his recipe is too complicated for us dumb homebrewers to brew, then it relies on snooty French techniques. I guess I will stick to trying to clone the champaign of beers.
 

Keith M Williams
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Username: Grok

Post Number: 163
Registered: 03-2004
Posted From: 192.250.112.193
Posted on Friday, March 10, 2006 - 09:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Chumley, the next time you blend and bottle condition a BW, you too can use the term.

http://www.winesparkle.com/what.html

I still see the Malt Liquor label though.

http://www.gono.com/beermagazineads/champale/c18.jpg
http://www.gono.com/beermagazineads/champale/c31.jpg

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