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matt_dinges
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Username: Matt_dinges

Post Number: 495
Registered: 02-2003
Posted From: 71.31.214.21
Posted on Monday, March 26, 2007 - 09:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'm looking to pick up a couple of these. My preferred online retailer has them, and also has some "replacement parts" for them...namely 8mm & 12mm spouts (I'm guessing the faucet comes with a 10mm). And also a non-rotating level kit...apparently the faucet comes with a rotating handle lever.

My questions for you all: What is the advantage of getting the different diameter spouts? How do they affect the pour?

And is the rotating handle annoying? Does it just spin around?
I've got my kegerator in a corner, so there isn't any reason to need the handles to rotate...

Thanks

Cheers
matt
 

dhacker
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Username: Dhacker

Post Number: 831
Registered: 11-2002
Posted From: 72.4.22.214
Posted on Monday, March 26, 2007 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

With my Ventmatics the bigger spouts caused a bubble to form in the center of the stream causing significant foaming unless I double pumped the handle to interrupt the flow for a split second. Replacing them with the smaller spouts cured the problem.
 

matt_dinges
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Username: Matt_dinges

Post Number: 496
Registered: 02-2003
Posted From: 71.31.214.21
Posted on Monday, March 26, 2007 - 09:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

dh-

Do you know what the diameter of the problematic spouts were? I would assume that Ventmatics shipped with the same 10mm spout as the Shirron...but...I don't know?

Thanks

Cheers
matt
 

dhacker
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Username: Dhacker

Post Number: 832
Registered: 11-2002
Posted From: 72.155.215.61
Posted on Monday, March 26, 2007 - 11:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Matt,

My Ventmatics originally came with 12mm spouts . . I went all the way to 8s and the prob went away. 10mm might have worked, but I didn't want to take a chance!
 

Richard Nye
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Username: Yeasty_boy

Post Number: 2046
Registered: 01-2004
Posted From: 68.4.202.69
Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 - 03:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I've got 5 Ventmatic faucets and dhacker's right, the larger spouts don't pour without significant foaming. They are made for higher carbonated (higher pressure) beers that can be pushed out quickly. The smaller spouts are made for low pressure, low carbonated beers. But I found the small spouts work the best.
 

Bob Wall
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Username: Brewdudebob

Post Number: 768
Registered: 11-2004
Posted From: 139.76.128.71
Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 - 03:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

when you order the ventmatics, can you specify which size?
"If ignorance is bliss, this lesson would appear to be a deliberate attempt on your part to deprive me of happiness, the pursuit of which is my unalienable right according to the Declaration of Independence. I therefore assert my patriotic prerogative not to know this material. I'll be out on the playground."
-- Calvin
 

dhacker
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Username: Dhacker

Post Number: 833
Registered: 11-2002
Posted From: 65.4.248.171
Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Bob,

Don't know . . When I got mine it was during the Ventmatic "Crisis" and I took what I could get. It wasn't mentioned as an option then, but with the Shirron faucets now, maybe you can specify.
 

Paul Muth
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Username: Pjmuth

Post Number: 304
Registered: 10-2002
Posted From: 65.1.148.157
Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 - 01:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This is the information that I received from Ventmatic re: spout sizes and application:

Beer Co2/Volumes1.81.9 - 22 - 2.32.3 - 2.42.5 - 2.72.8 - 3.03.1 +
Spout Size I.D.8 mm9 mm10 mm11 mm11.75 mm12 mm12.5 mm
Spout Pour SpeedVery
High
High   Medium
High
MediumStandardMed-LowLow

I ordered sets of each size and as had been noted - size does matter..

I hope this helps..
 

matt_dinges
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Username: Matt_dinges

Post Number: 497
Registered: 02-2003
Posted From: 71.31.214.21
Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 - 02:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

That does indeed help Paul. Thanks, and thanks to everybody else for the comments.

AFAIK, the ventmatics are now gone and the patents/process has been taken over by Shirron. The online retailer I use (northern brewer) does not appear to offer a choice of spouts with purchase, but they do offer 8mm & 12mm replacement spouts. I guess I need to email them and find out what it comes equipped with originally.

Cheers
matt
 

matt_dinges
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Username: Matt_dinges

Post Number: 498
Registered: 02-2003
Posted From: 71.31.214.21
Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 - 07:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

FWIW,

I heard from Northern Brewer and their Shirrons ship with 11.75mm spouts. I'm assuming this is the case from all retailers.

Cheers
matt
 

Bill Pierce
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Username: Billpierce

Post Number: 6800
Registered: 01-2002
Posted From: 24.57.224.220
Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 - 09:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does anyone know the e-mail address of Mike Rotert of Shirron? He occasionally posts messages here and likely could answer questions about the available spout diameters and whether it might be possible to make substitutions at purchase time.
 

matt_dinges
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Username: Matt_dinges

Post Number: 499
Registered: 02-2003
Posted From: 71.31.214.21
Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 - 09:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ken from Northern brewer sent him an email for me...but no direct contact...Ken was actually checking to see if he had all those other spout sizes available...not whether you could made subs.

Besides the 11.75 standard spout, NB sells 8mm and 12.5mm(not 12mm as I had said). I don't know that 7 different sizes would be necessary, but it sounds like at least a small and large would be useful.

Cheers
matt
 

Paul Muth
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Username: Pjmuth

Post Number: 305
Registered: 10-2002
Posted From: 65.1.148.157
Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 - 10:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You will find email addy's, phone numbers - et.al. here:
http://www.shirron.com/

Not affiliated AND do NOT want to be..

Nuf said..
 

matt_dinges
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Username: Matt_dinges

Post Number: 501
Registered: 02-2003
Posted From: 71.31.214.21
Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I guess that explains why I couldn't find that page while searching for "shirron faucets" there is no mention of faucets on the website!

Cheers
matt
 

Bill Pierce
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Username: Billpierce

Post Number: 6804
Registered: 01-2002
Posted From: 24.57.224.220
Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Shirron's website (http://www.shirron.com) is just a shell under construction, but Mike's e-mail address is listed (mrotert@shirron.com). I'm sure he wouldn't mind me posting it here.
 

Paul Muth
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Username: Pjmuth

Post Number: 306
Registered: 10-2002
Posted From: 65.1.148.157
Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 01:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Bill,

Hmm..

I think that his email addy is part of the "shell" that I posted....

Sorry about that..
 

Rick Hawley
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Username: Rick

Post Number: 28
Registered: 07-2003
Posted From: 64.148.35.118
Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 02:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I cant help help you with the size question but I can tell you that I got a pair of shirron faucets for christmas and they are fantastic. No more sticking faucets period ! NAFF
 

matt_dinges
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Username: Matt_dinges

Post Number: 503
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Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 05:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I'll see if my man at NB, Ken, comes up with anything...and then I'll start to deli-luge mike with emails...it would help if there would be some key words listed on that website(shirron's)...but, I don't know jack about that sorta thing(web design)!

Naw, really that chart that Paul posted is about all I needed to know...Paul, please thank the person that originally gave that to you for me!

Cheers
matt
 

Mike Huss
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Username: Mikhu

Post Number: 1569
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 24.123.94.154
Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 03:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Good stuff guys. MY Christmas present last year was a three tap tower which came with standard faucets. I figured I'd be pushing my luck with SWMBO if I asked for forward seals right off the bat, so once I get the bar built and the tower installed I'll start slowly replacing them one by one. This is all good info on the spout id's that I never knew about.

Does this info apply to the Perlicks as well in case I get them?
 

Connie
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Username: Connie

Post Number: 972
Registered: 10-2000
Posted From: 24.99.158.82
Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 04:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The perlicks work just fine the way they come, no modifications required
 

Mike Huss
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Username: Mikhu

Post Number: 1573
Registered: 03-2003
Posted From: 24.123.94.154
Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 04:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sounds like Perlick's are the way to go!
 

Mike Rotert
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Username: Mike_rotert

Post Number: 19
Registered: 04-2006
Posted From: 216.160.130.214
Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sorry for the delay in answering this....

Yes, we carry many different spout sizes, but many of the shops weren't interested in carrying all of the sizes. Northern Brewer carries the 8mm spout and 12.5mm spout.

I keep a range of spouts at my keg fridge and swap them out depending on what style I am serving. These aren't required modifications, just other options.

If anyone has questions about the faucets, don't hesitate to contact me at mrotert@shirron.com

I'll do my best to help you out!!

Cheers!