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Phil Lapp
Junior Member Username: Phil_lapp
Post Number: 50 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 216.107.199.70
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 02:22 pm: |
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I made a batch of SSOS, but of course made a few changes. I bumped the OG to 1.090 and had to use pelletized hops. I ended up with lots of hop crap in the primary. I also added some yeast slurry (Wyeast 1728) that was about six months old. Here I am about 48 hours later and nothing going on. Thoughts: 1. Do you think too much hop pellet crap would affect my ferment? 2. I warmed up my yeast, and it appeared to be moving along, but maybe it really wasn't ready to roll. If I can't see any activity by tonight, I will put in another slurry I have. phil. |
   
Bill Pierce
Moderator Username: Billpierce
Post Number: 7168 Registered: 01-2002 Posted From: 24.57.224.220
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 02:32 pm: |
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Six-month-old slurry can take quite a while to show activity, especially in a beer that big. You really should have made a starter. That said, I'm suspecting your beer will get going in another day or so. I can't speak to how well it will perform, however. The beer gods may smile on you, and then again not. It's best to pitch enough healthy yeast and not have to worry. |
   
The Jolly Brewer
Senior Member Username: Matfink
Post Number: 1606 Registered: 03-2003 Posted From: 86.128.162.236
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 03:12 pm: |
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Bill has said everything really, but maybe you'd be better off racking off any trub and pitching a couple of packets of dried yeast to get things going. Maybe the US 56 (or what ever its called now). |
   
Phil Lapp
Junior Member Username: Phil_lapp
Post Number: 51 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 216.107.199.70
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 04:23 pm: |
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Thanks Bill. I will wait another day and see what happens. I am hopeful, and I do have it sitting at about 70 degrees, so hopefully it will take off. |
   
Phil Lapp
Junior Member Username: Phil_lapp
Post Number: 52 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 216.107.199.70
| | Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 02:55 pm: |
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Alright, so a week later I am at 1.020, just as planned. New question: I don't have a glass carboy available, but want to age this for about 6-8 months before serving. It is in a secondary bucket right now. I was thinking about just kegging after another couple weeks and letting it age in the keg. Do you think there is any discernable difference aging in a keg versus a carboy? How about if I pull off a post and put on an airlock, versus just closing it up per usual? In the past I have always let the big beers sit in glass, but I don't really want to go buy another carboy right now, but I have plenty of kegs around. phil |
   
Doug Pescatore
Senior Member Username: Doug_p
Post Number: 2138 Registered: 10-2002 Posted From: 141.232.1.1
| | Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 03:07 pm: |
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Drink SSOS young.....it looses something as it ages. |
   
Chumley
Senior Member Username: Chumley
Post Number: 4824 Registered: 02-2003 Posted From: 63.118.227.254
| | Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 03:13 pm: |
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Doug is right...drink all IIPAs young...old IIPA = barley wine. |
   
Bill Pierce
Moderator Username: Billpierce
Post Number: 7206 Registered: 01-2002 Posted From: 24.57.224.220
| | Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 03:40 pm: |
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I'll be contrary and say I like SSoS best after about four weeks of aging. But the beauty is that you can try it both young and as it ages and decide for yourself. |
   
Phil Lapp
Junior Member Username: Phil_lapp
Post Number: 53 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 216.107.199.70
| | Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 03:40 pm: |
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with the OG at 1.090, I am not inclined to drink it young. The hops are great, but the alcohol has a real bite to it. Generally yes, I would drink a SSOS at like 4-6 weeks, but this one is meant to border on barley wine. |
   
Chumley
Senior Member Username: Chumley
Post Number: 4826 Registered: 02-2003 Posted From: 63.118.227.254
| | Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 03:45 pm: |
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Oh, and as to your question....I age big beers in kegs all the time...can't tell any difference between the carboy. The advantage of keg aging is that you don't have to worry about the air lock drying out, and you can carb and taste it along the way easier. |
   
The Jolly Brewer
Senior Member Username: Matfink
Post Number: 1625 Registered: 03-2003 Posted From: 86.128.162.236
| | Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 03:46 pm: |
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"old IIPA = barley wine." I respectfully disagree. I made a traditional IPA that needed a good year to become drinkable. The sheer quantity of hops both for bittering and flavour/aroma meant that it was like drinking paint stripper for at least 6 months, but after a year was sublime, and after 2 and a half is still pretty bloody amazing. SSOS at regular strength should be drunk within 6 months as it does change a lot after that, but I think phil is probably doing the right thing aging this. Phil, If I were you I'd let it sit for a week in the secondary to let the yeast drop out then keg it with dry hops and leave it a couple of months before sampling it. I suspect it will be drinkable then, but the beauty of a keg is you can keep testing it until you feel it is ready to drink. |
   
Doug Pescatore
Senior Member Username: Doug_p
Post Number: 2139 Registered: 10-2002 Posted From: 141.232.1.1
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 05, 2007 - 01:00 pm: |
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BTW, you can do a secondary in a plastic bucket for 6 to 8 months. I have done this many times with no issues. Most O2 in the head space should be displaced by the CO2 coming out of solution during the transfer, but you could also purge the head space with CO2 before transfering. If you are worried about O2 passing through thick plastic think about how much O2 might make it through. It can not be any more than what you might get when you finally transfer to the keg. Plus you have living yeast in there just that will use the O2 after being in an O2 deficient environment for so long. -Doug |
   
Hallertauer
Intermediate Member Username: Hallertauer
Post Number: 471 Registered: 03-2003 Posted From: 204.104.55.241
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 05, 2007 - 01:18 pm: |
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**but after a year was sublime, and after 2 and a half is still pretty bloody amazing** What's the difference between 'sublime' and 'bloody amazing'? Is 'bloody amazing better? |