HOMEBREW Digest #107 Thu 23 March 1989

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  Lager yeasts (Rich Simpson)
  Homebrew Digest #105 (March 21, 1989) (Spencer W. Thomas)
  Homebrew Digest #105 (March 21, 1989)
  Homebrew Digest #106 (March 22, 1989)
  Refrigerators for brewing (John Freeman)
  conf fees (again), CI$, FG, and Refrigs ("1107-CD&I/VIRUS DISEASES")
  refrigs (correction) ("1107-CD&I/VIRUS DISEASES")

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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 89 09:36:34 est From: Rich Simpson <paramax!simpson at multimax.encore.com> Subject: Lager yeasts I've got a question that I've been meaning to ask for quite some time. I have been brewing for a couple of years now, doing ales from extract with some specialty grains. My first batch was straight from a kit and used lager yeast. It was a mixed success. After that I switched to ale yeast and avoided kits. I have been very happy with my results since then. I ferment in my basement so I can never depend on getting really cold temperatures. Papazian has a bunch of recipes that look interesting that I have been avoiding because they use lager yeasts. How important is it to ferment beers made with lager yeasts at really low temperatures? Will I get good results at 60-65 degrees with a lager yeast or should I just stick with ale yeasts? Rich Simpson Encore Computer Corporation simpson at encore.com {most backbones}!encore!simpson simpson at multimax.arpa Return to table of contents
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 89 09:56:10 CST From: jlf at earth.cray.com (John Freeman) Subject: Refrigerators for brewing > I'm a little > concerned about temperature, though. Miller and Noonan say ferment in the > 45-55 degF range. Most refrigerators are set to maintain the low 40s. > Is the fridge's thermostat likely to hold 50, or will it require the > external on/off timer that some writers mention? I replaced the thermostat on my beer fridge. I bought a special thermostat to maintain 40-70F. These are available at appliance parts stores. > Ideally, I'd like to use the refrigerator for fermentaion and maybe lagering > (lower 30s), and the freezer as a mini deep freeze (otherwise it's just > wasted). Is this feasible, or does the 50 degF ferment preclude using > the freezer? (This is a big selling point to my wife.) I don't think one thermostat will allow that range of operation. > Can you use the freezer? I can't. Return to table of contents
Date: 22 Mar 89 13:06:00 EST From: "1107-CD&I/VIRUS DISEASES" <henchal at wrair.ARPA> Subject: conf fees (again), CI$, FG, and Refrigs 1. RE: Conference costs. Ok, you convinced me that a small society has to charge a slightly larger registration fee in order to meet the expenses of a national conference, but I won't be able to go at that price...so I'll have to settle for the $18.95 transcript for another year. Perhaps, what this tells us is that there is a real need for more regional conferences. For example...I know that there are lots of homebrewers in the Washington DC area but I have never heard of a local competition. The only one that I know of in this region is a competition held sometimes in Philadelphia in the Fall. Will someone out there correct me if I am wrong about this? What does it take to organize an AHA sponsored competition or conference...besides bucks? Also, can it be done cheaply? I notice that this stuff seems to go on all the time in California and the Southwest. 2. I predict that the COMPUSERVE....CI$ (I like it)...forum will fail. I have been a member of CI$ for almost 8 years, and it ain't hard to run up $50-100 monthly bills using a forum regularly. Even though I am pessimistic about the forum, I will heed Steve Conklin advice and try to participate overthere more frequently. I suggested some time ago that it would help if summarized portions of the discussions held here be transferred to libraries at CI$. Mea cuppa, mea cuppa...I didn't follow through because of the lack of real action in the WINEFORUM. With regard to letting Charlie know about how I feel....wouldn't it be easier if he could just listen in....after all, I'm not sure I know how to get messages to folks not in any kind of network or bulletin board....I remember vaguely something about envelops and stamps :-).....Many thanks to Dave Dunn for his instructional comments about network addresses. I never really understood what happens to my messages after they leave my machine. 3. RE: Specific gravity measurements. I'm not sure that the final FG that you obtain is any measure of the time to bottle. I had been taught (and experience has shown) that a brew is ready to bottle when the SG remains constant over the course of 3 days. (In reality, I don't test the SG that often...I merely look at the amount of overall activity and the head...a falling head is a good measure of a completing fermentation.) That FG might be 1.006, 1.015, 1.025 (or whatever) depending upon the amount of non-fermentable dextrins in the beer. I noticed that Nancy Vineyard recommends the use of Clintest paper strips (?) in this quarter Zymurgy. I think her recommendation has always been to measure the amount of sugar left in the ferment. If I'm not mistaken the amount of fermentable sugar should be less than 2%...don't hold me to this number. 4. RE: Danish lager Yeast. Is this what they call #2007 or is this #308. Can someone post the different characteristics of these yeasts. I have never seen this information anywhere...growth characteristics, expected attenuation, optimum growth characteristics, etc. 5. RE: Refrigerators. My refrigerator (15 cu ft) keeps to 49 degrees F on the DEFROST setting and 29 degrees F. No, I can't use the freezer with the DEFROST setting on. If I don't set the 'frig to defrost, the box stays a pretty constant 44 degrees F. Erik A. Henchal <Henchal at WRAIR.ARPA> Return to table of contents
Date: 22 Mar 89 13:10:00 EST From: "1107-CD&I/VIRUS DISEASES" <henchal at wrair.ARPA> Subject: refrigs (correction) Errata: My refrigerator keeps at 29 degrees F on the maximum setting (the coldest). Sorry for the previous ommission. Henchal at WRAIR.ARPA Return to table of contents
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