HOMEBREW Digest #3880 Mon 04 March 2002

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  SS washing machine hose wrap beats EZ masher ("Peter Fantasia")
  re: Pressure Canning Wort (Ed Jones)
  re: Guiness tang (Brewtun)
  RE:  Sparkaloid ("David Houseman")
  Re: Basements and drainage (GASNER)
  Oxyclean Incident and Warning ("Mike Brennan")
  Whole hops and Low OG ("Brian M Dotlich")
  RE: Steve Alexander/ Harsh Beer ("Greg Collins")
  The mash tun delema ("Brian M Dotlich")
  re: Simple Mead ("Mark Tumarkin")
  Call for Judges - MCAB-IV ("Chuck Bernard")
  re: SIMPLE MEAD (Rama Roberts)

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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 07:28:57 -0500 From: "Peter Fantasia" <fantasiapeter at hotmail.com> Subject: SS washing machine hose wrap beats EZ masher Hi Bret, I'm curious as to what type of kettle you're using. Did you attach the mesh outside the kettle or inside? How much were you brewing and did you use pellet hops? I use a homemade version of the ez-masher( mine is about a foot long) for mashing and boiling and the only way I've found to keep the hops out(pellets) and to prevent clogging is to use a large nylon boiling bag attached to a string. That way I can remove the bag and add hops for each addition. It would seem to me that mesh would be an even finer screen. I don't see how that would prevent clogging when brewing 10 gallons of IPA or APA with large volumes of pellets. Thanks Pete Fantasia Mays Landing NJ Return to table of contents
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 09:10:42 -0500 (EST) From: Ed Jones <ejones at ironacres.com> Subject: re: Pressure Canning Wort I pressure can wort for use in starters. I buy a bunch of light DME and some yeast nutrient, add enough water to give me a 1.050 wort after a 15 minute boil The 15 minute boil is just to knock down the population of critters. Then I chill the wort to where it won't crack the Ball jars, but not to pitching temps. I fill up a bunch of quart jars and put the lids and bands on. (Follow your normal procedure for this) Then I set the canner for 15PSI and load it up with jars. I'll put enough water in to submerge the bottom 1/4 or so of the jars. I also add a touch of white vinegar to keep the mineral deposits down. Once I get a good steam going, I'll let it go for 15 minutes at 15PSI. Let cool, verify there is no pressure, remove lid, remove jars, repeat. It's just like canning any type of acidic juice. I've never had a wort infection doing this. I'm not a canning expert. In fact, wort is the only thing I've ever canned :-) - -- Ed Jones - Columbus, Ohio U.S.A - [163.8, 159.4] [B, D] Rennerian "When I was sufficiently recovered to be permitted to take nourishment, I felt the most extraordinary desire for a glass of Guinness...I am confident that it contributed more than anything else to my recovery." - written by a wounded officer after Battle of Waterloo, 1815 Return to table of contents
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 09:39:33 EST From: Brewtun at cs.com Subject: re: Guiness tang I've never tasted the so called "tang" in Guiness , stale ,fresh, or otherwise. What I do detect is a bit of hop character that I believe some mistake for the "tang". Cheers, Brewtun Return to table of contents
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 09:52:07 -0500 From: "David Houseman" <housemanfam at earthlink.net> Subject: RE: Sparkaloid Mike, Wait. Your mead will clear. My experience with sparkaloid is exactly as you described it. While it took several weeks, both mead and beer eventually cleared bright. It seemed to me that this was a natural process as the yeast finally finished up, the spakaloid caused the yeast to drop. Perhaps if I'd been more patient to begin with I wouldn't have needed the sparkaloid or it would have cleared more quickly. Patience and gravity do work... Dave Houseman Return to table of contents
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 15:20:44 EST From: GASNER at aol.com Subject: Re: Basements and drainage Steve Heffner writes: > Newer houses have plastic barrier sheeting under the floor, and I would > just use an epoxy floor finish to seal it up. Note epoxy paint is > usually only paint. You would want a genuine two-part epoxy sealer, > that goes on nice and thick as in commercial applications. I am not > sure when they started putting the plastic barrier in; mayebe someone > can shed some light on this? I once painted a 1 yr. old garage floor with two part epoxy paint. (Northern Illinois, Arlington Hts.) It was good as new 15 yrs later. This after driving on it every day, winter summer, salt, sand, dirt, etc. I don't think that there was any plastic under the concrete. 1. Wash with acid first. 2. Neutralize 3. Rinse 4. Paint with two part. Include a few packets of grit that the paint store sells for making floors 'non slip'. (That works very well) 5. That little spot that didn't wet completely, (i.e., as if a touch oily), but is 'good enough', . . . well, it is NOT good enough. The floor must wet perfectly before you can paint it if you want the paint to stick. Do not ask me how I know. Earl L. Gasner gasner at aol.com Return to table of contents
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 18:10:32 -0600 From: "Mike Brennan" <brewdude at tampabay.rr.com> Subject: Oxyclean Incident and Warning After reading all the posts on Oxyclean I decided to try it to get some beerstone out of a glass carboy. I mixed in 3 scoops to 6 gallons. I got distracted and wound up leaving it soak overnight. I didn't think it would be a problem The next morning I woke to a stubborn oxiclean cake that had settled on the bottom. I tried a spray it out and even used a carboy brush which got a lot off. But there is still some residuals that are proving difficult to reach. I need to make sure its all out before I use the carboy again. I am afraid to put any other chemicals in to loosen it as I don't want to risk an adverse reaction. Any ideas? Return to table of contents
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 18:59:46 -0500 From: "Brian M Dotlich" <BMDotlich at cs.com> Subject: Whole hops and Low OG Brewers. I have been noticing that for some reason in all my batches, my OG has never been as high as what I was anticipating. and this last batch was quite a bit lower than what I had expected I have always used whole hops exclusively 7 lbs light LME 1.5 lbs DWC caravienne 1.8 oz Northern Brewer whole hops (8.3% AA) for boiling 1.0 oz Northern Brewer whole hops (8.0% AA) 15 minutes 1/4 tsp rehydrated Irish moss Wyeast 2112 I boiled 7 gallons for 60 minutes and had anticipated a starting gravity of at least 1.058 I ended up with 5 gallons at 1.048 My Hypothesis is perhaps as the whole hops absorb water that they also absorb some of the sugar out of the wort. Is this correct? If so what is a good way for taking this into account? Brian Dotlich Centerville OH Return to table of contents
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 22:24:02 -0500 From: "Greg Collins" <gmc at setel.com> Subject: RE: Steve Alexander/ Harsh Beer Steve Alexander ask the following questions about my harsh, bitter tasting beer: Steve Wrote: Is it all-grain - right ? How much *total* water (mash+sparge) do you use per pound of grist ? How much hops in ounces ? The total water should be under 1gal/lb. You should use a high alpha bittering hops for bittering purposes since too much total hops in a brew can give herbal vegetable flavors. <snip> Yes Steve, It is all-grain. I do a simple one step infusion mash using 1.3 qrts/lb of water, unless I do a cereal mash which I use a bit more (1.5~1.8). After a 60 min. rest I then mash out at about 168~170 degrees after an additional 15 min wait. As for my hop schedule, I was able to find notes on one of the harsh batches: [10 gal. batch] 1 oz Northern Brewer 60 mins. 1 oz Northern Brewer 30 mins. 1 oz Cascade 5 mins. I have been known to use twice this amount with lower alpha acid hops, but I can't remember if the harsh taste was present. As for total water used? I seem to always get what I need before dropping below a gravity of 1.010. And then usually come up short after the boil. But that's another story... Your comments about sanitizer may have solved the mystery. I never rinse my carboy after sanitizing. I just turn it up and let it drain. And considering the fact that I always rack my brews, that's just another invitation to add more. About two months ago I went to 5 gallon buckets and installed spigots to make life easier. I bet the glass drains more of the residual stuff better than plastic, so this may be my problem. One thing for sure, if there's a hard way to do something-- I'll always find it. We shall see....Thanks for your help Steve. gmc Eastern, KY. Return to table of contents
Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 18:47:30 -0500 From: "Brian M Dotlich" <BMDotlich at cs.com> Subject: The mash tun delema Dear brewers, Soon I will begin my journy into all grain brewing and I am in the begining stages of building my mash tun. I have decided to go with the rubbermaid beverage cooler as my vessel because I believe that they are the most well insulated. I have one delema, I'm not sure wether to use 5 gallon or 10 gallon coolers. I am pretty sure that I will never want to brew 10 gallon batches because to be honest 5 gallons of one kind of beer is about as much as I can commit to (what can I say I like variety). Anyway, I've herd some people say that the 5 gallon coolers are almost too small for 5 gallon batches. But I'm also concerned that a 10 gallon tun would be too much and cause the grian bed to be too thin to get a good lauter. So my question is; at a typical girst/water ratio of 1.5 quarts per pound how much mash (in terms of pounds of grain) can fit in a 5 gallon rubbermaid cooler? And, how tall will the grain bed be in a 10 gallon rubbermaid with a typical 5 gallon batch of 7 pounds of grain? Your thoughts are appriciated Brian Dotlich Centerville OH Return to table of contents
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 08:32:44 -0500 From: "Mark Tumarkin" <mark_t at ix.netcom.com> Subject: re: Simple Mead George, There is another approach, to a simple mead. Keep it really simple - don't boil or use bisulfites. I've tasted excellent mead that wasn't sterilized at all - add honey, water and yeast to carboy, period. I haven't tried that myself yet. Personally, I flash pasteurize. I just heat a gallon of water to a little below boiling and add a gal of honey, let sit for approx 1/2 hr, add to carboy with remaining water (which I've put in the fridge to get cold), filling to 5 gal total. Check temp and pitch yeast. As to adjusting pH, generally not necessary. As usual, pitch lots of yeast - especially important with mead as the honey doesn't contain the nutrients that a beer wort does. A melomel (mead with fruit) has much more nutrients and will generally ferment quicker than a traditional mead for this reason. Some meadmakers add acid to adjust the taste balance (as opposed to pH balance). Again, I don't find this generally necessary, but if you choose to try it, add very slowly after fermentation is complete until you get where you want. Some people do use lemon juice, others use acid blend. Generally, with mead, the simplest approach is best. Mark Tumarkin Gainesville, FL For more mead info, check out the Mead Lovers Digest. Send ONLY articles for the digest to mead at talisman.com. Use mead-request@ talisman.com for [un]subscribe/admin requests. Digest archives and FAQ are available at www.talisman.com/mead. There is a searchable MLD archive at hubris.engin.umich.edu/Beer/Threads/Mead Return to table of contents
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 20:27:03 -0500 From: "Chuck Bernard" <bernardch at mindspring.com> Subject: Call for Judges - MCAB-IV The Fourth Annual Masters Championship of Amateur Brewing (MCAB-IV) to be held in Cleveland Ohio April 12 - 13, 2002! The Masters Championship of Amateur Brewing (MCAB) is a grassroots amateur brewing championship. The format of the MCAB is a small, invitational "champions' championship". Twelve of the most prestigious local competitions in the United States and Canada have been selected as MCAB Qualifying Events. First place winners in twenty (beer) qualifying styles at each qualifying event receive an invitation to enter the MCAB in that style. MCAB entrants are free to enter any one beer they wish in their qualifying style, including samples from fresh batches brewed specially for the MCAB. This format allows MCAB entrants to brew and submit beers at peak levels of freshness and conditioning, and have their beers judged in small flights by panels of some of the best and most experienced judges in the country. Another goal of the MCAB is to provide an opportunity for the amateur brewing community to congregate for a low cost, yet high-quality technical conference that is produced by amateur brewers, for amateur brewers. Details of the technical conference can be found on the MCAB website (www.hbd.org/mcab). An on-line registration form for the technical conference will be posted in the next few days. Three local homebrew clubs have pooled resources to bring this event to Cleveland and are busily putting the final details together for what is sure to be an exciting weekend of competition and technical presentations. CALL FOR JUDGES Judges are needed for the event. Judging will begin with a single flight on Friday evening (approximately 6:00PM) April 12, 2002 and a second judging session is tentatively scheduled on Saturday morning, April 13. Best of Show judging will take place late Saturday afternoon between the technical conference and the awards banquet Saturday evening. We are hoping for sufficient judge attendance in order to judge as many BJCP styles as possible during the Friday evening session to allow for an expanded slate of technical presentations on Saturday. An on-line Judge Registration form along with full details of the MCAB weekend can be found at the MCAB website (www.hbd.org/mcab). I hope to see you in Cleveland! Sincerely, Charles Bernard bernardch at mindspring.com Medina, OH Competition Organizer and Judging Director MCAB-IV Return to table of contents
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 18:54:32 -0800 (PST) From: Rama Roberts <rama at eng.sun.com> Subject: re: SIMPLE MEAD George writes: > What if I just soak the foil/plastic honey package in 180 F water for > a half hour, then add it to cooled preboiled water to make up what > should be a sterile must? I suppose you could transfer it to a pot and heat it to 180F, then add that to preboiled water. I would put a portion of the water in with the honey though, so its easier to transfer- you don't want to be scraping the sides to get it all out and risk introducing contaminants. Or just heat the full gallon- it shouldn't take long to chill it to the appropriate temperature, you could even put the pot in an ice bath or something if you don't want to go the emmersion/counter-flow route. > I would like to adjust the must pH, if necessary, using lemon juice You're probably better off leaving the pH alone. First and only time I made a mead, I used acid to lower the pH (as advised by Papazian), and by the time it was done fermenting, it was too low, like 3.0. Acid was unnecessary. - --Rama Roberts San Francisco bay area Return to table of contents
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