HOMEBREW Digest #396 Wed 11 April 1990

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  RE: stuck fermentation (Barry Cunningham)
  More Subite Cassis (John Mellby)
  Beer judge exam, Boulder, Colorado
  small scale mash update #1 (Enders)
  Beer judge exam, Oakland, CA
  Homebrew Supply Stores listing (D_KRUS)
  yeast for wheat beer (Donald P Perley)
  Re: sulphur odor in wort (Stuart Crawford)

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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 10 Apr 90 08:35:30 EDT From: abvax!calvin.icd.ab.com!bwc at cwjcc.INS.CWRU.Edu (Barry Cunningham) Subject: RE: stuck fermentation In HBD #395 David P. McElroy writes > For the first time I used 2 cups of crystal barley, irish moss, no > corn sugar, pre-boiled all water, and rehydrated the yeast before > adding it to the cooled wort. And for the first time :-( the > fermentation was very slow. After 10 days the specific gravity dropped > to 1.020 and then nothing! Sounds good to me! When you go to malt recipes you'll find you'll end up with a higher gravity at the end because it has more good stuff in it! Bottle it up and send it to me I say! -- Barry Cunningham Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 90 09:23:55 CDT From: jmellby at ngstl1.csc.ti.com (John Mellby) Subject: More Subite Cassis One of the beers which I cannot get in Texas is the Mort Subite Cassis lambic. Lambics are, of course, fermented with wild yeast, and the cassis is black-currant flavored. I was considering the problems in making this beer at home, and wondered if anyone had any suggestions. 1. Malt - I'm told fruit beers are typically made with a lot of wheat malt. I haven't had any experient with wheat. Is there any extract people would suggest? 2. Yeast - what in the world yeast do you replace the wild Belgian yeast with? 3. Black-currants. What are these, where do you get them? I have used frozen raspberries or blackberries, but I haven't seen these in the grocery. The local homebrew store doesn't list any black-currant juice for making wine, but they do have cassis (black-currant) flavoring for making liquors with. Any idea what this flavoring would do to beer? Surviving the American Dream John R. Mellby Texas Instruments jmellby%ngstl1.ti.com P.O.Box 660246, MS 3645 Dallas Texas, 75266 (214)517-5370 (214)343-7585 ********************************************************************** * "A facility for quotation covers the absence of original thought." * * -- Lord Peter Wimsey (Dorothy L. Sayers, "Gaudy Night") * ********************************************************************** Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 90 08:54:47 mdt From: hplabs!hplms2!hp-lsd.cos.hp.com!att!drutx!homer Subject: Beer judge exam, Boulder, Colorado Beer Judge Certification Program Exam Boulder, Colorado May 22, 1990 Evening Contact: Anne Blake (303) 447-0816 Full details on the program are contained in a booklet that can be requested by sending a postal address to: att!drutx!homer, or AHA, PO Box 287, Boulder, CO 80306. Attn: BJCP Administrator Jim Homer Co-director BJCP att!drutx!homer Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 90 10:20:39 -0500 From: Enders <enders at plains.NoDak.edu> Subject: small scale mash update #1 Well, this weekend, I got my goodies together and attempted to do a 2 gal., all grain brewup. As usual, the first attempt at anything is frought with peril. In this case, it was when I was boiling my brewing water to decarbonate it. I had 5 gal. of water spread amongst 3 pots with all the burners on high. I was moving one of the larger pots from a small burner to the only large burner when something *interesting* happened. I sort of dragged the pot accross the stovetop, not noticing the plastic bowl lid sitting there between the burners. It's really amazing how plastic lids want to cling unnoticed to pot bottoms until you set them on a red hot burner :-) :-) :-) After I cleaned up the melted plastic on the stove & kitchen floor, I set about preparing for the next morning's activities. I started the yeast, weighed & crushed the malt (a bit too fine, prehaps), and retired to bed, dreaming of the wonderful brew I was about to make. The mash went well (2 hrs at 145-152F) , but I had trouble getting the pH down (it's definately the water!). I tasted a sample of the mash, and it tasted nice and sweet, so I assumed conversion went ok. Then on to sparge! It turned out that I did crush the malt a bit too fine, as I ended up with a set mash! :^) I managed to get the flow back by skimming the fines off the top of the filter bed, redistributing the grain and starting again (several times) The first 4 quarts took 2.5 hrs. and the last 8 quarts took only 1/2 hour. Now on to boil. The boil was uneventful, except for the fact that I didn't check to see if my boiling kettle would hold all the wort (it didn't :-). So, I split it up into 2 pots, and boiled away. I had to make up for the greater evaporation later, but I didn't worry about it at that moment. Everything was proceeding nicely at this point. I cooled the wort in the bathtub. Using ice water, it only took 25 mins to cool from boiling to 65F. I pitched the yeast (Wyeast 1028) and waited (and worried just a bit :-). 18 hours later, the airlock starts bubbling, and 28 hrs after pitching, I had a 2 inch head of foam built up! :-) :-) :-) I must have done good, because I seem to have a real happy crop of yeasties working in there. So, at this time I must conclude that mashing small batches is practical (and more important, FUN!). I scaled the IPA recipe from Dave Miller's book, and this seems to work ok, but I seemed to get greater color extraction from the crystal malt ( 80L ), as the wort seemed a good bit darker than an IPA. This isn't critical right now, but I think a lot of it had to do with crushing the malt too fine (the pale ale malt was done in a food processor, and the crystal was crushed by a rolling pin, used until the crunching stopped). It looks good now, but the real test comes after bottling, you know :-). The extraction rate was right up there: Miller's recipe: OG 1.046 My batch: OG 1.043 Only time will tell if I done good, but the waiting is the hard part (and I don't have any homebrew to ease the agony :^). More to follow..... Todd Enders ARPA: enders at plains.nodak.edu Computer Center UUCP: ...!uunet!plains!enders Minot State University Bitnet: enders at plains Minot, ND 58701 Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 90 09:48:47 mdt From: hplabs!hplms2!hp-lsd.cos.hp.com!att!drutx!homer Subject: Beer judge exam, Oakland, CA Beer Judge Certification Program Exam AHA National Homebrew Conference Oakland, CA June 13, 1990, Wednesday Morning and June 16, 1990, Saturday Morning The Saturday exam is at the same time as the brunch at Anchor brewery. The Wednesday exam is provided for those who wish to take the exam and visit Anchor. Contact: Anne Blake (303) 447-0816 Full details on the program are contained in a booklet that can be requested by sending a postal address to: att!drutx!homer, or AHA, PO Box 287, Boulder, CO 80306. Attn: BJCP Administrator Jim Homer Co-director BJCP att!drutx!homer Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 90 11:50 EST From: <D_KRUS%UNHH.BITNET at MITVMA.MIT.EDU> Subject: Homebrew Supply Stores listing Distribution-File: homebrew%hpfcmr at hplabs.hp.com Hi, Can anyone tell me if anyone has taken the time to compile a listing of all homebrew supply stores, relative to all readers of this digest. If this has been done, in which digest is it located so that I may retrieve it from the archives. Dan |--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*| | Bitnet: D_KRUS at unhh | Daniel L. Krus | | Internet: D_KRUS%unhh.bitnet at mitvma.mit.edu| Parsons Hall | | Compuserve: 71601,365 | Department of Chemistry | |-----------------------------------------------| U of New Hampshire | | "Think as men/women of action, | Durham, New Hampshire 03824 | | act as men/women of thought. | (603) 862-2521 | |--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*--*| Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 90 17:09:41 EDT From: perley at glacier.crd.ge.com (Donald P Perley) Subject: yeast for wheat beer > I know various liquid wheat beer yeasts are available, >but for a variety of reasons (you have to start 'em way in >advance, and my schedule is too unpredictable, for one) dry >yeast would be a lot more convenient. The can says the >ingredients are "wheat and water," so a yeast that's spent its >whole career munching malt might gag on it. My goal would be >something like Schell, but higher gravity. I had good luck using Edme. I am not familiar with Schell, but I don't think anyone uses 100% wheat in wheat beer. Depending on the style, you should use 30-70% wheat. I used 5 lbs pale and 2.5 lbs wheat (grain malt) and ended up with something similar to Spaten. If Schell is one of the sour type wheat beers, you could try culturing off the sediment and pitch the result in when you rack the beer. -don perley Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 90 16:17:43 PDT From: Stuart Crawford <stuart at ads.com> Subject: Re: sulphur odor in wort Many thanks to all of you who took the time to send me mail regarding my question about a strong sulphur odor in the wort. As several of you predicted, the odor (very strong on days two and three) had all but vanished by day five. I could detect no odor whatsoever when I racked into my secondary on day seven. There seem to be two working hypotheses (not necessarily mutually exlusive): 1. The odor is a characteristic of the yeast, brought about by fermentation at an inappropriate temperature. In this case, too high a temperature. 2. The odor is a result of honey (3 pounds), as evidenced by the observation that a similar odor occurs during the making of mead. Whatever the reason, everything seems to be just fine. Once again, the suggestion "Don't worry, relax ..." seems to have been the right one. Thanks again, Stuart Crawford Return to table of contents
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