HOMEBREW Digest #4122 Wed 18 December 2002

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  RE: Yeast info Pages ("Scott D. Braker-Abene")
  Gott coolers (Tom Hildenbrand)
  Gott cooler sources ("Rogers, Mike")
  Lifting 5 Gal into Chest Freezer (Victor.E.Franklin)
  will "Shurflo pump" cause HSA ("Tim Martin")
  Reasonably priced Gott Cooler ("Bob Hewitt")
  Food safe acrylic cement (Kevin McDonough)
  RE: Belgian Wit - recipe questions (Jeff Renner)
  OxyClean ("Joe Stump")
  re: WL vs Wyeast (Bill Wible)
  Adding a dial thermometer fitting to kettle ("Parker Dutro")
  Re: Gott Coolers (David Radwin)
  Re: Wit recipe (Renner) (David Towson)
  Electric brewing (Jim deVries)

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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 21:20:55 -0800 (PST) From: "Scott D. Braker-Abene" <skotrat at yahoo.com> Subject: RE: Yeast info Pages All, I have updated the Wyeast profiles to include all the new strains and will move onto adding the White Labs strains over the next week. Thanks to all for getting the fire under my butt to stop slacking and start updating. C'ya! -Scott ===== "The broken seats in empty rows, It all belongs to me you know" - P. Townshend http://www.skotrat.com/skotrat - Skotrats Beer Page http://www.brewrats.org - BrewRats HomeBrew Club Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 07:17:41 -0500 From: Tom Hildenbrand <thil at comcast.net> Subject: Gott coolers Try this. Seems like cheapest around. http://www.dudco.com/Rubbermaid/BeverageDispensers.html Home of the MOON RIVER BREWERY Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 08:03:40 -0500 From: "Rogers, Mike" <mike.rogers at eds.com> Subject: Gott cooler sources Check "All Grain Brewing Systems" at ... http://www.bobbrews.com/zymico.html <http://www.bobbrews.com/zymico.html> or http://www.morebeer.com/ <http://www.morebeer.com/> ==================== Original Message: From: "Nachman, James" <James.Nachman at uscellular.com> Subject: Gott Coolers I am trying to find 5 and 10 gallon Gott coolers, so I can finally have the all grain setup I want, and have been unable to find anyone in town here that carries them or is willing to order them. Any suggestions as to where on the web I can find them?? Thanks, Jim Cedar Rapids, IA ==================== Mike Rogers Cass River Homebrewers Mid-Michigan www.hbd.org/cassriverhomebrewers/ <www.hbd.org/cassriverhomebrewers/> mailto:mike01.rogers at yahoo.com <mailto:mike01.rogers at yahoo.com> Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 07:45:29 -0700 From: Victor.E.Franklin at bankofamerica.com Subject: Lifting 5 Gal into Chest Freezer I have been considering getting a chest freezer to do my fermenting/ laagering in (Phoenix is hot in the summer), but I started thinking; How the heck am I gonna lift 5 gallons of wort into a chest freezer? (bad shoulders). Should I use one of the pumps that has been mentioned in earlier posts? I can't really think of any other way... Victor Franklin Phoenix, AZ Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:14:35 -0500 From: "Tim Martin" <TimMartin at southwest.cc.nc.us> Subject: will "Shurflo pump" cause HSA Hey neighbors, been awhile. I have a Shurflo water pump from my camping trailer that I have been using to move hot water in my brew processes. Can I use this brand to move hot wort? Don't know much about the design and construction. There is only one step let in my brewery that is a pain in the back, literally, and that is lifting eight gallon of hot wort and a 15 gallon keg up off the floor and putting it on the burner. This last batch I also did my first batch sparge. What a major break through, even took my boys fishing during the sparge. Will never go back to on-the-fly method. But when I got back I had to life the heavy sucker up to the burner. Sure would like to use this pump without having to buy another brand. Anybody ever use this one please lemme know. Thanks Tim Martin Cullowhee, NC Buzzards Roost Homebrewery "goes great with roadkill" Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:40:58 -0500 From: "Bob Hewitt" <rthewitt3 at hotmail.com> Subject: Reasonably priced Gott Cooler Jim Nachman, in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, asks about sources for Gott coolers. I found a 10-gallon for $36, free shipping, at http://www.shoplet.com/office/db/gCRUB5379.html Bob Hewitt Cincinnati, Ohio Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:01:35 -0500 From: Kevin McDonough <kmcdonou at nmu.edu> Subject: Food safe acrylic cement My friend's dad built me a nice stainless steel, rectangular mash tun. I want to add a lid and plan to use acrylic as it is cheap and effective. However, I want to add some molded acrylic corner pieces to the underside of the flat lid so it won't move around when setting on top of the mash tun. Does any one know of a cement or glue that will work with acrylic and is FDA approved or food safe? Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 11:05:37 -0500 From: Jeff Renner <jeffrenner at comcast.net> Subject: RE: Belgian Wit - recipe questions Donald Hellen <donhellen at horizonview.net> writes: >Your flaked wheat should be added directly to the mash; no milling is >required. If the oats are pre-gelatinized, they are handled the same >way. > >However, your oats might need to be partly cooked, then added to the >mash. I'm sure others will be able to tell you how to handle them. The rolled oats are pregelatinized the same as the flaked wheat. Same process for each - the steamed grain chunks are run through heated rollers which flattens, gelatinizes and dries them all in one quick pass. Jeff - -- Jeff Renner in Ann Arbor, Michigan USA, JeffRenner at comcast.net "One never knows, do one?" Fats Waller, American Musician, 1904-1943 Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:19:08 -0500 From: "Joe Stump" <joestump at adelphia.net> Subject: OxyClean Does anyone have any information on cleaning carboys and such with OxyClean? Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:35:23 -0500 From: Bill Wible <bill at brewbyyou.net> Subject: re: WL vs Wyeast Hey, Steve. I own a homebrew shop in Phila. I base the comments I made on my shop and my sales. I sell 4 or 5 tubes of White Labs for every tube or pack of Wyeast. I have Smack Packs of Wyeast in my fridge now that are from Oct 2001 and Nov 2001. Nobody buys them. I just had to throw away 14 tubes of Wyeast that were from May of this year - outdated. Now if those were White Labs, I could have sent them back and got credit. I wrote previously about all the programs White Labs offers hat Wyeast doesn't. It does sound like we're in agreement on alot of things. I do not intend to 'badmouth' either yeast company. I do like and appreciate both. I never bothered to learn the White Labs numbers, don't know why, so off the top of my head I don't know what WLP004 is. I only know White Labs tubes by the name. But I worked with Wyeast for so long that I practically have all the Wyeast numbers memorized. I do love 2308 (Munich Lager). It's my favorite lager yeast. I have used 2035 (American Lager Yeast or 'New Ulm'), I think its very bland and boring. I never bothered with 2207 (American Pilsener), its Bud yeast. 2206 (Bavarian Lager) produces a really rich beer. Great for bocks. I've heard of people using it for lighter lager, but I never did. I've had flavor problems with 2124 (Bohemian Lager), too much sulfur, I think. I do like 1056 (American Ale). It is neutral, it's supposed to be. The 1332 (Northwest Ale) might be a better choice for you if you think 1056 is too bland. I use 1332 occasionally, I like it, too. Far as English Ale goes, I like 1275 (Thames Valley) or 1028 (London Ale). Never had luck with 1968 (Special London Ale). They have a new English Cask Bitter, which is numbered 1768. It's supposed to be like 1968, but more flocculent. They also have a new 1068 (I think) which is supposed to be similar to 1028, but a little different. To be honest, I've used White Labs in various recipes, but not nearly s much as I've used Wyeast. I have also done side by side comparisons with the same beer. I made a 10 gallon batch and split it into (2) 5's, fermented half with 1056 and half with California Ale. They were very different beers, and I didn't like the Cali Ale as much as the 1056. I've also done the same thing with the WL Marzen/Octoberfest yeast, again did a 10 gallon Octoberfest recipe and split that into (2) 5's, one with WL OCtoberfest and one with 2308. Again, I like 2308 better. I do use White Labs Burton Ale, which I've had good luck with. And I like their East Coast Ale better than the California Ale. I'm also interested in the Zurich Lager, which is supposed to be SamiClaus Yeast. Haven't used it yet, but I really want to give it a shot. Bill Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 10:05:51 -0800 From: "Parker Dutro" <ezekiel128 at edwardwadsworth.com> Subject: Adding a dial thermometer fitting to kettle I will be adding a weld be gone spigot to one of my kettles soon, and I would like to put a probe thermometer fitting in as well. I have a 6" therm. already, I just need the compression fitting and drill bit which I can get at my local hardware store. My question is does anyone know what material is used to seal the hole around the thermometer? Also, what sort of washer or o-ring will I need to seal the nut up against the inside of the kettle wall? Something that can handle boil temps easily? Thanks a lot. Parker Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 14:33:22 -0800 From: David Radwin <dradwin at sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: Gott Coolers > From: "Nachman, James" <James.Nachman at uscellular.com> > > I am trying to find 5 and 10 gallon Gott coolers, so I can finally have the > all grain setup I want, and have been unable to find anyone in town here > that carries them or is willing to order them. Any suggestions as to where > on the web I can find them?? A good way to search many stores at once is http://shopping.yahoo.com. I found several stores selling what you want. Search for "Rubbermaid 10 gallon". Disclosure: I am tangentially affiliated with Yahoo!, but I'm also a satisfied customer. - -- David Radwin news at removethispart.davidradwin.com Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 20:52:14 -0500 From: David Towson <dtowson at comcast.net> Subject: Re: Wit recipe (Renner) In HBD 4121, Jeff Renner noted: "I make an unsoured witbier with fresh ginger, coriander, cardomom and grains of paradise. No orange peel." I looked-up grains of paradise recently, and found that it is a relative of the ginger family. So I wonder whether including both ginger and g-of-p in the same concoction is like having ginger and ginger. Comments, anybody? Dave in Bel Air, MD Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 22:44:06 -0500 From: Jim deVries <jimdevries at smtp.comcast.net> Subject: Electric brewing I have read a number of postings regarding electric brewing. I already have a RIMS system with a 240 volt, 4500w watt, low density hot water heater element that I run at 120 volts and does the job well. I would like to heat my sparge water and boil my wort electrically as well. I brew 10 gallon batches, which translates to roughly 12 gallons of wort before boil. well My questions are as follows: Do I still need to use a low watt density element for both the sparge water and boiling kettle? Do I still run at 120 volts even though the element is rated at 240 volts for both sparge water and boiling kettle? How many watts is necessary to bring 12 gallons of wort to boil in a reasonable amount of time? Jim deVries Return to table of contents
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