HOMEBREW Digest #4791 Mon 20 June 2005


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Contents:
  Fortnight of Yeast, 2005! ("Rob Moline")
  Re: Bernzomatic Cylinder (Kyle Farrell)
  Re: Compact C02 cylinder ("Michael O'Donnell")
  Re: Wet Hopping? (Denny Conn)
  Re: Bernzomatic cylinder - Portable CO2 ("Richard S Sloan")
  Re: Bernzomatic cylinder - Portable CO2 ("Spencer W. Thomas")
  Talk Of Iowa-Beer Show-With Ken Wells ("Rob Moline")

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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 23:13:22 -0500 From: "Rob Moline" <jethrogump at mchsi.com> Subject: Fortnight of Yeast, 2005! Fortnight of Yeast, 2005! Lallemand is pleased to announce a Fortnight of Yeast, 2005, commencing July 10, 2005, on the Homebrew Digest. Expertise this year is provided by Dr. Clayton Cone, Dr. Tobias Fischborn, Dr. Forbes Waldrop, & Keith Lemcke. Standards to be followed..... 1. Questions submitted to post at hbd.org , July 10, 2005 through July 24th, 2005 and submitted with "Fortnight Of Yeast, 2005" in the subject line, with or without further subject heading, will be answered. 2. Questions shall be accepted for response via HBD, with any follow-up past the ending date at the sole discretion of the FOY, 2005 respondents. 3. Reprinting of the Questions and Answers may be published by Lallemand/HBD and Dr.'s Cone/Fischborn/Waldrop/Lemcke, at their discretion, in any media. Attribution of name is granted by the questioner, without further publication of any e-mail addresses. Please join Dr. Clayton Cone, Dr. Tobias Fischborn, Dr. Forbes Waldrop, & Keith (Bignose) Lemcke for a FORTNIGHT OF YEAST, 2005 on the Homebrew Digest July 10, 2005. Cheers! Rob Moline Lallemand "The More I Know About Beer, The More I Realize I Need To Know More About Beer!" - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 6/17/2005 Return to table of contents
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2005 23:07:05 -0700 From: Kyle Farrell <kaf at nwlink.com> Subject: Re: Bernzomatic Cylinder While on the topic of Benzomatic cylinders, anyone know how / where one can dispose of them? Does anybody take them for recycling? I've got about a half dozen empties sitting around. -Kyle Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 06:50:38 -0700 From: "Michael O'Donnell" <mooseo at stanford.edu> Subject: Re: Compact C02 cylinder Steve recommends using paintball cylinders for portable CO2. I've been eying these for a while, but haven't worked out the regulator yet. They use the same sort of automatic shut-off valve that propane cylinders use. Most of the regulators on paintguns are delivering gas in the 100-300 psi range and aren't adjustable. I have found one adjustable reg made by a specialty paintball company, but it is ~$125 (http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/online-catalog/stabilizer.htm)... I could buy a lot of disposable cartridges for that. Have any of your club members come up with an inexpensive way to regulate the pressure out of these little cylinders? cheers, mike Monterey, CA Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 08:20:54 -0800 From: Denny Conn <denny at projectoneaudio.com> Subject: Re: Wet Hopping? You bet, Jodie! It's one of the main activities at Hop Madness (www.hopmadness.com), a festival held yearly in the hop growing regions of the Willamette Valley. Piles of hops right out of the field are piled up for the attendees to use. I've seen a 5 gal. batch of beer in a 15 gal. kettle full to the brim with hops that were picked an hour before. ---------------->Denny At 11:50 PM 6/19/05 -0400, you wrote: >There's mention of "wet hopping" in the March/April 2005 Zymurgy, page >36, that I found intriguing. It appears to mean using hops off the vine, >not dried, in the kettle. Has anyone tried this? > >Jodie Davis Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:25:26 -0700 From: "Richard S Sloan" <richard.s.sloan at us.hsbc.com> Subject: Re: Bernzomatic cylinder - Portable CO2 If you are looking for a portable way of dispensing beer, get yourself one of these - http://www.morebeer.com/product.html?product_id=18301 It fits in your pocket and works like a champ. Richard Sloan XXL Brewing Co., San Diego, CA "One size does not fit all" - ----------------------------------------- *********************************************************************** This E-mail is confidential. It may also be legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you may not copy, forward, disclose or use any part of it. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and all copies from your system and notify the sender immediately by return E-mail. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be timely, secure, error or virus-free. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions. *********************************************************************** Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:35:58 -0400 From: "Spencer W. Thomas" <hbd at spencerwthomas.com> Subject: Re: Bernzomatic cylinder - Portable CO2 Richard Sloan writes: >If you are looking for a portable way of dispensing beer, get yourself one >of these - http://www.morebeer.com/product.html?product_id=18301 >It fits in your pocket and works like a champ. > From your last sentence, I assume that you have one. I'd be interested in hearing more about your experience with it. The catalog claims that it takes 2 - 5 cartridges (12g) to dispense 5 gallons of beer. At atmospheric pressure, a liter of CO2 masses 2g. At 15lbs, a liter of CO2 is 4g. So each cartridge will push out somewhere between 3 and 6 liters of beer, depending on the dispensing pressure. A keg holds 19 liters, so by my calculation, it will take 3-6 cartridges to blow the keg. Might be worth it for the occasional "traveling keg" situation. It also appears that you don't get any control over the pressure -- it just shoots the contents of the cartridge into the keg? =S Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 17:01:36 -0500 From: "Rob Moline" <jethrogump at mchsi.com> Subject: Talk Of Iowa-Beer Show-With Ken Wells Talk Of Iowa-Beer Show-With Ken Wells Folks, The WOI/WSUI Radio Semi-Annual Beer Show on "Talk Of Iowa," hosted by Katherine Perkins, will be coming to you on the 22nd of June, 2005, from 9:00 AM CST, until 10:00 AM CST, on 640 AM radio and 910 AM radio regionally in the Midwest, and via webcast. Do beer-yeast rustlers really exist? Who patented the Beer Goddess? How can you tell a Beer Geek from a Beer Nazi? And where exactly is Beervana? Does Big Beer hate Little Beer? This semi-annual Beer Show will feature Ken Wells, a novelist, Pulitzer-Prize finalist and longtime Wall Street Journal writer, who answers these questions and more by bringing a keen eye and prodigious reportage to the people and passions that have propelled beer into America's favorite alcoholic beverage and the beer industry into a 75 commercial billion juggernaut, not to mention a potent force in American culture. Ken Wells' latest book, "Travels with Barley" is a lively, literate tour through the precincts of the beer makers, sellers, drinkers, and thinkers who collectively drive the mighty River of Beer onward. His beer articles in the Wall Street Journal are, IMHO, the best ever published in a national newspaper....and can be accessed, with minimal cost at www.wsj.com Please join Katherine Perkins and author Ken Wells for "Talk Of Iowa," 6.22.05 at 9 am, CST. Web listeners can go to www.woi.org and click on the green audio streams link, then the AM Radio link..... ....or http://wsui.uiowa.edu/talk_of_iowa.htm and click on Listen to WSUI.... "Talk Of Iowa," is underwritten by Lallemand and Court Avenue Brewing Company. Cheers! Rob Moline Lallemand CABCO "The More I Know About Beer, The More I Realize I Need To Know More About Beer!" - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.9/23 - Release Date: 6/20/2005 Return to table of contents
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