HOMEBREW Digest #4821 Wed 10 August 2005


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Contents:
  Re: Homebrew Digest Request (August 10, 2005) ("Greg 'groggy' Lehey")
  Easement Credit Repository  5b1.d ("Conner Ricky")
  Re: Decoction Mash:  Tools and Techniques? (stencil) (Paul Waters)
  Sensory Deprevation Kit ("Fred Kingston")
  RE : Czech Ale (Steven Parfitt)
  Reuse of bottles from bottle bomb batch? ("Brian Schar")
  Re: Czech Ales (Matthew Beck)
  Making Hop Plugs - To Dry or Not? (mrmike656)
  FOAM Cup Homebrew Competition Tulsa, OK (philosophersstone)

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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 14:00:25 +0930 From: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" <grog at lemis.com> Subject: Re: Homebrew Digest Request (August 10, 2005) On Wednesday, 10 August 2005 at 0:23:45 -0400, AutomagicalMailResponder wrote: > Your article sent to homebrew is being rejected. The reason: > --Contains line(s) greater than 80 chars in length -- > > On Wednesday, 10 August 2005 at 0:17:15 -0400, AutomagicalMailResponderwrote: > >> Your article sent to homebrew is being rejected. The reason: >> >> -- Article submitted as a multipart. We cannot handle this. -- > > *sigh* > >> You wrote: >> >> On Monday, 8 August 2005 at 11:53:45 -0400, stencil wrote: >>> I'm determined to run some decoction mashes this Fall, but I've >>> reached an age when I have made so many mistakes that I'm afraid >>> of using up my dwindling allotment, and thought it best to click >>> on the 'discretion' button and select 'ask advice' from the >>> dropdown. >> >> Denny Conn will probably have some input on this. I know he's >> currently working on publishing the results of his Great Decoction >> Experiment, though that won't directly relate to your questions. >> You should read the results, though, in particular to decide >> whether you really want to decoct or not. My own results are at >> http://www.lemis.com/grog/brewing/decoction.html, but you'll >> probably find Denny's summary more useful. >> >>> How do *you* perform a decoction? How many vessels do you use, >>> and what are their sizes? >> >> Two vessels. They're both aluminium pots. The larger one is the >> pot I normally use for (multistep infusion) mashing, and is about >> 16 litres in size (3.6 or 4.2 gallons). The other one is the one I >> use for the decoctions, and it's about half the size. >> >>> How do you heat them, >> >> Gas. >> >>> and how are they deployed on your work surface or surfaces? >> >> Not sure I understand this question, but hopefully the other answers >> will clarify. >> >>> What utensils do you use to move the decoction from the main mash >>> and back again, and what are their sizes and shapes? >> >> I use a small saucepan to scoop out of the big pot into the small one. >> I pour back directly from the small pot into the big one. >> >>> How do you measure the volume or mass of the decoction, and gauge >>> its consistency? >> >> I put the small pot on scales and weigh out the amount I need. I >> haven't had too much of an issue with consistency; I just take what >> looks like an average of the existing mash. This is an area where >> people differ in opinion, though. >> >>> What tools do you use to stir the main mash, and to stir the >>> decoction, and how do you handle them? >> >> I use a kitchen spatula (egg slice) for both. Greg - -- Finger grog at lemis.com for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. Return to table of contents
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 08:40:41 -0400 From: "Conner Ricky" <roxannee at homeoweb.net> Subject: Easement Credit Repository 5b1.d Make the American dream actually happen for you and your family. Imagine owning a beautiful 3,4,5 bedroom hoome in your area, starting from $37,792 and with ^NO^MONEY^DOWN^! We invite you to search these listings right now and for FREE! F+ree Listings Here! http://autonomic.card.ledloan.com/?name=3Dcger <1429325916845798> abrupt clinton hideaway peterson leapt poncho continuation deadwood condes= cend shuddery karl bobby latter=20 amend bundy burdensome tote sleep intrepid adelaide masque hemlock atrophy= =20 857765256872912z Return to table of contents
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 06:52:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Waters <pwaters3 at yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Decoction Mash: Tools and Techniques? (stencil) This is the 1st time I have posted i hope this works. http://www.stpats.com/grainins.htm This is the resource I used for the 1st deccoction that I did. and it went well. The only issue I didnt take into account was the heat loss in the mashtun with the reduced volume left in the mashtun, so my final temp was about 5'F degree low St. Pats no longer does beer stuff but the info they have on thier site is excellent. I also found it useful to use a digital thermometer that has a remote probe for the rest stages. I have found them at Target and Walmart in the kitchen tools area for around $10-$15 It does take a large pot, I used my 1st boil pot that came with my 1st brew kit, a 5gal SS pot. Dont stop stirring and watch your flame intensity Paul Mad Cow Brewing Return to table of contents
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 09:58:50 -0400 From: "Fred Kingston" <Fred at kingstonco.com> Subject: Sensory Deprevation Kit I've been charged by my local club to find one of those "make your beer taste bad so you know what you did wrong" kits... Any pointers links etc to folks that might have them available??? Fred Kingston fred at kingstonco.com AKCCorp.com skype: fredkingston Return to table of contents
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 07:06:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Steven Parfitt <thegimp98 at yahoo.com> Subject: RE : Czech Ale Bob Tower is searching for info on Czech Ale >Does anyone have any information on indigenous Czech >ales? Presumably there were many prior to 1842. A >search on HBD for "Czech Ale" and "Bohemian Ale" >revealed nothing. The same searches on Google turned >up quite a number of hits but once I began following >them they all led to lagers. The only Czech Ale I have heard of is Rebel Garnet: http://www.alcoholreviews.com/BEERS/rebelgarnet.html However it is not mentioned on the Rebel web page. http://rebelbeer.com/ Good luck. Steven Return to table of contents
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 08:23:26 -0700 From: "Brian Schar" <schar at cardica.com> Subject: Reuse of bottles from bottle bomb batch? For the first time in 10+ years of brewing, I made bottle bombs. I brewed 10 gallons of wort, then fermented 5 gallons in one fermenter with Wyeast saison yeast and 5 gallons in a different fermenter with White Labs saison yeast. The Wyeast had a lower FG of 1.009, as compared to the FG of 1.015 for the White Labs, but it was the Wyeast batch that blew up a couple of bottles. Given the clear demarcation between tasty, non-exploding beer from the first fermenter and dangerous, exploding beer from the second fermenter, I trace the problem back to bad sanitation in my yeast starter or in the second fermenter. My bad. Only two bottles exploded. I mentioned to my wife that I thought one might have blown up, due to a beery aroma in my closet, and to put an exclamation point on my sentence, the second one exploded as we were talking. That part was kind of funny. I only had 12 of the bad saison left, so I carefully wrapped each one in a thick towel, took it to the kitchen, and popped the cap in the sink. I was left with 12 empty, safe bottles. My question is whether those bottles are safe to reuse, or if they have been stressed to the point where I should just throw them out. I'm not familiar with the yield curve of glass, and frankly it's been so long since I did any actual stress analysis I thought I'd just put this out to the group. Any thoughts? Brian Schar Menlo Park, California Return to table of contents
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 10:12:44 -0700 From: Matthew Beck <mcbeck at gmail.com> Subject: Re: Czech Ales Bob, At the risk of creating a shameless promotion, I do carry a kit for a czech-style ale at my HBS. It can be found at http://www.becksbrews.com/servlet/Detail?no=148 and may/may not help in your search for a Czech Ale. The recipe was formulated by a former employee (retired) who has left about a dozen popular recipes on my shelves. I don't know his research methods, but I will try to find out more from him. All kit ingredients are listed on the site, so czech it out to see if it conforms to what you expected. Hope that helps! Beck becksbrews.com Return to table of contents
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 13:25:32 -0400 From: mrmike656 at aol.com Subject: Making Hop Plugs - To Dry or Not? I've been using my own homegrown Cascades for years now. I used to dry them with a dehydrator, vacuum seal them, then freeze them. Then I started making plugs from the dried hops. I fill a cigar mold (I think it's a double corona size...) with the dried cones and tamp it down with an appropriate size dowel. After an hour or two, the oils have stuck the compressed cones into a plug. Once vacuum sealed, they've kept well even after two years. At the recent AHA Homebrewers Convention in Baltimore, I spoke with someone from American Hop Plugs, who are making hop plugs from American hops in North Carolina. He said that they don't dry the hops - they ship them right from the growers, put them in a press and plug 'em fresh. Well, this years' crop is looking big and ripe. I'm considering not drying - just pickin', plugging, sealing, and freezing. Since dried hops are much lighter than non-dried hops, how should I adjust recipes? Would it logically follow that an ounce of dried, compressed hops would be more concentrated since there are more cones per ounce? Mike Maimone Return to table of contents
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 13:18:38 -0500 From: philosophersstone at GBRonline.com Subject: FOAM Cup Homebrew Competition Tulsa, OK The Fellowship of Oklahoma Ale Makers (FOAM) invite you to enter FOAM Cup 2005, our 7th annual homebrew competition. We will accept your entries between August 26 and September 2, 2005. Judging for FOAM Cup 2005 is scheduled for September 9 and 10 in Tulsa, Oklahoma. FOAM Cup is an AHA/BJCP sanctioned competition. We will be using the 2004 BJCP Style Guidelines and will judge all BJCP categories for beer and mead (Categories 1-26). We will not judge any ciders or perries (BJCP Categories 27 or 28), but we will drink them if you send them. We ran a well-attended BJCP study course this year, to improve our judging skills and to increase the number of certified judges in the club. And we have lined up several great sponsors and prizes. All category and BOS winners (1st-3rd) will receive our very popular FOAM Cup medallions, plus other goodies. Check the web site for all of the details. Individual and club points earned at FOAM Cup will count toward the 2005 High Plains Brewer-of-the-Year and Club-of-the-Year awards. FOAM is offering on-line registration for the first time this year. You will pay only $6 per entry when you register on line, $7 per entry if you do not. All brewers with 5 or more entries will pay only $5 per entry, regardless of how you register. We require two (2) bottles per entry. Whether you want to register on line or download the entry forms, please go to the FOAM web site at www.alemakers.com. Click on the FOAM Cup link and follow the directions from there. Once again, the fantastic folks at the Mecca Coffee Company have agreed to accept your FOAM Cup entries. Ship or deliver your entries to: FOAM Cup 2005 c/o Mecca Coffee Company 1143 E. 33rd Place Tulsa, OK 74105 Telephone: (918) 749-3509 The entry window opens Friday August 26, and closes one week later at 6:00 p.m. CDT on Friday September 2. We will judge all entries September 9 and 10. Persons wishing to judge or steward should contact Organizer Jeff Pursley at philosopher at alemakers.com. To get all of the details, download the official rules and forms using the FOAM Cup link on the FOAM web site, www.alemakers.com. Jeff Pursley, Organizer FOAM Cup 2005 Return to table of contents
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