HOMEBREW Digest #4996 Wed 19 April 2006

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  Bicarbonate ("A.J deLange")
  Amylase continues working? (Petr Otahal)
  Cereal Mash ("steve.alexander")
  Water in refrigerator (Glyn)
  Flour beer? ("Gary Smith")
  Gluten Free Beer (fredscheer)
  AHA Rally @ Brooklyn  Brewery - April 22 ("Kathryn Porter")

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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:24:36 +0000 From: "A.J deLange" <ajdel at cox.net> Subject: Bicarbonate Bicarbonate at 174 ppm is about 3 milliequivalents per liter (whether the numbe be "as bicarbonate" or "as calcium carbonate). As a general rule of thumb the decarbonation methods brewers use will drop that to about 1 mEq/L or 61 ppm as bicarbonate or 50 ppm as CaCO3. You don't actually have to boil the water but rather just get it close to boiling provided you aerate it to sweep the carbon dioxide out. Boiling is OK, of course. The steam then sparges the CO2 but it takes longer and uses more heat. You can assist the precipitation by adding calcium sulfate (gypsum) and a wee bit of chalk (to serve as nucelation sites) which you would want to do anyway as pale ales are traditionally brewed with gypseous waters. FWIW I have collected 6 profiles for Burton water from various sources. Each of them lists bicarbonate at appreciably more than 174 ppm but all but one indicates negative residual alkalinity because of the hardness of the water. You can see where they fall on the diagram at http://www.pbase.com/agamid/image/57446374. They are all over to the right (hard water part of the diagram) and below the heavy line (negative RA) except for the one. Thus, as long as your water is as hard as Burton's (by gypsum addition) you should not have to worry about this level of alkalinity. In fact the beer will be more authentic if you don't. A.J. Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 11:49:28 +1000 From: Petr Otahal <petr.otahal at aardvark.net.au> Subject: Amylase continues working? Hi Folks, I realise this is a little off topic for the forum but please bear with me. I have been brewing whiskey wash for a small distillery and have noticed that I am getting really high attenuation. Last batch was 14P (1.056) starting gravity and finished at 0.5P (1.002), giving me a whopping 96%AA after 3days fermentation. Now I am not using any special yeast or other ingredients, and I know there is some lacto activity since the beer tastes slight sour (the wort is not boiled), but I fail to see how the attenuation can be so high. So my question is do amylases continue working if they are not denatured by boiling? I'm guessing that the Beta-amylase would be mostly gone due to the long mash rest, even though the mash temperatures are fairly low. Cheers Petr Otahal - -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.3.5/302 - Release Date: 5/04/06 Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:51:02 -0400 From: "steve.alexander" <-s at adelphia.net> Subject: Cereal Mash I am a-maized no one has pulled the plug on this yet. You do NOT need to boil raw grains, you merely need to crush and get the mash above the raw grain gelatinization temp (which varies from grain to grain). The extraction of starch from raw grains is slower than from raw grains. Like in malt decoction boiling improves the extraction, but not radically. I agree that a separate cereal mash with a small amount (~10%) malt used is very useful. The malt contains a lot of alpha-amylase so that the amylopectin released does not retrograde. This separate step mash also allows more time for extraction of starch from the raw grain. I don't see any strong reason to avoid boiling(decocting) the cereal mash, but it is not necessary and not used in commercial systems where the energy cost is accounted for. - -- I can't recall the details anymore, but various forms of oats are made in with varying degrees of heat treatment and varying particle size. I believe the original "quaker oats" are whole grains rolled flat on a hot metal drum, whereas "1-minute" and "quick" varieties are cut into smaller pieces. Torrified grains are heated with steam, perhaps under pressure to the extent that gelatinization and some beta-glucans degradation appears ... or so it is claimed ... then often rolled flat. Aside from the extent of mashing required it doesn't make much difference whether you brew with steel-cut, 1-minute or other oats. I suspect that the oat variety is of greater importance than the form. -Steve Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:15:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Glyn <graininfuser at yahoo.com> Subject: Water in refrigerator There is water in the bottom of the beer refrigerator!!! What are the most likely causes and remedies? Before I spend money on taps I want this water gone. I'm thinking there is just a plugged drain somewhere. Thanks, Glyn in S. middle TN Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 23:59:19 -0500 From: "Gary Smith" <Gary at doctorgary.net> Subject: Flour beer? While waltzin' through Costco I passed by their huge bags of flour & I couldn't help but wonder if anyone's ever tried (with success) making beer from flour. Seems like the addition of some 6 row for enzymes might do the conversion but how to deal with the inevitable sludge? Husks? I sure wouldn't run it in my rims, that would be a nasty mess to clean afterwards. I'm not thinking high quality brew but just wondering what might be possible. Gary Return to table of contents
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:16:31 -0400 From: fredscheer at aol.com Subject: Gluten Free Beer I know it is a bit late in responding to the subject, but I just returned from a trip. First, Gluten is a protein, and has the following amounts: in Wheat (is called Gliadins) +/- 25 g/Kg); in Wheat malt (34 g/Kg) and in Barley, called Hordeins (20 g/Kg); Barley malt (25 G/kG), RYE (is called SECALINE) 20 G/kG., and OATS (IS CALLED AVIDINS (15 G/kG). What are the results in a human body to Gluten intolerance? -Changes to the lining of the upper part of intestine; leaky Gut; Diarrhea; headaches; Anemia; Ulcers. Now, there are several brewing methods for Gluten free beer. 1. Brewing with Sorghum and 2. Malting with Cereals. In both methods we are running into problems with less amino acids as required (we need enzymes and extra nitrogen in the process) and the buffer capacity is very low, we have to add calcium. Also, it is important to note that Gluten free beer is brewed without Aroma hops, as the pseudo-cereal have enough aroma (example: Sorghum). Fred Scheer Return to table of contents
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 11:58:12 -0600 From: "Kathryn Porter" <kathryn at brewersassociation.org> Subject: AHA Rally at Brooklyn Brewery - April 22 East Coast Brewers - RSVP NOW for the Brooklyn Brewery AHA Rally this weekend at the Brooklyn Brewery. Saturday, April 22 is your chance to meet Garrett Oliver and Steve Hindy from Brooklyn Brewery. There will be a raffle, brewery tour, and 8 beers on tap! Don't miss your chance to taste some of the finest award-winning beers New York has to offer and mingle with other brewers and beer enthusiasts. Entrance to the Rally is FREE for all AHA members. All attendees become a member of the American Homebrewers Association. Membership discounts are offered at the door. Please RSVP: http://www.beertown.org/events/rally/rsvp.aspx More Info: http://www.beertown.org/email/aha/membership_drive/brooklyn.html Saturday - April 22, 2006 Time: 7:00 pm - 10:00 pm Brooklyn Brewery #1 Brewers Row 79 North 11th Street Brooklyn, NY 11211 Tel: (718) 486-7422 Cheers, Kathryn Return to table of contents
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