HOMEBREW Digest #5382 Tue 29 July 2008

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  Cloning Saison Dupont ("Josh Knarr")
  Lead in glass carboys... (drsmith)
  Lead in Carboys ("Amos Brooks")
  The cost of brewing ("LANCE HARBISON")

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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:00:47 -0400 From: "Josh Knarr" <josh.knarr at gmail.com> Subject: Cloning Saison Dupont All, I have discovered the wonders of farmhouse funk. I really enjoyed the Saison Dupont, the one in Clone Brews is lacking in the funk category. I said, "Man, this would do really well as a pumpkin beer". It's only been recently that PA seems to have relaxed it's beer and liquor laws and we're starting to get individual sixpacks and bottles of high end stuff sold in grocery stores. (Troegs was still under "imports" in Drexel Hill's Fresh Grocer, I left the manager a note). Question - How do I clone the yeast? I understand it's yeast + some brett, is it sufficient to use two tablespoons of table sugar and refill the bottle with water? Thanks Josh Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:44:35 -0400 From: drsmith <hbd at aperature.org> Subject: Lead in glass carboys... > Not so fast ! There were tests reported a number of years ago in > Wine Spectator magazine and the acid in wine will extract a > considerable amount of lead from a "lead glass" decanter. They > suggest - and I agree that you should never use lead glass for food > or beverage. I have a lead test kit from a hardware store laying around here somewhere. If I can find it, I'll see about testing the external side of a 3 gallon glass carboy I have and report back. Since lead in the presence of an acid seems to be of interest, I'll test it twice - once with the dry glass and once with a surface that's been exposed to white vinegar for a period of time. I'm also sure that all of my glass carboys came from Mexico - I've never seen one around here that was marked as coming from any other country. - --Darrin Rochester, NY Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:44:37 -0400 From: "Amos Brooks" <amosbrooks at gmail.com> Subject: Lead in Carboys Hi, I agree there is a concern here. If there is a possibility of a lead contamination, why would you use it. How much do we spend on sanitizers and water treatments just to make sure there is no possibility of a contamination? Should we not do the same for rather dangerous chemical contaminants in our equipment. It's really a no brainer as I see it. It is unlikely that you will get enough lead into solution to test by testing a solvent in the carboy for a few minutes. There are some off the shelf test kits that you could try. Many are simple swab tests. Not having used them I can't really avouch for how well they work, but I'd be interested in trying it to see. Check out the link for a description of the type of product I'm describing. www. amazon. com/gp/product/B000E3DX0C/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top BTW: I inserted a space after www and before the com in that link because I have been the victim of the overzealous html bouncing on this list... not wanting overly formatted messages is one thing, but this is ridiculous! Amos Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:31:25 -0500 From: "LANCE HARBISON" <harbison65 at verizon.net> Subject: The cost of brewing I was rather shocked that Dave Larsen does not find homebrewing economical. I was in his backyard of Tucson in May. I went to a bottle shop and a 6-pack of Stone (as well as everything else there) cost $10. Holy crap! My last batch of 20 gallons cost me about $100. Now granted, I built all of my equipment except for a Chillzilla and my second grain mill, so my 6-pack cost of $3.12 seems very reasonable to me. Lance Harbison Pittsburgh Return to table of contents
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