HOMEBREW Digest #5842 Fri 27 May 2011

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  RE: Weld less Fittings ("Keith Christian")
  RE: Weldless fittings and cleaning (Calvin Perilloux)

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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 04:39:56 -0700 From: "Keith Christian" <keithchristian at roadrunner.com> Subject: RE: Weld less Fittings Hi John, I am not dead set on using SS fittings. I have brass ball valves and nipples else where in my brewing setup. Thanks for the links... I understand the difference between cleaning and sanitizing. The problem is that I have never used PBW or Antillean. I have used Bar Keepers Friend a week before brewing and then I would use Starsan to sanitize. I had heard that Bar Keepers Friend removed a protective layer and it needed to oxidize before being used. Since I had not used PBW and I did not see anything on the label about letting the equipment set for a few days before use, I thought I would ask if it was necessary. BTW, Santiclean was much easier to use than Starsan. I would always boil a couple cups of water to pour into the carboy or keg to help get the bubbles left behind. Is Santiclean a good sanitizer? Or is it more of a wash to follow up with after PBW? Thanks for the reply. Keith - -----Original Message----- From: John W. Zeller [mailto:jwzell at cincic.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 8:58 PM To: keithchristian at roadrunner.com Subject: Weldless Fittings Hi Keith, Yes, you can use weldless fittings on your kettle. Look here for kits: http://www.northernbrewer.com/brewing/brewing-equipment/pumps-and-plumbing/w eldless-valve-kits You could also get just the bulkhead fitting and buy the valve locally. I would go with the bronze valve and same some money. There is nothing wrong with using bronze or brass. I use it a lot. You can piece together your own weldless bulkhead fitting, but all said and done it won't be a lot cheaper. I have the McMaster-Carr part numbers if you want to order the individual parts. Except for the brass valve, the other parts are ususally hard to find locally. Home Depot or Lowe's won't have most of the stuff like SS washers the correct size and silicone o-rings. Don't confuse cleaning with sanitizing. You only really need to sanitize equipment that will contact your beer after the boil. Pre-boil, just make sure it's clean as you would any other cookware. PBW is a good product, but it's also on the expensive side. Bar Keeper's Friend works very well for cleaning kettles etc. I use Oxiclean for fermenters, hoses, corny kegs, hoses, funnels etc. I use Star San for santizing the fermenters and other post boil equipment. Star San is economical and safe to use. It is very harmless stuff and an effective sanitizer. A small bottle will last you all year. Hope this is of some help and good luck with your brewing. Please ask more questions. The forum needs more action. Any kind of action at all would do. :-[ -john zeller cincinnati, ohio Return to table of contents
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 11:30:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Calvin Perilloux <calvinperilloux at yahoo.com> Subject: RE: Weldless fittings and cleaning Hi Keith, Regarding the keg cleaning routine you ask about, PBW followed by Saniclean should work fine. You can clean with PBW anytime, but to sanitise with Saniclean, it is usually best done right before use. Question: You mention that you want 1/2" fittings on the inside and outside of a keg -- do you mean as a keg that will be converted to a kettle, or a keg that is still in use for pressure dispense? If it's still being used as a pressure vessel, weldless is not a good way to go unless you are talking about real ale that stays chilled and NEVER goes above VERY VERY modest pressures. Even welded fittings could to some extent reduce the maximum pressure capacity of a keg, depending on where you actually place the fittings. Calvin Perilloux Middletown, Maryland, USA Return to table of contents
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