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Topics How do I SUBSCRIBE to the Home Brew Digest? How do I UNSUBSCRIBE from the Home Brew Digest? Is there any other way to receive the Digest besides email? How do I post to the HBD? How do I set up Outlook, Outlook Express or Netscape Communicator to comply with the HBD Format requirements? How do I set up Yahoo, Hotmail, Excite, gmail or AOL to comply with the HBD Format requirements? Are there any rules to be followed in posting to the Digest? When does the Digest publish? How big is each Digest? Hey! The HBD sent me a Virus/Trojan/SPAM!!! Ack! My signature keeps disappearing from my posts! Nyagh! The server chomped a line from my post! (And barely missed my finger...) Hey! What's this "Rennerian" stuff I hear about on the hbd? Why are my messages being rejected for line length? Why are my messages being rejected for non-ASCII characters? Why do you restrict line length, character sets, etc? Why am I getting one file instead of all the individual posts? I've tried and tried and tried to unsubscribe, but I still keep getting the @#$%ing Digest! I've tried and tried and tried to subscribe, but I'm still not getting the @#$%ing Digest! Hey! I stopped recieving the Digest, but I didn't unsubscribe! What gives? Doh! I'm receiving TWO copies of the Digest! HELP! Hey! Why is my mail into the Digest being rejected?! Ok, so what if I want ALL the Digests? And what of Copyright? Is the Digest Copyrighted? Where can I make suggestions? I noticed a bunch of "sponsored" clubs whose web sites seem to be housed on the HBD server. What's up with that?! And what about those OTHER sites I see housed on the server? Huh? What's up there? Who are "The Janitors", and why should I like them? Waaaa! I emailed the Janitors, but never got a reply! Surgeon General's Warning Does the HBD have a snail-mail address? How about a phone number? Where can I make demands? How do I SUBSCRIBE to the Home Brew Digest?
Send the word "subscribe" in an email note to req@hbd.org. This note MUST come from the address you wish to have subscribed to the Digest. This note should contain no other text as words like "unsubscribe", "problem", "question", "human", etc take precedence over the word "subscribe", and will cause your subscription attempt to fail. All other text in the body of the note is ignored . Note that the requirement that your subscribe request come from the address you wish to subscribe precludes you from being able to enter a subscription to the list for someone else. Only the "From:" address is used in determining what address should be entered into the mailing list. Back to the top... How do I UNSUBSCRIBE from the Home Brew Digest?
Send the word "unsubscribe" in an email note to req@hbd.org. This note MUST come from the address you have subscribed to the Digest. This note should contain no other text as words like "problem", "question", "human", etc take precedence over the word "unsubscribe", and will cause your removal attempt to fail. All other text in the body of the note is ignored. Note that the requirement that your unsubscribe request come from the address subscribed precludes you from being able to remove another address from the list for someone else. Only the "From:" address is used in determining what address should be removed from the mailing list, and that address must MATCH the address in the list to be removed. (See "I've tried and tried and tried to unsubscribe, but I still keep getting the @#$%ing Digest!" below if you're having trouble unsubscribing..) Back to the top... Is there any other way to receive the Digest besides email?
Back to the top... How do I post to the HBD?
You post to the HBD in the same manner you converse with your friends! Simply send your post to post@hbd.org. There're a few other things you need to do, too:
- Your post should use only the US or WESTERN ASCII character set
- Your post should not incorporate HTML or MIME encoding
- Your post should have a line length (each individual line) of no more than 80 characters
- Your post should have an "informative" subject- repeating the subject line of the last Digest, a subject like "RE: Your Mail" or an empty subject line are examples of non-informative subject lines
- Your post should not contain a signature that start with a line, such as "___________________" - due to some of the free mail ISPs not being able to contain their exuberance and line lengths, we've had to set up the Digest automation to wipe those signatures out
Back to the top... How do I set up Outlook, Outlook Express or Netscape Communicator to comply with the HBD Format requirements?
C for Outlook 2000, 2003 and Outlook XP setup tips C for Outlook/Outlook Express 5.0 setup tips C for Netscape Communicator setup tipslick herelick herelick here Back to the top... How do I set up Yahoo, Hotmail, Excite, gmail or AOL to comply with the HBD Format requirements?
Yahoo now has two versions in its mail system. These instructions refer to the "Classic" interface, running under Microsoft Explorer.
- Click "Options" in the upper right hand corner of the window.
- Under "Management", click "General Preferences".
- Under "Composing E-mails", make sure "Mode" is set to "Compose messages as plain text"
- Under "Message Actions", make sure "Forwarding Messages" is set to "Forward as inline text
- Click the "Save" button
It appears you cannot set your line lengths. You will have to manually hit your "Enter" key at the end of the line - the Digest currently accepts any line length less than 80 characters.
Hotmail doesn't have a general options area, either. If the top of your message editing window displays Microsoft Word-like menu icons, you have the Rich Text editor active, and are sending mail in multi-part MIME, HTML format. On the Hotmail "Compose" screen, click the words "Show plain text" to set your mailer to plain text mode. As with Yahoo!, you cannot control the line lengths. Hit your "Enter" key after each 80 character (or less) line.
Excite requires that you click "Switch To Plain Version" right above the pictures of a chain, smiley face, papers and speaker. Then, when the screen changes to their "plain" editor, click the radio button associated with "Plain Text", to the right of "Send email as:". It appears that the "Switch To Plain Version" pico is "sticky" - it'll be that way each time you select "compose messages" on your machine. You will have to select the "Plain Text" radio button each time, though. No update available as Excite is currently rejecting my browser.
Gmail looks a lot like Hotmail. It doesn't have a general options area, either. If the top of your message editing window displays Microsoft Word-like menu icons, you have the Rich Text editor active, and are sending mail in multi-part MIME, HTML format. On the gmail "Compose" screen, click the words "<< Plain text" to set your mailer to plain text mode. As with Yahoo! and Hotmail, you cannot control the line lengths. Hit your "Enter" key after each 80 character (or less) line.
Unfortunately (for their users), AOL still insists on their "my way or the highway" attitude and do not allow customization of mail settings with respect to outgoing mail format. If you wish to post to the HBD, you must take the second of their available options (the highway) and subscribe with another ISP for email service. (HINT: even an AOL user can have a Yahoo, Hotmail or Excite account...)
Back to the top... Are there any rules to be followed in posting to the Digest?
Of course there are! When you subscribed, they were provided in your Welcome statement. If it was a l-o-n-g time since you subscribed (prior to about February '97), you may not have seen the current policies. They are provided here in HTML form for your viewing pleasure. Back to the top... When does the Digest publish?
The Digest publishes once daily - assuming there are articles to publish. To moderate the length of the queue, we usually turn off Sunday delivery, and rarely turn off Saturday. (Having more than a day's worth of articles in the queue assist in preventing SPAM from reaching your daily dose of Digest.) Sometimes, like over long holidays and over the summer, there are days in which the Digest doesn't publish. If the Digest misses a day or two, have a coffee and chill. If the Digest misses a week, panic. If the Digest misses a whole LOT of weeks, call EMS. The Janitors have died... Back to the top... How big is each Digest?
Correct me if I'm wrong, Karl, but the Digest publishes at 50K or less. Back to the top...
Hey! The HBD sent me a Virus/Trojan/SPAM!!!Back to the top... Ack! My signature keeps disappearing from my posts!
I'll bet your signature starts with a line of underscores - like this: ___________________________ That line is actually an ASCII representation of a daemonic incantation which calls the "Sig Gobbling Daemon" from the depths of the server to do away with it and all which may follow it. Beware the evil train of underscores! Lo! Forsooth! Huh? Oh. Sorry. Some of the free-mail-if-you-let-us-spam-you-and-all-your-friends ISPs have taken to attaching sigs having more than 80 characters in length to the bottoms of all outgoing mail (likened to a leech attaching itself to your buttock). The "common thread" in all of these seems to be the evil train of underscores used to separate it from that of its unwitting host. These trigger the "line length greater than 80" filter, precluding the unwitting victims from posting to the Digest. But we're nice guys. We don't want to preclude any but the spammers and the rankest of idiots from posting. (Just kidding about the idiots - they can post freely.) So, to make a long story...well, er, longer... Karl has written a filter to burn the leeches from the buttocks of those infested. Hence, any sig starting with the evil train of underscores is heretofor kaput.... Back to the top... Nyagh! The server chomped a line from my post! (And barely missed my finger...)
It's not a bug! It's a feature! Well, uh. OK. It's a bug. The same filter, descended from heaven, which precludes the Digest's ability to pass viruses on to the readers is also responsible for the mysterious line munching. And, thanks to the incredibly observant detective by the name of Byron Towles, we now know what triggers this consumptive behavior! If any one line of your post begins with the word "end", it will be removed from your post. Yeah, yeah. We know. And we're working on making that filter a bit more intelligent, but, with the proliferation of viruses today, we feel it better to warn you against starting lines with the word "end", rather than disabling the filter and taking a chance on infecting a bunch more people...
Back to the top... Hey! What's this "Rennerian" stuff I hear about on the hbd?
Actually, it is apparent rennerian as Jeff is not yet static, so neither should be your brewery's position to his location. Confused? Long story, there. In any case, it is a coordinate system developed to determine your location relative to that of Jeff Renner's house. You see, it was deemed that Jeff Renner is actually the center of the brewing universe, and, being a courtesy to let other HBD readers know where you are (particularly when asking questions of regional interest - Jeff was very, very vocal that such information should be included with every post, hence his title as center of the brewing universe...), the rennerian coordinate system allows you to do so in HBD terms. Still confused? Not surprised. I wrote the explanation and I'm confused, too. In any case, you can click Here to calculate yours. All you need to know is your longitude and lattitude... Back to the top... Why are my messages being rejected for line length?
Many mail readers have difficulty with lines of greater than 80 characters, the Digest scripts were written to filter out those that don't comply. Set the line length in your mailer to 80 or less. (Prior to the writing of the sig filter mentioned above, you may have been starring in the role of Unwitting Victim...)
Back to the top... Why are my messages being rejected for non-ASCII characters?
Non-ASCII character sets are a relative newcomer to email. Since many mail clients have difficulty displaying (mine included!), we disallow them - choosing instead to "standardize" the Digest character set to Western or US-ASCII. Most international subscribers can properly display this character set. Back to the top... Why do you restrict line length, character sets, etc?
Our mission is to make the best brewing information possible available to anyone who has access to the internet. Incorporating every new feature, particularly in our core vehicle - the email digest, would preclude those who cannot get or afford clients employing these features from participating. Instead, we work towards means of serving our products "both ways". For instance, we are working on a method to allow Digest participants to subscribe to a straight text version or HTML version of the emailed Digest. Part of our ability to do this requires that we develop systems on the Digest server to translate the incoming postings to the plain text version (ie, programatically deal with character set conversions, HTML tag removal, etc.). Many of these systems have been developed and are being tested on the existing mail stream today. Once perfected, we will roll out the multiple version subscription system, but, until then, please respect our mission and bear with the tedium of complying with somewhat archaic rules... Back to the top... Why am I getting one file instead of all the individual posts?
Karl puts it most eloquently... "The Un-Digested version is toast. Gone. Forget it. This is because cancellation of articles is now re-enabled. As a result, there is no guarantee to maintain accuracy [with the responses generated by the undigested version to a potentially cancelled note]. We have far more requests for the cancellation feature than for the undigested feature." So there! Back to the top... I've tried and tried and tried to unsubscribe, but I still keep getting the @#$%ing Digest!
A few possibilities here:
- You didn't subscribe through the Digest, but through some other source.
Unsubscribe through the source you subscribed through. Note that if you subscribed through either of Rob Gardner's hp.com servers or either of the Association of Brewers aob.org servers, you should send your unsubscribe to this server (homebrew-request@hbd.org).
- Your mailing address or alias has changed.
Read the bottom of your Digest and note the address to which the Digest is mailing. Send this address along with your request to be unsubscibed to janitor@hbd.org
- You are sending your request to an obsolete address.
Send your unsubscribe to homebrew-request@hbd.org
- You are not following directions...
Your email to unsubscribe MUST contain the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the BODY of the note. That note must be sent to homebrew-request@hbd.org
Back to the top... I've tried and tried and tried to subscribe, but I'm still not getting the @#$%ing Digest!
Send an email note to req@hbd.org with the word "subscribe" in the body of the text (no quotes required...). Make sure you're using the email account you wish to have subscribe. That oughta do it... Back to the top... Hey! I stopped recieving the Digest, but I didn't unsubscribe! What gives?
Addresses "fall" off the list on occasion due to conditions on the internet giving the appearance that the address is no longer valid. Should you find yourself without your Digest, simply send a note containing only the word "subscribe" to req@hbd.org. Back to the top... Doh! I'm receiving TWO copies of the Digest! HELP!
If you end up with two Digests, send a note containing only the word "unsubscribe" to req@hbd.org, and only one copy of your address will be removed. If the problem continues, or you get a message indicating your address could not be found, contact janitor@hbd.org and give them your address, name and any aliases you may have subscribed under. Back to the top... Hey! Why is my mail into the Digest being rejected?!
If you get a 550 error in response to your email into the HBD, your email address or (more likely) your domain has been listed on a SPAM/Problem domain blacklist. As of 2 September 2004, we've adopted the blacklist method of mail filtering to reduce the load on the server presented by this brave new world of illicit emailing. Your best bet is to get a yahoo or hotmail account, and use that instead (and admonish your ISP for being so promiscuous with their accounts as to get on the spamlists.) If you absolutely MUST use the email address that is being rejected, use THIS FORM to submit your email address for consideration. Be warned, though, that most will not be reinstated as doing so will make moot the automation I've put in place to save me the time of culling the spam out of the queue and out of my inbox - as a I pointed out: the problem was created by your ISP; not by me. Back to the top... Ok, so what if I want ALL the Digests?
Go ftp to the Digest server hbd.org/pub/hbd/Digests. Use anonymous as your username and your email address as your password to log in. Back to the top... And what of Copyright? Is the Digest Copyrighted?
Of course, it is! We claim copyright to the compilation, and preserve copyright of posters to their individual posts. This means that you cannot republish the HBD in whole without the permission of HBD.ORG (effectively: the Janitors) or in part without the permission of the individual posters. Generally, there's no problem quoting from the Digest into club newsletters, articles, etc., as long as the source is properly attributed. There'd be HUGE trouble afoot if you were to, say, store the Digest archives on a CD ROM or book or binder and offer it for sale. Here's the full text from the HBD "info" file (send "info" in a note to req@hbd.org to get yours...): COPYRIGHT for the Digest as a collection is currently held by hbd.org (Pat Babcock). Digests in their entirity CANNOT be reprinted/reproduced without this entire header section unless EXPRESS written permission has been obtained from hbd.org. Digests CANNOT be reprinted or reproduced in any format for redistribution unless said redistribution is at absolutely NO COST to the consumer. COPYRIGHT for individual posts within each Digest is held by the author. Articles cannot be extracted from the Digest and reprinted/reproduced without the EXPRESS written permission of the author. The author and HBD must be attributed as author and source in any such reprint/reproduction. (Note: QUOTING of items originally appearing in the Digest in a subsequent Digest is exempt from the above. Home brew clubs NOT associated with organizations having a commercial interest in beer or brewing may republish articles in their newsletters and/or websites provided that the author and HBD are attributed. ASKING first is still a great courtesy...) Back to the top... Where can I make suggestions?
Back to the top... I noticed a bunch of "sponsored" clubs whose web sites seem to be housed on the HBD server. What's up with that?!
I'm glad you asked that! We see our "charter" as not only providing the Digest, but providing SERVICE to the home brewing community. Part of this, to our minds, is helping to "spread the word". A good way to do this is to help OTHERS spread the word! A good way to do that is to help clubs get on the web to advertise their stuff! Have a home brew club that needs a website? Contact webmaster@hbd.org to see about setting yours up. We offer space on the webserver, "communal" cgi-scripts for common functions and a email-based list serve for clubs at no cost - your funds are better spent on your members! We reserve the right to deny service to any applicant for whatever reason we see fit. I don't believe we have denied anyone yet, though... UPDATE: As of January 2008, HBD.ORG is no longer granting space to home brew clubs. Unfortunately, in preparation for a hosting transition, the HBD can no longer offer webspace to home brew clubs. Please avail yourselves of free web hosting providers. http://www.free-webhosts.com/ carries a useful list of free webhosts for your reference. It is recommended that those currently hosted on hbd.org begin the transition to other hosting arrangements. Expected ETA for the transition is August 2009.. Back to the top... And what about those OTHER sites I see housed on the server? Huh? What's up there?
Part of our charter to bring you the best brewing info we can get our (virtual) hands on. This is what we refer to as "The Preserve". It works like this:
Back to the top... Who are "The Janitors", and why should I like them?
The Janitors are the two twits who "run" the HBD. They spend inordinate amounts of time ensuring that SPAM doesn't creep into your beloved reading material, while continuously working to build and enhance the Digest's web presence. Their sole reason for being is to bring you the most, highest quality brewing information possible whilst not requiring one dime of your hard-earned dollars/Euros/Pounds/Lira, etc. (Though the site is sponsor and donation funded. See http://hbd.org/sponsors.html and http://hbd.org/hbddonors.html if interested.) Not only is this a really cool thing to do, it's useful, too! All this handy reference material for your brewing endeavors all in one place! Back to your original question, though: Master of the Code, and Guy Who Was Generally Quietly Working In The Background: Karl Lutzen Unfortunately, Karl "retired" from Janitorship in, roughly, September of '03, leaving the Code Mastership to Pat in full. May the good Lord have mercy on his soul. Vocal Code Hacker Who Builds The Hardware And Lives With The Servers: Pat Babcock Volunteer Queue Wrangler, For Whose Help, Pat Is MOST Grateful: Spencer Thomas. Both reachable through: janitor@hbd.org
Back to the top... Waaaa! I emailed the Janitors or Pat, but never got a reply!
There is usually only one reason why you wouldn't receive a reply to email sent to the Janitors or directly to Pat: It looked like SPAM! As you might imagine, the Janitor address, and Pat in particular, have publicly-available email addresses, and those addresses are also in thousands of HBD Subscribers' address books. The outset of this is they get just about every piece of SPAM and a wide variety of infected emails every day! (Pat gets on the order of 300 individual emails a day, of which fewer than 10% are legit!) If your email subject is not informative, it is highly unlikely that you will get a reply - or that your note will even be read! So be sure to avoid email subjects such as "hello" or even "hello Janitors" or "Get your Cialis here, Janitor!". Use subjects that are related to what you're writing about ("I can't seem to post to the Digest", "The Brewery's down again" or something like that). And please: do not ask for links from the HBD/Brewery, or for link exchanges. We generally will not respond to these requests because they are usually SPAM. But, even so, we simply do not do off-site links or link exchanges - mostly because we really don't need the publicity, but also because we sell links and ads on these domains in order to fund our existence. So please don't ask. (Before you point them out, the clubs and individuals we do list on the HBD are hosted by our servers. This holds to our no off-site links policy. Also, the Club and Vendor lists on the Brewery are not being maintained for the foreseeable future, and haven't been for some time now.)
Back to the top... Surgeon General's Warning:
The Digest is being run through the generosity and goodness of a few so that many can benefit from each others' knowledge. It is a hobby. Getting irate in your communications to the janitors will cause them to snicker and call you foul names behind your back. Knowledge of this will cause your stress level to rise to dangerous levels. Being civil will keep your ears from burning and will make everyone's life a lot easier and happier...
Back to the top... Does the HBD have a snail-mail address?
Why, yes! Yes it does:
HBD Server Fund PO Box 871309 Canton Township, MI 48187-6309 |
Back to the top... How about a phone number?
Why, no! No it doesn't. But if you provide yours in a note to the Janitors asking for a call, we might return it (it's our own "dime" though, so don't be surprised if you only get an email in return.)
Back to the top... Where can I make demands?
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© 1997 to 2008by Pat Babcock/HBD
Created 1/29/97 Last updated Thursday, 06-Mar-2008 08:54:07 EST |
That is not within the realm of possibility. Well, not very likely, in any case. First, the server which houses the HBD is a Linux box. There are no known viruses that are currently active in or against Linux-based email. Second, homebrew-request, the address I most frequently see heading up this phenomenon, is an inbound machine process - the request line for the HBD. The only things the server mails out with that address as the "From" address are the Digest, posting receipts, help responses, and a selected few other hard-coded program responses to mail sent in to the Digest addresses. It cannot have sent you a virus since it is not a machine which can get a virus, but a few lines of code in the Digest software. As any sys-admin worth their salt knows, many, if not all, current worms and viruses spoof the return ("From") address, as do many of the mass-mailing packages used by our friendly merchants of potted pork shoulder and ham products (SPAM, for any who don't get the reference...). Some do it by "harvesting" the address from the infected machine's email address book. Others have the address hard-coded into them. Still others would classify the HBD as SPAM because, for want of a better term, they are too ignorant to realize that they are receiving the HBD because they subscribed (some because their SPAM landed in the request address, and had the word "subscribe" in it...) - we don't subscribe people to the Digest (Be logical: there is nothing to be gained by doing so! We're not selling anything, after all!), and even insist that those who are changing addresses send in a subscribe request for the new address (for our records, dontchaknow?). The key here is that the method to unsubscribe is CLEARLY available at the top of the Digest, as well as at the top of this here FAQ! Even if you fail this, the failure response from the server gives you further methods, and the monthly PROBE message cuts out all impediments by allowing you to simply reply to it to be removed! (Hint: you have no excuses!)
Rather than have their info blink out of existence, webmasters of quality sites are invited to move or mirror their sites on the HBD server in exchange for their promise to not remove the information. By this method, we hope to be able to preserve quality brewing information long past the interest of the original webmaster. If you are aware of a site which you feel should be included in the HBD Site Preservation Project, contact webmaster@hbd.org. We'll review the site and, at our option, invite the webmaster to move to the HBD server. Note: We also host competition and event webpages. |
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