HOMEBREW Digest #240 Tue 29 August 1989

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	FORUM ON BEER, HOMEBREWING, AND RELATED ISSUES
		Rob Gardner, Digest Coordinator


Contents:
  Hunter Thermostat (Pete Soper)
  Hunter Thermostat (take two) (Pete Soper)
  Book recommendation wanted (Bruce Buck - Sun ECD Hardware)
  Archives (a.e.mossberg)
  Re: supply sources (list) (Michael Eldredge)
  Doric Yeast (Martin A. Lodahl)
  Hot & Cold Breaks (Martin A. Lodahl)
  Re:  well water (Martin A. Lodahl)

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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 28 Aug 89 09:39:33 EDT From: Pete Soper <soper at maxzilla.encore.com> Subject: Hunter Thermostat What I did was start with a Hunter Fan dealer, who told me they Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 89 09:58:17 EDT From: Pete Soper <soper at maxzilla.encore.com> Subject: Hunter Thermostat (take two) What I did was start with a Hunter fan dealer, who told me they didn't carry Hunter thermostats, but "so and so" appliance repair did and I was able to order it from there. Prior to this I had called some of the builder's supply stores in my area (Raleigh/Durham NC) but drew a blank. I was told by Bob Swanson (rds at vogon.cray.com) that "Builder's Square" had the unit in stock in his area (Twin Cities?) for $34 which is what I paid for mine. As for how to use it: You stick an AA cell in it, plug in the fridge and connect the unit to a wall outlet, then put the thermistor (on a 4 foot cord) into the fridge, and adjust the setpoint with a keypad. A liquid crystal display shows time, temp, setpoint, etc. --Pete Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 89 10:01:09 EDT From: bbuck at East.Sun.COM (Bruce Buck - Sun ECD Hardware) Subject: Book recommendation wanted I have an introductory homebrewing book and by using it have brewed 3 lagers and one porter from dry extracts and pelletized hops. I think I can advance beyond that now. What is the best all-around book on homebrewing? I'm probably to the advanced beginner stage and need a good detailed guide. I've seen several titles and authors mentioned here but what does everyone recommend? Thanks, Bruce Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 89 9:15:02 EDT From: aem at mthvax.cs.miami.edu (a.e.mossberg) Subject: Archives Archives are once again available on mthvax.cs.miami.edu (129.171.32.5). Thanks to Wayne Hamilton for his help, and to everyone who volunteered their own collections. aem -- a.e.mossberg / aem at mthvax.cs.miami.edu / aem at umiami.BITNET / Pahayokee Bioregion Eighty percent of mankind is stuff to fill graves with. - Ford Madox Ford Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 89 09:51:03 PDT From: dredge at hitchrack.STANFORD.EDU (Michael Eldredge) Subject: Re: supply sources (list) > From: kagenski at APOLLO.HP.COM (Joe Kagenski) > Subject: supply sources > > I would be interested in getting a list of suppliers > (catalogs) that have homebrew supplies and equipment > that folks find of value. I've started (just recently) a list of suppliers. Also, John Mellby posted the addresses of several Brew related periodicals along with his comments. I have include that list. I plan on adding actual bibliographic information also (ie: brewing books, article refs, etc.). The list is in troff REFER format. The suppliers have a special mapping of control characters given by the "brew-bib.prompt" file. This is simply used with the 'addbib' program. I hope this helps. Michael Eldredge Stanford University IC Lab ====================================== ======== brew-bib.prompt ============= Company: %Q Address: %A City: %C State: %I Zip: %P Order Phone: %N Other Phone: %V Keywords: %K ====================================== ======== brew-bib.prompt ============= %Q Alternative Beverages %A 114 Freeland Lane Suite 0 %C Charlotte %I NC %P 28217 %N 800-365-BREW %K brew supplies mailorder %Q Andrews Homebrewing Accessories %A 5740 Via Sotelo %C Riverside %I CA %P 92506 %N 714-682-7207 %K brew supplies mailorder %X Catalog: $1.00 %Q Bacchus and Barleycorn, LTD %A 8725Z Johnson Drive %C Merriam %I KS %P 66202 %N (913) 262-4243 %K brew supplies mailorder %Q Bacchus and Barleycorn - St. Louis %A 7314 Manchester %C St. Louis %I MO %P 63143 %N (314) 644-4664 %K brew supplies mailorder %Q Beer and Wine Hobby %A P.O. Box 3104 Greenwood %C Wakefield %I MA %P 01880 %N 800-523-5423 %K brew supplies mailorder %Q Brew Co. %A P.O. Box 1063 %C Boone %I NC %P 28607 %N 704-963-6949 %K brew supplies mailorder %X catalog: SASE %Q Gathering the Hoppe %A 36180 Kings Valley Hwy %C Philomath %I OR %P 97370 %N (503) 929-2736 %K brew supplies mailorder %X Hops and Wyeast %Q Great Fermentations %A 87 Larkspur %C San Rafel %I CA %P 94901 %N 800-542-2520 %V 415-459-2520 %K brew supplies mailorder %X ooops %Q Great Fermentations of Santa Rosa %A P.O. Box 428 %C Fulton %I CA %P 95439 %N 800-544-1867 %V 707-544-2520 %K brew supplies mailorder %X Byron Burch's store %Q Jasper's Home Brew Supply %A 116 Page Road %C Litchfield %I NH %P 03051 %N 603-881-3065 %K brew supplies mailorder %Q The Brass Corkscrew, Inc %A P.O. Box 30933 %C Seatle %I WA %P 98103-0933 %N (206) 783-8971 %K brew supplies mailorder %X each catalog is $1.00 Ask for: - Brewing Systems Catalog - Keggin Systems Catalog - Supplies & Equipment Catalog %Q The Frozen Wort %A P.O. Box 988 %C Greenfield %I MA %P 01302 %N (413) 773-5920 %K brew supplies mailorder %Q The Home Brewery %A 16490 Jurupa Ave %C Fontana %I CA %P 92335 %N 800-321-BREW %V 714-822-3010 %K brew supplies mailorder %Q Beer Makers of America %A 1040 North 4th St. %C San Jose %I CA %N 800-874-8200 %K brew supplies mailorder %Q RAPIDS %A 1011 2nd Ave. S.W. %A P.O. Box 396 %C Cedar Rapids %I IA %P 52406 %N 800-553-7906 %K supplies mailorder keg commercial %X Commercial kitchen supplies including kegging equipment and pots, etc. %Q Zymurgy %A P.O. Box 287 %C Boulder %I CO %P 80306-0287 %K brew magazine %O 5 times yearly $21 ($26 foreign) %X John R. Mellby jmellby%ngstl1.ti.com: Includes membership in the American Homebrewers Association. Less beer news but it tend to be a little newer. Mainly oriented towards people who brew their own beer. %Q All About Beer %A P.O.Box 15690 %C Santa Ana %I CA %P 92705-0690 %K brew magazine %O 6 times yearly, 6 issues $13, 12 issues $19.95 %X John R. Mellby jmellby%ngstl1.ti.com: This would be my choice for the first magazine to buy. Excellent coverage of beer news, new beers, beer reviews, pubs/bars, both domestic and international news. %Q American Brewer %A Box 510 %C Hayward %I CA %P 94541 %K brew magazine %O quarterly $13.50/yr $24/2 years $3 for sample issue %X John R. Mellby jmellby%ngstl1.ti.com: This is the second year of publication. News and information about and for Microbreweries. %Q What's Brewing %A Carol Couch %A CAMRA %A 34 Alma Road %A St. Algans %C Hrts AL1 3BW %I United Kingdom %K brew magazine %O monthly (newspaper about 20 pages) 9 Pounds, comes with membership in CAMRA (British Campaign for Real Ale) %E John R. Mellby jmellby%ngstl1.ti.com: Very detailed information about breweries and beer in the UK. %Q World Beer Review %A WBR Publications %A Box 71 %C Clemson %I SC %P 29631 %K brew magazine %O monthly newsletter (several pages) $14.95 or write for free sample %X John R. Mellby jmellby%ngstl1.ti.com: Very up-to-date news, in depth beer reviews (I've only seen one issue of this and haven't gotten around to subscribing.) %Q Beer Marketer's Insights %A Beer Marketer's %A 51 Virginia Ave. %C W. Nyack %I NY %P 10994 %K brew magazine %X John R. Mellby jmellby%ngstl1.ti.com: I have never seen this - any comments? %Q Fermentation Settlement %I CA %N (408) 973-8970 %K brew supplies %O Hours: 1130-700 TWTh; 1130-500 FSa Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 89 10:32:40 PDT From: Martin A. Lodahl <pbmoss!mal at hplabs.HP.COM> Subject: Doric Yeast Yesterday I made a batch of Porter (Autumn seems to be coming early here this year, and with it, my fancy lightly turns to thoughts of darker ales), and not content with trying a new recipe and unfamiliar hops, I also used a yeast I hadn't tried before: Doric. If this batch turns out to be seriously flawed, I'll have no idea whatever what the problem is! The yeast gave me a bit of a scare, in that it seemed very slow to start, and formed a softer-appearing cap than the yeasts I'm accustomed to (Edme and Red Star)(yes, I know). Has any kind HBD reader used Doric before? Is it as attenuative as Edme? As "estery" as Red Star Ale? Is it, for that matter, an ale yeast at all? Youth (?) Wants to Know ... = Martin A. Lodahl Pac*Bell Minicomputer Operations Support Staff = = {att,bellcore,sun,ames}!pacbell!pbmoss!mal 916/972-4821 = = If it's good for ancient Druids, runnin' nekkid through the wuids, = = Drinkin' strange fermented fluids, it's good enough for me! 8-) = Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 89 11:08:29 PDT From: Martin A. Lodahl <pbmoss!mal at hplabs.HP.COM> Subject: Hot & Cold Breaks I've been reading a huge HBD backlog (due to the 'phone strike, I've been a tad busy, lately) this morning, and am surprised that no one seems to have answered Gordon's question on cold breaks in HBD 221. So, lacking either fear or good judgement, I'll rush on in ... As I understand it, a "break" is large-scale flocculation, usually of proteins, brought on by temperature change. The hot break occurs during boil, and results in the sediments left behind with the hops when racking from the boiler (assuming you cool the wort elsewhere). The cold break results from the abrupt temperature drop of force-cooling, and reputedly removes many nasties responsible for chill haze and off-flavors. If my understanding is flawed, I'm sure someone will set us straight promptly! 8->} = Martin A. Lodahl Pac*Bell Minicomputer Operations Support Staff = = {att,bellcore,sun,ames}!pacbell!pbmoss!mal 916/972-4821 = = If it's good for ancient Druids, runnin' nekkid through the wuids, = = Drinkin' strange fermented fluids, it's good enough for me! 8-) = Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 89 12:55:25 PDT From: Martin A. Lodahl <pbmoss!mal at hplabs.HP.COM> Subject: Re: well water In HBD 237, Doug Bonar asks about E.coli contamination in well water. Having lived more than half my life beyond the reach of municipal supplies, I think I can address this. Your chances of contamination by E.coli (or, for that matter, by many of the most popular contaminants) depends on the depth of your well, composition of surrounding rock strata, quality and depth of the casing, surrounding population density, percolation qualities of the soil, and a host of other factors. For example: I have two wells. One is an 18' hand-dug pit, sanitary capped (presumably in response to the 1953 California law banning open wells) and fitted with a pump. The (meager) flow into this well has been contaminated for years, and though I could theoretically use it for irrigation, I don't use it at all. The contamination is undoubtedly from neighboring sewage systems. The soil here is mostly mine dump and decomposed granite (yes, I live in California's "Mother Lode" country, where virtually every square inch of soil has been turned over in search of gold) resting on a granite base, so the water leaching from a septic system can travel a considerable distance, and a shallow well is likely to draw water mainly from this source. My other well is drilled, and some 140' deep. It's cased right down to bedrock strictly to exclude surface water contamination. In the 11 years we've lived here, only once have we detected contamination: after a 1986 flood left the well head under several feet of water! I poured a gallon of bleach down the well, purged it the next day, and retested a week later, finding no further sign of coliform (or any other) contamination. The answer, I guess, is don't worry about contamination unless you've been presented with a compelling reason to do so, or unless you live in the vicinity of an industrial plant or military base. There have been many recent reports of industrial chemicals being disposed of by injecting them into dry wells, which of course moves these goodies quickly into the local water supply. When you consider the known effects of some of these chemicals, their impact on the taste of beer seems rather insignificant ... = Martin A. Lodahl Pac*Bell Minicomputer Operations Support Staff = = {att,bellcore,sun,ames}!pacbell!pbmoss!mal 916/972-4821 = = If it's good for ancient Druids, runnin' nekkid through the wuids, = = Drinkin' strange fermented fluids, it's good enough for me! 8-) = Return to table of contents
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