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  List of brewpubs (Walt Thode)
  Kegging questions (Chris Shenton)
  re:	SN yeast (florianb)


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Date:  Mon, 26 Feb 90 18:03:32 EST
From: spencer at eecs.umich.edu (Spencer W. Thomas)
Subject: Oops -- was Stainless Pressure Cooker

Well, I went home and looked at my big pressure canner, and it says,
right on the box, "Aluminum".  It's the little one that's stainless.

Sorry for the confusion.

=Spencer (spencer at eecs.umich.edu)

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Date: 26 February 1990 1547-PST (Monday)
From: thode at nprdc.navy.mil (Walt Thode)
Subject: List of brewpubs


There has been enough traffic in corrections and additions since I
recently submitted the list of brewpubs that I think it's worth 
resubmitting it.

I'm sure there are errors and omissions.  If you notice any, please send
a note to me (thode at nprdc.navy.mil) directly, since I currently don't have 
access to the digest.

Here's the list...

                                     USA

Alaska -- Douglas:
  Chinook Alaskan Brewing and Bottling Co. - 1407 5th St.

Arizona -- Tempe:
  Christopher Joseph Brewing Co./Bandersnatch Brewpub.

California -- Arcata:
  Humboldt - 856 10th Street, Arcata.

California -- Berkeley (the North Bay):
  Triple Rock - Shattuck near University, Berkeley.  "This is one of the 
    best around.  Several excellent beers; they also usually have a 
    specialty brew available. The selection varies, but they always have 
    at least an amber and a dark.  Recommended!"
  Golden Gate Brewery - Near the waterfront.  "Very big place with 
    progressively designed interior.  Beer is good, but not very hearty.  
    Pub Atmosphere."
  Bison - 2598 Telegraph.

California -- Boonville:
  Buckhorn Saloon/Anderson Valley Brewing Co. - on Highway 126 between 
    Hopland and Ft. Bragg, not far from Hopland).  "I've only had their 
    beer bottled (26 oz. bottles). The pub looked nice but I didn't have 
    time for a beer. The beer is very good; they make a Porter, an Amber, 
    a light beer, and a wheat beer which I haven't tried.  The others are 
    all excellent, especially the porter - dark and smooth, almost creamy, 
    yum yum!  Their beer is available all over the Bay Area in bottles.  
    I highly recommend it."

California -- Calistoga:
  Calistoga Inn - 1250 Lincoln Avenue, Calistoga.

California -- Chatsworth:
  Angeles Brewing Co. - 10009 Canoga Ave.

California -- Chico:
  Sherwood - 319 Main Street, Chico.
  The Saxton Brewery - 11088 Midway.  Capacity: 100 barrels.  DuBru Ale, 
    Ivanhoe Ale, Lion Hearted Ale (Seasonal) Excalibur Stout.
  Sierra Nevada - Well-known microbrewery in Calif., brewpub open late '89.

California -- Davis:
  Back Alley - 139 G Street, Davis.

California -- Emeryville:
  The Emeryville Brew Co. - The Bay Area's newest brewpub. 
  Emery Pub - 5800 Shellmound (is this the same place as the prior reference?)

California -- Emile:
  Golden Pacific Brewing - 5515 Doyle St.

California -- Eureka:
  Lost Coast - 617 4th Street, opening late '89.

California -- Fort Bragg:
  North Coast - 444 North Main Street.

California -- Fremont:
  Brewpub on the Green - 3350 Stevenson Blvd.

California -- Fresno:
  Butterfield - 777 East Olive.

California -- Hayward:
  Buffalo Bill's - B Street & 2nd street.  Own beer plus Sierra Nevada 
    and others on tap; Darts, pub food.

California -- Hollister:
  San Andreas Brewing - at 737 San Benito St in Hollister, about 45 minutes 
    east of Monterey.  "Their Earthquake Pale Ale had no head to speak of 
    but combined some nice malt and very hoppy bouquet.  The Seismic ale 
    was very fruity and harked back to some of the Lambics.  It was made 
    using some wild NY yeasts.  The earthquake porter had its taste 
    softened a touch by  the coffee and chocolate complexities brought to 
    the roasted malts.  The Kit Fox Amber had a fruity aroma, medium body, 
    no head but was a nice hop and malt blend.  Now, the Cherry Ale was a 
    definite throwback to the Belgian styles with serious cherry in the 
    bouquet and the taste but was an interesting addition to the four 
    other offerings."  (Not hurt seriously by quake damage, despite being
    near its epicenter.)

California -- Hollywood:
  Gorky's II - 1716 North Cahuenga Blvd.

California -- Hopland: 
  Mendocino Brewery - "A very nice pub with good home brewed beer.  Their 
    beer is superb, especially draft Red Tail Ale.  The original California 
    Brew Pub.  Peregrine Ale and Eye of the Hawk (seasonal) are excellent.  
    Live music, indoor and outdoor (in a hops garden) seating and good food."

California - Larkspur:
  The Marin Brew Co. - Larkspur Landing.  "Very good!  One of the best 
    around.  Large place, good pub food.  The amber and porter are both 
    excellent, the wheat beer was good but too light for my taste.  
    Recommended."

California - Lebec:
  Grapevine - 658 Lebec Road.

California -- Los Angeles:
  John Bull Pub - 958 South Fair Oaks Ave.
    (Fair Oaks south from 210, or turn left off the end of the Pasadena
    fwy 2 blocks to Fair Oaks right).  
  Gerky's Russian - 536 East 8.
  Los Angeles - 1845 South Bundy in West LA.  (Late update: This one
    "has not opened.  I heard there were serious financial problems and 
    the place probably won't open any time soon.  Too bad.")

California -- Mammoth Lakes:
  Mammoth Lakes - 170 Mountain Blvd.

California -- Modesto:
  Stanislaus Brewing Co., Inc. - 3454 Shoemaker Ave.  Capacity: 5,200 barrels. 
    St. Stan's Altbier (Amber and Dark).

California -- Monterey:
  Monterey Brewing - at 638 Wave St in the Cannery Row district of Monterey.
    "It is a small stand-alone building and a night time rock and roll bar.
    It featured a pale ale that was very hoppy.  Their Amber was a
    wonderful brew of roasted and had a hint of caramel flavor.  Their 
    porter was nearly opaque and the malt flavor practically separated in 
    your mouth for easy evaluation.  Wonderful!"  (Not damaged by recent 
    earthquake.)

California -- Mountain View:
  Tied House - Villa St.  "Yuppie to the core, too much so for my taste. 
    First time I went the beer was mediocre, since then it's been much 
    better.  They have a light, amber and dark all the time, and one or 2
    specialty brews that vary. The light's too light for me, and the amber 
    is pretty light too. The dark is what I would call an amber; both the 
    amber and dark are OK, but unmemorable."

California -- Napa:
  Willett's - 902 Main Street.

California -- Nevada City:
  Nevada City Brewing Co. - 75 Bost St.

California -- Oakland:
  Pacific Coast - 906 Washington Street.

California -- Palo Alto:
  Gordon Biersch brew pub - California St (south of University a few blocks).
    "It's a restaurant rather than a pub.  They have a Maerzen and an
    Oktoberfest (not really, it's too light to be called that) both of 
    which I liked. Pretty good food.  Overall nothing special.  3 to 5 
    varieties of homebrew, depends on day & season."
  Lancashire Tavern.

California -- Pasadena:
  Crown City - 300 Sourth Raymond.

California -- Sacramento:
  Hogshead Brewing Co. - 114 J Street.
  Rubicon Brewing Co. - 2004 Capitol Avenue.

California -- San Diego:
  Old Columbia - in downtown San Diego.  "The first brewpub in San Diego.
    It has taken the path to long-term success (I suppose) by catering 
    to the yuppie crowd, and their market research must have worked, 
    because the place is always crowded.  The beer isn't bad, but it's 
    a little lacking in character.  A glass wall separates the dining 
    area and brewery, where the tanks and other equipment are visible."
  Mission Brewery - scheduled to open April '90.  "The brewmaster went 
    through a previous incarnation in a back-alley place in Fallbrook 
    (50 mi. north).  I liked his beer there better than Old Columbia's; 
    it had a better flavor and a bit more hops bitterness.  He's 
    currently making beer to sell in 3-4 restaurants around town.  The 
    on-site place is part of a renovation of an old (70 years ago) 
    brewery building near Pacific Highway and Washington St. into 
    a brewery/office/shop complex."

California -- San Francisco:
  San Francisco Brewing Co. - Columbus Ave (near Broadway).
    "Not bad. Nicely decorated and a good atmosphere. Not too Yuppie! 
    The beer's pretty good but not as good as Triple Rock. They've
    only once had an amber, usually it's 2 lager's and a porter. The
    porter's pretty good.'
  Sea Cliff Cafe - 1801 Clement.
  The Toronado - Haight Street.  " This place has an amazing selection 
    of microbrews, perhaps like nowhere else in the nation.  They 
    typically have 13 brews on tap, usually 6-8 of which are local 
    microbrews, e.g., try the blue whale ale or devil's brew stout.  
    They also have about 50 microbrews in bottles, not to mention other 
    hard to find imports and fun things like soki.  Very trendy
    Haight-esque crowd which seems uninterested in the amazing 
    selection - wear black if you want to fit in."

California -- San Jose:
  Winchester Brewing Company - "They have three brews, a pale ale, 
    an amber ale, and a stout.  For $2.50, you can get a "sampler", a 
    small glass of each ale.  Operated by a Chinese family so food is 
    Chinese influenced.  Their beers are not hearty--rather thin, but their
    Pale Ale is the hoppiest beer around.  Their "Porter" is so thin that 
    light can shine through it."

California -- San Luis Obispo:
  SLO Brewing - 1119 Garden Street.

California -- Santa Cruz:
  Front Street Pub (Santa Cruz Brewing) - at 516 Front Street in Santa Cruz.
    "It a nice western pub atmosphere, good bar food and Lighthouse Lager.
    Although it was slightly cloudy and the slightest yeast and dyacitil
    in the taste, I rated it a 40. The Lighthouse Amber had a perfect
    copper color and loses a point on body but has terrific drinkability.
    Their Pacific Porter was a sterling application of roasted malt.
    They had bottles to go."  (Out of action temporarily after recent
    earthquake.)
  Sea Bright Brewing Company - at 519 Sea Bright.  "This was a more modern 
    type of a well lit bar and seemed to cater to a young crowd. I tried 
    their sampler which included Pelican Ale, a hoppy ale with a rocky 
    head and wonderful aftertaste.  The Sea Bright Amber was unfiltered 
    and therefore a touch cloudy and yeasty but while the hops dominated 
    the aroma, the taste was more balanced.  Their Batman's Best Bitter 
    was crystal clear, a bit weak on body but the final rating was 
    identical to the Amber.  They also had Kangaroo Pale Ale which 
    contains only 1.5% alcohol.  It was maltier, sweet, had a slight 
    green apple smell and taste and wasn't a great beer."  (Survived 
    recent earthquake without major damage.)

California -- Santa Monica:
  City of Angels Pub/Brewery - opened in January '89.  Brewing and serving 
    Heavenly Gold, Angel Amber, City Light, and one seasonal beer.
    (Late update: They have "closed down and sold all their brewing 
    equipment.  They're planning to reopen as the Yuppie-Chow "Border 
    Grill" and sell Corona and Amstel Light."  Too bad!)

California -- Santa Rosa:
  Kelmer's Brew House - Ale, lager, stout, and sometimes porter, all good.
    "This is very new place, refectory tables and darts are the atmosphere."

California -- Truckee:
  Pizza Junction - 11401 Donner Pass Road.

California -- Walnut Creek:
  Devil's Mountain Brewery - on N Main St.  "The Devil Mountain is a 
    'classier' place without being snobbish and brews 6 beers at the 
    moment.  I recommend their Hexenbock Lager as perhaps one of the 
    best lagers I have tasted, I'm not a real lager fan though.  I suspect
    it is one of those love/hate brews as it does have an unusual taste."

California -- Woodland:
  Dead Cat Alley - 666 Dead Cat Alley.

Colorado -- Boulder:
  Boulder Brewing Co. - 1880 Wilderness Place?

Colorado -- Denver:
  The Wynkoop Brewery - The first brew-pub in the Denver area.

Colorado -- Durango:
  Carver Brewing Co.

Colorado -- Vail:
  Alpenstube.

District of Columbia -- 
  Old Heurick Brewing Company - "Headquarters in DC, but currently contract 
    brewed somewhere in PA I think.  Gary Heurick is a 3rd generation 
    brewer. His grandfather had  a brewery in DC at the site of the 
    current Kennedy Center megalith (what a waste!).  Not surprisingly, 
    the operation went under some time after Prohibition.  Gary's
    trying to bring it back, and pushing the DC's-own-beer concept.
    Not bad beer, either, `Old Heurick'.  Based on his grandfather's 
    recipe, the taste and color are somewhat akin to Bass -- full-bodied, 
    though not heavy, and a decent malt/hop aroma. Well carbonated.  A 
    good brew, but not stunning."

Florida -- Gainesville:
  Mill Bakery, Eatery & Brewery - 6791 Newberry Rd. (Oak Mall Plaza).
    "Homebrew for Bud drinkers.  Mostly light beers, all are very light 
    on hops.  Their Weitzen is pretty good though.  This is a chain, ... 
    the beer is the same at each store.  Their `Brewmaster' is a 19 year 
    old kid "who helped somebody make beer once or twice.  All he does 
    is follow directions.  Not impressive."
  The Market Street Pub, Downtown, Gainesville.  "Built by hand by my
    friends Rob Benn and Ed Cooper.  A really tremendous bar in the style
    of an english pub.  Just opened though, so their first batch won't be
    served until Dec 89.  Ed is a fine brewer, so I doubt I'll be
    disappointed."

Florida -- Miami:
  Zum Alten Fritz - 1840 N.E. 4th Ave.

Florida -- Pensacola:
  McGuire's Irish Pub.

Florida -- Tampa:
  Lee Nicholson's Tampa Brewpub - 10330 N.Dale Mabry Hwy.

Florida -- Winter Park:
  Winter Park Brewing - 330 Fairbanks Ave.
    "They make an Ales and Lagers.  The brewmeister's name is Hans.  
    He told me that he uses Stroh's Yeast that he gets from Tampa.  
    I asked him about the Ales and he uses the same yeast but just 
    ferments it at a higher temperature."

Georgia -- Helen:
  Friends Brewing Co. - Their "Helenbock Beer" took a silver medal at 
    1989 Great American Beer Festival.

Georgia -- Atlanta:
  Georgia Brewing Co. -- Their "Wild Boar Special Amber" took a bronze
    medal at 1989 Great American Beer Festival and was picked number 5
    overall in the GABF consumer preference poll.

Hawaii -- Wailuku:
  Pacific Brewing Co. - P.O. Box 1137.

Idaho -- Caldwell:
  Snake River Brewing Co. - Route 5, Box 30A.

Idaho -- Coeur d'Alene:
  T.W. Fischer's.

Illinois -- Chicago:
  Berghoff (restaurant and bar), 17 W. Adams - "has their own beer (brewed 
    for them, but they are building their own brewery); good Oktoberfests.
  River North Brewery/Sieben Brewing Co. - the first brewpub in Chicago.
  Goose Island Brewery - 1800 N Clyborn (just n. of North Ave. at the corner
    of Willow, Sheffield, and Clyborn).  "Monday nights are Lager Nights and
    Tuesdays are Ale Nights.  The special prices are $1.50 a pint.  Usually
    everything is $3.00.  In addition to their regular Ale and Lager, they
    also have a regular Pils and two or three specialty brews that change
    with the seasons."
  Tap and Growler - 901 W. Jackson.  "This place has some good beer,
    but wasn't very consistent.  The food was the best of the three.  They
    also sell other brands of bottled beer."
  Weinkeller - corner of Roosevelt Rd. and Ridgland Ave. in Berwyn.
    "Over 500 different beers; recently they started brewing their own."

Iowa -- Amana:
  Millstream Brewing Co. - P.O. Box 283.

Kansas -- Lawrence:
  The Free State Brewery - In the 600 block of Massachusetts St.  "The 
    owner has been interested in beer and brewing for some time, and spent 
    the last couple of years putting this together.  Before he could do 
    anything, he had to get Kansas laws changed!  Kansas passed prohibition 
    in the 1880s, and the breweries then in existence closed.  This is 
    the first one to open since.  They make three beers: a Kolsch (a light 
    beer for American tastes), an Ale (which is really *wonderful*), and 
    a bock.  They'll change seasonally. They also have great food and a 
    pleasant atmosphere."

Kentucky -- Ft. Mitchell (Northern Kentucky)
  Oldenberg Microbrewery - Buttermilk Pike.  "Take I-75 south (from 
    Cincinnati) to Buttermilk Pike.  The Brewery is visible from the 
    expressway.  Features a full-bodied premium and a very drinkable 
    blonde.   The beer is a bit pricey from the tap at $2.00 a mug, 
    $7.00 a pitcher.  The premium has a robust taste and finishes 
    smooth.  This beer is among the countries 5 finest beers, a
    definite must try.  The brewery also has a fine collection of
    beer paraphernalia and a German style beer hall with live
    entertainment."

Louisiana -- Abita Springs:
  Abita Brewing Co - P.O. Box 762.

Maine -- Portland:
  Gritty McDuff's.

Maryland -- Baltimore:
  Sisson's Restaurant - "on East Cross Street, a few blocks from the Inner
    Harbor, has become the first brewpub in Maryland.  Sisson's is serving 
    golden and amberales, along with its existing list of about 60 specialty 
    beers and a menu that features Cajun and Creole dishes and fresh seafood."
    Another point of view on Sisson's - "I visited there Nov 89 after 
    reading this posting. I was *not* impressed by the beer -- certainly not 
    enough to drive the 40 minutes it took to get there. The beer was 
    `wimpy', lacking in any substantial body, and not real tasty. Their 
    porter was the best of the three they had, the others being a pilsner 
    (I think), and an amber ale.  At least it had some taste, but again, a 
    Bud had more body. Almost no hop or malt aromas either (per style). I 
    hope they eventually get their act together and do a reasonable beer 
    with guts and spirit."
  Baltimore Brewing Company - Albemarle Street at Pratt.  "The newest and
    brightest star on Maryland's brewing stage.  Authentic, elegantly-
    served German cuisine, comfortable setting.  Three regularly-brewed 
    lagers: Helles, Pils, and Dunkles.  Helles is similar to industrial 
    brews, light body and character.  Pils is robust and redolent with 
    hops. Dry and tasty.  Dunkles is a creamy dark beer with a roast 
    malt character."  Another comment: "Currently three beers: Helles 
    (rich, full-bodied, well-hopped), Pils (lighter, also full-bodied
    and very well hopped), and Dunkle (dark, full-bodied, malty). All 
    very good, German-style beers. The guy I talked to said they are 
    going to be offering a bock and a weizen as the seasons evolve. I've 
    been there twice, and the character of the beer has been slightly 
    variable, due largly to the newness of the place. Very busy on 
    weekend evenings. Reasonably good German food, too, and all at fair 
    prices."

Maryland -- Cambridge:
  Wild Goose Brewing Co. -- "Makes only one beer at this time, "Wild Goose
    Amber".  Coppery color with a predominintly bitter hops flavor and a 
    long-lasting hops aftertaste.  Very good."

Maryland -- Glen Burnie:
  The British Brewing Co. - 6759 Baymeadow Dr.  "Until ~Nov. 89 only 
    sold to a chain of bars, now available in bottles, at least in 
    Annapolis, MD; name is Oxford Class.  English style ale, low
    carbonation, nice amber color. Precious little malt/hop aroma.  I 
    didn't find it had a lot of taste, and not much body.  While drinking 
    it, I kept thinking of tap water.  I describe it as `wimpy', but a 
    friend of mine enjoys it quite a bit (he says there's lots-o-hops). 
    The brewer is from England, and he keeps increasing the amount of 
    carbonation from what it typical in England to what can keep 
    Americans pacified. He also seems to be tweaking the recipe in each 
    batch, as subsequent tastings have been different.  I'd recommend 
    drinking this beer at cellar temperature, although the label 
    suggests drinking it cold (Americanism?)."

Massachusetts -- Boston/Cambridge:
  Commonwealth Brewing Company - 85 Merrimac Street; five house brewed 
    beers (not bottled?)  "I had some of their Boston Best Burton Bitter, 
    which was drinkable, but not much more.  A fair sense of the hops,
    moderately bitter, but no real finish, no nose.  Very cloudy, too.
    After that I ordered a pint of the amber ale, which had been very good the
    last time I had been there.  This was a real disaster - almost as dark as a
    porter, but completely bland in taste.  Bud in a can has more taste than
    this stuff.  Overall, a major disappointment.  I'll be in no rush to
    return."
  Cambridge Brewing Company - on Hampshire St just outside of Kendal Square
    (Note - this was written by a part-time bartender there)  "The beer is 
    much better than it was when we first opened.  Tending bar I now hear 
    much more of 'this is really good' than 'this is interesting'."  
  Jacob Wirth's - 31 Stuart and Eliot?
  Wursthaus - at Harvard Square

Massachusetts -- Northampton:
  Northampton Brewery/Brewester Court. - "I can vouch for the quality of 
    their beer and sandwiches, although the atmosphere is a little too 
    much on the fake-marble/brandspankingnew/yuppie side."

Michigan -- Kalamazoo:
  Bell's Brewery - This one "is a microbrewery located in Kalamazoo.  It 
    is not in fact a brewpub, which are currently illegal within Michigan."
    There are various locations in Ann Arbor which carry Bell's products.
    "Some names you may see: Bell's Beer, Great Lakes Amber Ale, Third 
    Coast Beer.  He makes a couple of stouts (one is called Expedition 
    Stout, and there is a cherry stout), a Porter, some more Ales (one is 
    called Brown Ale or something like that).

Minnesota -- Minneapolis:
  Tap's Waterfront Brewpub.

Minnesota -- Minnetonka:
  Sherlock's Home Brewery - 1000 Red Circle Drive.  "Opened early summer, 
    '89.  Stag's Head Stout, Piper's Pride (Scottish Ale), Bishop's Bitter, 
    Palace Porter, Star of India (IPA), Gold Crown Lager, Queen Anne Light."

Minnesota -- St. Paul:
  Summit Brewing Co.  1,514 barrels.  "After installing a bottling line and 
    doubling production, Summit has not been able to keep up with demand. 
    The packaging for Great Northern Porter, a gold medal winner at GABF, 
    is completed, the company reports."

Montana -- Helena:
  Montana Beverage Ltd. - 1439 Harris Street.

Montana -- Missoula:
  Bayern Brewing/Northern Pacific.

Nevada -- Virginia City:
  Union Brewery.

New Jersey -- Vernon:
  Vernon Valley Brewery - 1,500 barrels.  "Vernon Valley introduced two 
    brands in 1987, Old World Classic Dark and Old World Classic Winter 
    Bock, packaged in liter bottles.  The brewery is also experimenting 
    with formulations for a light beer and a double bock."

New Mexico -- Embudo:
  Preston Brewery - P.O. Box 154.

New York -- Buffalo:
  Buffalo Brewpub - "This is a local pub in Williamsville (a Buffalo suburb)
    selling a lot of imported beer and producing their own beer and ale to sell
    on the premises.  They produce a dark Amber Ale, and a young Hardy Lager.
    Supposedly they also offer good pub food."

New York -- Ithaca:
  The Chapterhouse - "located on Stewart Avenue at the foot of Cornell
    University opened in the spring of 1989 and has been brewing 3-4 beers
    regularly, as well as making the extracts for very good root beers and 
    ginger ales.  On any given night, there are usually three or four beers 
    very generally described as going from light to dark.  The light is 
    usually a superior reproduction of American Industrial "Lite", while 
    the darker and richer beers, usually a bitter and a stout, seem well 
    rounded and flavorful.  A drawback seems to be the small size of the 
    operation.  There is little capacity to let the beer age and mellow, 
    and we have noticed that the stout in particular is often poured 
    'ahead of its time', leading to a very harsh pint."

New York -- New York City:
  Manhattan Brewery - "Try their Porter."
  New Amsterdam Brewery -
  The Peculier Pub - "is alive and well, and in new and much larger quarters 
    on Bleecker near LaGuardia Place (between 6th and Bway).  If you find 
    yourself in NYC and are looking for a fine beer selection, try it out."
  Old New York Brewing Co., Inc. -  610 W. 26th St.

New York -- Rochester:
  Rochester Brewpub. - "located at the Marketplace Inn, on Jefferson Road.
    This place is owned by the same people as the Buffalo Brewpub. They
    serve several of their own brews, and all are mediocre.  The food
    is poor, and the service is worse.  There are better places to drink
    in Rochester."

North Carolina -- Charlotte:
  Dilworth Brewing - 1301 East Blvd.

North Carolina -- Durham:
  Weeping Radish Restaurant & Brewery.

North Carolina -- Manteo:
  Bavaria South, Inc. (Weeping Radish Brewpub) - P. O. Box 1471

North Carolina -- Raleigh:
  Greenshield's Pub & Brewery - 214 E Martin St.  Opened in early July '89.
    Pale ale and Munich Amber.

Ohio -- Cincinnati:
  Wallaby Bob's - Australian Brewpub.  "Wallaby Bob's is in a mall, and 
    might technically be a microbrewery, since they do (apparently) 
    bottle and sell their beer at least for takeout.  I have not yet 
    sampled their wares."

Ohio -- Cleveland:
  Great Lakes Brewing Co.
  Melbourne's Brewing Co.

Ohio -- Dayton:
  Growlers Brewpub - "No taste information.  In addition, Growlers is 
    opening a brewpub in Columbus in the fall and plans on opening four 
    more by the end of 1990 in south Dayton, Cleveland, Cincinnati and 
    Middletown, Ohio."

Ohio -- Strongsville:
  Strongsville Brewing Co.

Oklahoma -- Tulsa:
  Duke of Kensington.

Oregon -- Ashland:
  Rogue River Brewing Co.

Oregon -- Bend:
  Deschutes Brewery & Public House.

Oregon -- Corvallis:
  Squirrel's Tavern - "Unquestionably one of the best taverns on the 
    West Coast.  A jewel of taverns in the San Francisco style.  Features 
    Northwest microbrews, Canadian Lagers, Henry's on tap.  Features 
    good food, good music, and real live Oregon hill people."
  Old World Deli & Oregon Trail Brewing Co. - 431 SW Second.  Capacity: 
    3,600 barrels.  Oregon Trail Brown Ale, English Bitter, Porter, Stout.

Oregon -- Eugene:
  High Street Pub.
  East 19th St. Cafe - a McMenamin brewpub.

Oregon -- Gresham:
  Highland Pub & Brewery.

Oregon -- Hillsboro:
  Cornelius Pass Roadhouse - Cornelius Pass Rd., just south of Highway 26.
    Capacity: 728 barrels.  Terminator, Liquidator, Hammerhead, Crystal Ale,
    Cascade Head, Ruby Tuesday, Cascade Ale, and seasonal brews.
 
Oregon -- Hood River:
  White Cap Pub (Hood River Brewing Co.) - 506 Columbia St.  Capacity: 
    2,500 barrels.  Hood River Full Sale Golden Ale and Chestnut Brown Ale,
    Porter,Stout and seasonal brews. (Bottled and draft.)
 
Oregon -- Lincoln City:
  Lighhouse Brewpub - 4157 N. Highway 101.  Capacity: 728 barrels.  
    Terminator, Liquidator, Hammerhead, Crystal Ale, Cascade Head, Ruby 
    Tuesday, Cascade Ale and seasonal brews.
 
Oregon -- Portland:
  Brewery Public House (Portland Brewing Co.) - 1339 NW Flanders.
    Capacity: 2,500 barrels. Grant's Ale, Imperial Stout, Winter Ale,
    Portland Ale, Tmberline Ale.
  Bridgeport Brewpub - 1313 NW Marshal.  Capacity: 5,000 barrels.  Bridgeport 
    Ale, Golden Ale, Stout, Emra Stout, Harvest Bitter, Spring Draft, 
    Winter Brew, Ski Draft, Old Knucklehead Barleywine, Caledonia Ale, 
    Rose City Ale.
  Dublin Pub - 6821 SW Beaverton-Hillsdale Highway.  104 beers on tap, open
    Thanksgiving 1989.  (503)297-2889
  Fulton Pub & Brewery.
  Hillsdale Brewery & Public House - 1505 SW Sunset Blvd.  Capacity: 728 
    barrels.  Terminator, Liquidator, Hammerhead, Crystal, Cascade Head, 
    Ruby Tuesday, Cascade Ale and seasonal brews.
  Lloyd Center McMenamin's - one of the McMenamin's 17 brewpubs.
  Portland Brewing Company, 1339 N.W.Flanders, 503/222-7150.  Brewery and
    pub.  Fresh draft beer to-go.
  Widmer Brewing Co. - 1405 NW Lovejoy.  Capacity: 2,000 barrels.  Widmer 
    Ale, Weizen, Festbier, Bock, Maerzen, Oktoberfest.

Oregon -- Salem:
  Thompson Brewery and Public House - a McMenamin brewpub.
 
Oregon -- (no city given):
  McMinneman Brothers Taverns - (The Greenway Pub, McMinneman's, Cornelius 
    Pass Roadhouse).  "These feature many of the Northwest brews and 
    international brews.  Good food.  Watch out for their own brews, 
    however -- just not up to the NW quality of microbrews."

Pennsylvania -- Adamstown:
  Stoudt's Brewery - in Adamstown, near Lancaster, Pa.  "Has been open for 
    about two years.  Stoudt's is located in a large beer hall/flea market 
    complex.  They serve a range of six or so beers, all on the good to 
    wonderful side."

Pennsylvania -- Philadelphia:
  Samuel Adams Brewhouse.

Pennsylvania -- Pittsburgh:
  Pennsylvania Brewing Co. - "Just opened its brewpub on the North Side
    of Pittsburgh.  The beer, Penn Pilsener, which has been brewed in 
    Smithton, Pa., is good and has a dark roast barley taste for a pilsener.  
    The Jones brewery in Smithton still will make the bottled stuff.  But 
    the Northside Brewery will make the draft stuff.  They make about 5 
    different kinds now: A wheat beer, a dark beer, the regular stuff, a 
    light lager, and a type called Kaiser Pils.  They will be serving a 
    full menu of light German fare (whatever that is)."
   
Texas -- Austin:
  Maggie Mae's - Line St. Station

Texas -- Plano:
  Reinheitsgebot Brewing Co. - "Reinheitsgebot has just completed plans for 
    a 3,500-barrel upgrade.  County Collin Emerald Beer was recently 
    introduced by the company."

Vermont -- Burlington:
  Vermont Pub & Brewery - "We observe that they are currently offering
    four varieties of brewed-on-the-premises malted beverage: Irish Burly Ale,
    Pub Porter, Kellerbier Lager and Rock Dunder Brown Ale."

Virgin Islands -- St. Thomas:
  Island Brewing and Malting, Ltd. - P.O. Box 5310.

Virginia -- Charlottesville:
  Blue Ridge Brewery - 709 West Main Street; "owned by William Faulkner's 
    grandsons.  They brew four types of beer: their Hawksbill Lager is 
    their best-selling brand, but has the weakest body--it is similar to 
    most U.S. industrial beers in character.  Piney River Lager is 
    another pilsner-style lager, but has significantly more body and 
    flavor--it is reminiscent of the lagers of Southern Germany.  Afton 
    Ale is a hopheads dream; it is an amber bitter ale made with 5 types 
    of hops and has a sharp lingering hops flavor but a somewhat thin 
    body.  Humpback Stout is a rich creamy stout with the flavor of roast 
    malt and is neither overly bitter nor too sweet.  Occasionally 
    seasonal beers are offered; the first of these was a wheat beer
    offered in mid-summer 1989--a bock is planned for spring 1990."

Virginia -- Virginia Beach:
  Virginia Brewing Co.  (Formerly Chesapeake Bay Brewing Co.)  
    "Its brewmeister, Wolfgang Roth, was educated in German beer
    institutes and produces a *fantastic* pair of brews -- Gold Cup 
    Pilsner and Virginia Native Dopplebock. The pilsner is about as from 
    from Urquell as you can imagine -- nice sharp hop bite, lots of body; 
    a well balanced but but by no means delicate brew. Virginia Native is 
    a heavy thirst-quenching brew with (again) lots of body, and a 
    screaming hop bite and aroma. One of the `wettest' beers I have ever 
    tasted. Both -- until ~August 89 -- were only available at a certain 
    chain of DC area bars; Gold Cup is now available in bottles (around 
    DC at least). I also got a keg of Gold Cup (wonderful, but pricey), 
    and I hear I can get Virginia Native in kegs too.  I've also heard 
    that a modified Native will be available in bottles as a 
    Christmastime beer -- name unknown. This stuff has guts and spirit 
    like the Grants beers I had in Seattle, but is much better balanced, 
    and has higher consistency, batch-to-batch."

Washington -- Colville:
  Hales Ales Ltd. - 701 N. Main St.

Washington -- Kalama:
  Hart Brewing Co. - 176 First St. Capacity: 5,000 barrels.  Pyramid Pale Ale, 
    Wheaten Ale, Pacific Crest Ale, Snowcap Ale (Bottled and Draft).

Washington -- Kirkland:
  Kirkland Roaster - "A very good restaurant with an outstanding bar--a
    gleaming copper bartop with what seemed to be over 20 handles serving
    microbrewed beer!  Wow!  And you can look through the glass
    windows into the Hale's Ales brewery next door.  (Love their
    slogan--'Give 'em Hale's!')"

Washington -- Monroe:
  Kufnerbrau - 112 N. Lewis St.  Capacity. 3,000 barrels.  Kufnerbrau Old 
    Bavarian Style Beer (Bottled and draft).

Washington -- Moort(?):
  Kueiner Brewing Co. - l770 Bronghton Drive.

Washington -- Poulsbo:
  The Brewery Tap Room (Kemper Brewing Co.) - 22381 Foss Rd. NE.
    Capacity: 4,000 barrels. Thomas Kemper Munchener Helles, Munchener 
    Dunkel, Bock (Bottled and draft). 

Washington -- Pullman
  Rico's Pub - Main Street.  12 beers on draught (Hale's, Grant's, 
    Widmer's).  Impression of an English pub.  60% clients students from 
    Washington State Univ.

Washington -- Rolling Bay:
  Kemper Brewing Co. - P.O. Box 4689.

Washington -- Seattle:
  The Big Time Brewery Alehouse - "On University Way (also known as the Ave),
    one block from campus.  Very good place.  Turns out that it's owned 
    by the same guy who owns the Triple Rock Brewery in Berkeley, CA.  
    Exact same formula.  Same three beers.  Same decor.  Same everything.
    Only the name is stupider up here, and the pale ale is a little
    weak (probably needs to brew longer).  I did not try the pale ale.  
    The porter was a little thin tasting (although it was plenty dark).  
    It also seemed a bit on the dry side.  It was leaning towards being a 
    stout.  The amber ale was very fruity tasting and a bit sweet.  Someone 
    in our group thought it was too sweet."
  Blue Moon - "Has half a dozen ales on tap -- Hale's Celebration Porter, 
    Hale's Special Bitter, Ballard Bitter, Red Hook ESB, Grant's IPA, 
    Grant's Scottish, Grant's Russian Imperial Stout, and Grant's 
    Cider... whoops! that's NINE!"
  Cooper's - 8065 Lake City Way N.E., 522-2923.  22 Draft beers, darts,
    fish and chips.  "Seattle's Original Ale House"?
  F X McRory's Steak Chop & Oyster House - 419 Occidental S., 623-4800.
    26 Fresh Live Draught Beers; Anchor Steam Christmas Ale, Ballard
    Bitter, Big Rock Cold Cock, Big Rock Winter Porter, BridgePort
    Winter Brew, Grant's Scottish Ale, Guinness, Hale's Celebration
    Porter, Hale's Moss Bay Ale, Hale's Special Bitter, Hale's Wee Heavy,
    Harp, Poulsbo Pilsner, Pyramid Wheaten Ale, Ranier Dry, Redhook ESB,
    Shaftebury Cream Ale, Thomas Kemper Lager, Thomas Kemper WinterBrau,
    Widmer Fest Bier, Young's Winter Warmer, + ordinary beers.
  Horse Brass - 4534 S.E. Elmont, 232-2202.  Featuring Ales, stouts, and
    beers from throughout the world.  Bangers, meat pies, scotch eggs.
  Jake O'Shaughnessey's - 401 Bellevue Sq, 455-5559.  29 Fresh live draught
    beers, currently featuring: Anchor Steam Christmas Ale, Ballard Bitter,
    Bass, BridgePortGolden, Full Sail Golden Ale, Grant's Scottish Ale,
    Guinness, Hale's Moss Bay Amber, Hale's Pale American, Hale's Special
    Bitter, Harp, Heineken, Paulaner Salvator, Pyramid Wheaten Ale, Redhook
    ESB, Thomas Kemper Lager, Thomas Kemper WinterBrau, T.W.Fisher's
    Centennial Pale Ale, Snow Cap Holiday Ale, Widmer's Hefeweizen Young's
    Winter Warmer, Young's Special + ordinary beers.
  La Boheme -  6119 Phinney Ave N.  15 beers on draught, just opened.
  Murphy's Pub - In the U district in Seattle, out west on 45th.  "Great
    pub!  They usually have all the micro brewery beers on tap and lots
    of english/irish beers too."
  Noggins - "This is owned by the same people who run the Spinnaker in 
    Victoria, B.C.  They serve six or seven of their own brews on tap.  
    They serve each beer at the right temperature.  I have spoken to 
    their brewmaster and he knows what he is doing.  I have not tried 
    their wheat beer, but the general consensus is that it is bad 
    (with the exception of a female friend of mine who loves it).  They 
    have two locations (and the dark ale is slightly different at each. 
    One is in the University District, at the SE corner of Brooklyn 
    Ave. NE and NE 42nd Street.  The other is in Westlake Center."
  The Pacific Northwest Brewing Company, Ltd. 322 Occidental Ave. S.,
    621-7002 (in Pioneer Square) Restaurant, bar, brewery.  Cask
    conditioned ales served in an interesting array of glasses.
  Pike Place Brewery, 1432 Western Ave.  Tiny micropub - 3.5 barrel kettle
    producing a pale ale.
  The Redhook Brewery - "Does have a bar on site.  However, it is not a
    true brewpub since their beer is available on draft and in bottles 
    elsewhere.  Their address is 3400 Phinney Ave N (I believe)."

Washington -- Spokane:
  Fort Spokane Brewery - beers served in neighboring restaurant.  Pale Ale,
    Red Alt, Border Run Ale.

Washington -- Tacoma:
  Engine House No 9; 611 N. Pine, 272-3435.  29 beers on draft including
    9 seasonal selections; 3 cask-conditioned ales; 45 international bottled
    beers.  Pizzas, tacos, chili.

Washington -- Yakima:
  The Brewery Pub (Vakima Brewing & Malting Co.) - on N. Front St.
    Capacity: 7,000 barrels.  Grant's Scottish Ale, Imperial Stout, Weiss 
    Bier, India Pale Ale, Spiced Ale, Yakima Hard Cider (Bottled and draft).
  Roslyn Brewing Co. - just off I-90.  Bert Grant's new brewpub!

Wisconsin -- Appleton:
  Appleton Brewing Co.

Wisconsin -- Kenosha:
  The Brewmaster's Pub.

Wisconsin -- Milwaukee:
  Olivers Station/Cherryland Brewing.
  Water Street Brewery.

Wyoming -- Jackson:
  Otto Brothers - P.O. Box 4177.


                                  CANADA

Alberta -- Calgary:
  Big Rock Brewers - 6403 35th St. S.E.

Alberta -- Edmonton:
  Boccalino Pasta Bistro - 10525 Jasper Ave.

British Columbia -- Comox:
  Leeward Brewpub - 649 Anderton Road.

British Columbia -- Richmond:
  Steveston Brewing Co. - 3131 Chatham.

British Columbia -- Vancouver:
  Granville Island Brewing - 1441 Cartwright Street.
  Horseshoe Brewery and Troller Pub - 6695 Nelson Ave. (W. Vancouver).

British Columbia -- Vernon:
  Okanagan Spring Brewery Ltd. - P.O. Box 1660.

British Columbia -- Victoria:
  The Spinnaker - "The only pub in Vince Cottone's book on Pacific 
    Northwest microbrews to rate four stars (the maximum).  (See entry
    for Noggins in Seattle.)"

Nova Scotia -- Halifax:
  Ginger's Tavern - also called Oranite Brewery; 1268 Holla St.

Ontario -- Burlington:
  Burlington Brewing Co.

Ontario -- Guelph:
  Wellington County Brewery, Ltd. - 950 Woodlawn Rd. W.

Ontario -- Heidelberg:
  Heidelberg Hotel (Brewpub) - P.O. Box 116. 

Ontario -- Kingston:
  Kingston Brewing Co. - 34 Clarence Street.

Ontario -- Kirkland Lake:
  Kirkland Lake Bavarian Tavern & Bernies Brewpub.

Ontario -- Lindsay:
  York Tavern - 24 Kent St. W.

Ontario -- Mississauga:
  Conners Brewing Co. Ltd. - 6 Owen St. W.
  Tapsters Brewpub.

Ontario -- Nepeau:
  Ottawa Valley Brewing Co. - 20-C Enterprise Ave.

Ontario -- Orillia:
  Blue Anchor Brewery.

Ontario -- Sault Saint Marie:
  Jolly Friar Brasserie & Brewpub.

Ontario -- Thunder Bay:
  Port Arthur Brasseries & Brewpub.

Ontario -- Toronto:
  Amsterdam Brasserie & Brewpub - 133 John St.
  Upper Canada Brewing Co. - 2 Atlantic Avenue.

Ontario -- Welland:
  Atlas Hotel - 35 Southworth Street North.

Prince Edward Island -- Charlottetown:
  Island Brewery, Ltd. - P. O. Box 1177.

Quebec -- Hudson:
  Mon Village Brewery.
 
Quebec -- Lennoxville:
  Golden Lion - #6 College St.

Quebec -- Montreal:
  Le Bar Cervoise.


The following individuals provided information that appears in the list.  
The commentaries sprinkled throughout are theirs:
        Doug Allison (!gaetch!hisata!doug)
        owen_d_beckley at att.com
        Jim Boughton (boughton at rd1632.dayton.ncr.com)
        Jackie Brown (bitnet: brown at msukbs)
        motcid!ecru!chambers at uunet.UU.NET (Jeff Chambers)
        Steve Cook <cook%arkle.decnet at cheme.tn.cornell.edu>
        John DeCarlo (jdecarlo%mdf at mitre.org)
        dw <Wegeng.Henr at Xerox.COM>
        Rick Kimball <rick at kimbal.lynn.ma.us>
        John R. Mellby (jmellby at ngstl1.ti.com)
        Roy Mengot (panzer at flopn2.csc.ti.com)
        Paul W. Placeway <pplaceway at BBN.COM>
        rice at zip.eecs.umich.edu (Brian Rice)
        Mark Stevens <stevens at stsci.edu>
        Chris Shenton <chris at asylum.gsfc.nasa.gov>
        Spencer (spencer at eecs.umich.edu)
        alexs at retix.retix.com (Alex M. Stein)
        pms at Sun.COM (Patrick Stirling) 
        Mark Stroup (ms56+ at andrew.cmu.edu)
        Gregg TeHennepe (gateh%CONNCOLL.BITNET at CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU)
        tim at Think.COM
        Tim Weil (Tim.Weil at f419.n109.z1.FIDONET.ORG)
        Andy Wilcox <andy at mosquito.cis.ufl.edu>
        noah at june.cs.washington.edu (Rick Noah Zucker)

- --Walt Thode (thode at nprdc.navy.mil)

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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 90 11:32:26 est
From: Chris Shenton <chris at asylum.gsfc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Kegging questions

I just acquired a number of (ab)used kegs, all made by Firestone. Some are
Coke/pin type and others Pepsi/ball type. The ball type seems a more
elegant design, plus the kegs are of smaller diameter and fit in my fridge
better. Some questions:

1. Can I swap lids from one to type to the other?
   They seem to fit well but I don't have CO2 yet, so can't do a leak-test.

2. What about pressure-release valves?
   Only two of the Pepsi lids I got have them, and none of the Coke ones do.

3. Cleaning?
   The tank itself looks like it wouldn't be too bad, but these kegs look
   neglected and the interior of the valves are coated with smeg; doesn't
   appear to be easy to tear them apart. Any suggestions?

TIA. I'm really looking forward to *not* bottling!
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Date: 26 Feb 90 17:23:06 PST (Mon)
From: florianb at tekred.cna.tek.com
Subject: re:	SN yeast

Chuck Cox says, in reply to John Mellby

>> Anyone know whether Sierra Nevada
>> uses the same yeast in Bigfoot and Celebration
>
>Yes they are the same, Sierra Nevada currently uses only one variety
>of yeast, however they are planning on brewing lagers soon.

Where do you get your information?  From their PR people?  And if so,
how can you trust them? 

Florian the doubting.


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