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Contents:
  carbonation and Roeselaere (KEITH R BUSBY)
  re: Not out of the woods... (Pat Babcock)
  Tour of Boags Brewery ("Grant")
  wha?  no more Prime Tabs? (Alan McKay)
  Wheat beers (William Richter)
  PrimeTabs (Demonick)


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Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 21:09:33 -0500
From: KEITH R BUSBY <kbusby at facstaff.wisc.edu>
Subject: carbonation and Roeselaere

I am running a bit behind with some brews I want to
serve at a function on July 31. I will be bottling 2
weeks before the event. This is usually pushing it a
bit, but I have been told I can speed up carbonation
by storing the bottled beer at a higher temperature
than usual (e.g., 80F)for a week or so. This makes
sense theoretically, but does anyone have any
experience?

TIA.

On another topic, I recenty brewed a batch of pseudo
Flanders Red with the Wyeast Roselaere. It seemed to
have an off-flavor (which was not lacto) and so I
dumped it and did another. Same result. I am anal
about sanitation and am convinced it is not infected
equipment. I have used the Roselaere before to good
effect, but not only did these batches seem to be
infected, they also seemed to have little sourness.

Keith

Keith Busby
Professor of French and Chair
Department of French and Italian
The University of Wisconsin
618 Van Hise Hall
Madison, WI 53706
(608) 262-3941
(608) 265-3892 (fax)



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Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 22:39:15 -0400
From: Pat Babcock <pbabcock at brew.hbd.org>
Subject: re: Not out of the woods...

Greetings, Beerlings! Take me to your lager...

stencil <etcs.ret at verizon.net> writes

> No luck, either, with receiving the HBD by e-mail...  On Saturday I
> un-fubbed,
> re-fubscribing again on Sunday, and was rewarded with HBD #4557.
> Since
> then,
> nada (two editions appeared on the web site in the interim.)  That
> one
> success, and the ongoing receipt of the Cheese Digest, make it
> unlikely
> that
> Verizon is filtering out things originating at <hbd.org>.
> 
> Umm, uh, is it something I said?

Yup. I'm well aware of the delivery issues with the HBD at present.
Interesting that you recived one immediately after resubbing - I'll have
to look into that phenomenon. In any case, the method used for the
"probe" appeared to have reached all subscribers, and I'm in the process
of developing a (less painful...) delivery process based on that. In the
meantime, please bear with and read on the web, rec.crafts.brewing, etc.
I _will_ restore email delivery; however, not before I can do so without
filling hte HBD server with garbage mail (shich the probe method,
unfortunately, did - it literally took days to clean up after that...)

See ya!

The Troll Beneath The HBD Bridge.


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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 21:19:56 +1000
From: "Grant" <gstott at primus.com.au>
Subject: Tour of Boags Brewery

G'day all,
When I finally had one digest come through I had hoped that they would
continue. I have this vain hope that posting may help trigger something.

To keep it beer related. Should anyone do a tour of the Boag's brewery in
Tasmania, it is probably not a good idea to ask the guide if 16 deg. C is a
bit warm to ferment lagers. Our guide certainly seemed a bit miffed.

p.s. Pat I appreciate your hard work keeping the digest going. If your ever
in these parts your welcome to a few beers on me.

Grant  Stott
[9906, 260] AR (statute miles) or [15942.2, 260] AR [Km]






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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 08:24:10 -0400
From: Alan McKay <amckay at neap.net>
Subject: wha?  no more Prime Tabs?


Huh?  No more Prime tabs in Canada?  Is this for real?
WHat's up with that, Domenick?

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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 05:25:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: William Richter <richterrex2004 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Wheat beers

Well again, I appreciate the HBD being back.

The reason I started homebrewing is because I love
wheat beers, which are either expensive or unavailable
here.  After making a few (terrible) extract weizens,
I started doing all-grain.  My first all-grain wheat
beer was awesome!

My favorite commercial example is Franzikaner, and I'd
like something along that line.  I'm a novice, but I
have a few all-grain brews and about 20 extract brews
under my belt.  I think I know about fermentation
temps and yeast selection.  I guess I'm looking for
recipes and hints for making all-grain hefeweizens. 
Thanks for any help you guys can provide.

William
Monterey, CA




		


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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 07:30:53 -0700
From: Demonick <demonick at zgi.com>
Subject: PrimeTabs


Brian Lundeen asks:
>Why Domenick, why? Do you hate Canadians or something? Are we not worthy
>of your little sugar pills? I tried contacting you by email many months
>ago about this and I never heard back from you, so maybe a little public
>prodding will get an answer out of you. Seriously, is your product
>available in Canada? I would really like to buy it, but not if I have to
>deal with customs and cross-border shipping costs. I'll batch prime with
>some table sugar before I go that route.

Thanks for y'all's interest in PrimeTab.

In answer to Brian's question - I am a flake.  The reality is that PrimeTab
barely makes expenses, even when sales were at their height.  My margins
are embarrassingly slim.  I am a one man shop.  Over the last year my REAL
job, the one that pays my bills and will finance my retirement, is taking
more and more of my time, attention, and energy.  The original business
plan called for me to get a wholesaler interested in the product, so I
would only have a few customers, and could survive with slim margins
through volume.  Despite repeated entreaties to the few major wholesalers I
have been rebuffed, and they have attempted competing products.

However, your interest has spurred me to some action, and I will clear my
backlog over the weekend.  

Thanks again,

Domenick




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