HOMEBREW Digest #4873 Tue 18 October 2005


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Contents:
  Valhalla-The Meading of Life - Results - Correction ("David Houseman")
  Greg's RC ("Spencer W. Thomas")
  "Kegbot" ... and beers which are corrosive to it?? (Bill Velek)
  Pyramidical (Tony.Steeper)
  Rennerian Coordinates calculator (Steve Jones)
  Berkshire County Homebrew association (stencil)
  Re: location (richard.s.sloan)
  Re: Post your location (Terry Felton)
  Using steel (Damon)
  Post Your Location (Dan Jeska)
  Big SS pot - or is it called a tank? (Calvin Perilloux)
  Apparent Rennerian ("Joe Aistrup")
  Location ("Brian Schar")
  Re: Post your location ("Larry")

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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:07:55 -0400 From: "David Houseman" <david.houseman at verizon.net> Subject: Valhalla-The Meading of Life - Results - Correction One correction to the prior results posting for Valhalla mead competition. Third place for category 24 A&B, Dry and Semi-sweet meads, was award to Ed Walkowski, Dalton, PA, not Christopher Boyd. We apologize for the error; we just picked up the wrong version of the typed results file. Dave Houseman Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:35:13 -0400 From: "Spencer W. Thomas" <spencer at spencerwthomas.com> Subject: Greg's RC Greg, I thought that Singapore was just about smack-on the equator. Google Earth tells me that the airport is 1 deg 21 min N, 103 deg 59 min E. The Rennerian calculator (http://hbd.org/franklin/other/rc.html) tells me that you're pretty far away: [9375.7, 348.8deg] =Spencer Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:18:36 -0500 From: Bill Velek <billvelek at alltel.net> Subject: "Kegbot" ... and beers which are corrosive to it?? Thought that all of my brewer friends on various forums would find this interesting, so I'm taking the liberty of cross-posting this a bit; I hope none of you mind. If this creates any problems, please let me know and I won't do it anymore. I don't recall seeing this posted on these forums, unless I just missed it somehow, but I came upon an interesting modification of a kegerator, called "Kegbot". It is a kegerator which has been modified to monitor how much beer is dispensed, when it is dispensed, to whom it is dispensed, etc. It does this with a linux system on a laptop, along with a flowmeter which measures the beer, and a system called "iButton" which requires individual users to access the Kegbot with a unique microchip 'key' of sorts (actually, its a small button). All very interesting, and I can see where this might be particularly useful in clubs and fraternal organizations where each member can help himself yet pays for the amount of beer he consumes. Here is the link: http://kegbot.org/ -- although this gives the impression that this is just some gadget for drunks holding drinking contests. However, I think that it really could have serious potential when used for the right purposes. This 'features page' is a bit more serious: http://tinyurl.com/86mxt ... or ... http://kegbot.org/project/features.php.html Here is a link to some photos: http://tinyurl.com/bpl9w ... or ... http://www.makezine.com/blog/archive/2005/07/_defcon_the_keg.html And this link -- http://tinyurl.com/b4azm ... is to a question/answer on its FAQ page which indicates that "Budwiser, Coors, and Miller are not used, as they are thought to be extremely corrosive to the sensitive beer hardware..." :-/ Heh, heh ... I assume that these guys are just discriminating beer drinkers, and that there really isn't anything in 'budmilloors' to do any damage to the system ... or is there? Cheers. Bill Velek, Greenbrier, Arkansas (USA) Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:36:08 +1000 From: <Tony.Steeper at csiro.au> Subject: Pyramidical A friend has just returned from the US and is raving about Pyramid HefeWeizen. I'd like to attempt a clone, having never tasted it myself and liking a challenge. I've gleaned that its 60% wheat malt, some crystal and Liberty hops but I'm unsure about the yeast. Some recipes suggest 1056 ale yeast but Michael Jackson thinks they use a lager yeast. Anyone got any hints about a yeast choice, or any other tips for brewing a PH? Cheers, Tony Steeper Bro Mash Canberra Brewers Club Captains Flat, New South Wales Australia Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 8:06:25 -0400 From: Steve Jones <stjones1 at chartertn.net> Subject: Rennerian Coordinates calculator Brian Levetzow (long time no see, Brian) wrote the RC calculator that is located on the HBD at http://hbd.org/rennerian_table.shtml. You get to it by clicking on HBD FAQ, scrolling down to the question 'Hey! What's this "Rennerian" stuff I hear about on the hbd?' and clicking on it. Near the end of the answer is a link to the calculator. Yes Greg - it can handle your 'outlandish' coordinates. Your brewery seems to be located at [10106.2 mi, 267.9 deg] Apparent Rennerian, assuming Jeff is at home. Steve Jones, Johnson City, TN State of Franklin Homebrewers (http://hbd.org/franklin) [421.7 mi, 168.5 deg] AR Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:48:39 -0400 From: stencil <etcs.ret at verizon.net> Subject: Berkshire County Homebrew association The yawning void between the Capital District and the Pioneer Valley is being filled: The Berkshire County Homebrew Association will hold its organizational meeting on Friday, November 18th at 5:30 PM at the Pittsfield Brew Works, 34 Depot Street, Pittsfield, Massachusetts. A tour of the brewery is planned. For further information, please e-mail <hbrewbeergeekATverizonDOTnet> stencil sends from Great Barrington 533.9, 87.2 AR (StMi) Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 08:09:51 -0700 From: richard.s.sloan at us.hsbc.com Subject: Re: location Richard Sloan Brewing in San Diego, California Daily reader of the HBD, but rare poster. No club affiliations but I sometimes drink with the guys in Foam on the Brain Favorite recipe - Mild w/ Rye - ----------------------------------------- *********************************************************************** This E-mail is confidential. It may also be legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you may not copy, forward, disclose or use any part of it. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and all copies from your system and notify the sender immediately by return E-mail. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be timely, secure, error or virus-free. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions. *********************************************************************** Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:30:24 -0400 From: Terry Felton <tdfelton at gmail.com> Subject: Re: Post your location Gee, am I the only one who took this post to be a suggestion that we each identify our location "when posting or responding" to this forum in the future, and not a request for an immediate response? The value of providing our locations is to enable alternate communications (phone, in person) or even direct assistance. I'm not afraid to let anyone know I live 30 miles south of Buffalo, but without any context, who really cares? Terry Felton Absolutely unconcerned about where Jeff Renner is relative to me. Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 10:10:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Damon <djyhm at yahoo.com> Subject: Using steel Hello, I have been trying to find some perforated stainless sheet metal to use in a large volume sparge apparatus I have built, but to no avail. Most dealers sell very large quantities and salvage yards have turned up nothing. They do, however, have perforated plain steel sheets. I have been searching high and low for info about using steel in the brewing process, but internet searches bring up mainly "stainless STEEL". Would using regular steel for this purpose be bad news? I think I remember coming across a post a few months back from someone who was still using a chipped enamel pot after visiting a brewery that had some steel involved somewhere in the process, but don't remember for sure. Any advice/references would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Damon Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:25:05 -0400 From: Dan Jeska <dan.jeska at gmail.com> Subject: Post Your Location Dan Jeska Prairieville, Michigan (84.9,277.3) Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:50:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Calvin Perilloux <calvinperilloux at yahoo.com> Subject: Big SS pot - or is it called a tank? Michael Eyre reports that he was given a big stainless steel pot, or at least something similar to a pot, perhaps more like a tank: > It's like a big pot on tripod legs, but hasn't got a opening > in the top. It's got a slightly rounded top and bottom and > straight walled sides, about 18" tall and the same diameter [...] > only three NPT fittings around the top of the vessel on > the sides and one NPT fitting near the bottom, on the side > as well (meaning the actual top and bottom are solid pieces > with no holes in 'em). Curious. I bet you could use that as a "hot liquor tank", though, to store your infusion/sparge water during mash brewing. If it's got the flame marks on the bottom, as you say, then it's obviously already been used to heat liquid. It wouldn't be as efficent as a well-insulated cooler, but it's free, right? The question might be, what's inside? Can you even peek in there? There could be heaps of mineral deposits, but who knows? > The tripod legs are only 6" tall, so I can't really get > a burner under it on my current brewery setup There are burners with a very low profile. I've got a three-ring burner that is only about 2 or three inches tall. You could also consider cutting an oval hole in the top for a cleanout, use a soda keg lid, and use one of the the upper outlets for an airlock, and have an unusual fermenter which drains from the almost-bottom outlet, thus leaving the yeast behind on the bottom. Not great for harvesting yeast, but it would work for racking the beer. The 1" stainless-steel tubing, by the way, is probably not that useful for chilling, in case you're thinking in that direction. Due to the wide diameter, there'd be too much flow per surface area (especially given laminar flow for normal flow rates at that diameter, instead of turbulent flow) for you to get good heat transfer. Calvin Perilloux Middletown, Maryland, USA (previously Staines, England previously Turrella, Australia previously Bondi Junction, Australia, previously Erding, Germany etc.) Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:31:40 -0500 From: "Joe Aistrup" <joe_aistrup at msn.com> Subject: Apparent Rennerian Hello from Manhattan, Kansas [3877.3, 338.7] Apparent Rennerian Joe Aistrup Little Apple Brew Crew Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:19:58 -0700 From: "Brian Schar" <schar at cardica.com> Subject: Location I'm at [2040.5, 273.6] apparent Rennerian, in Menlo Park, California. Brian Schar Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:15:19 -0400 From: "Larry" <lcooney at tampabay.rr.com> Subject: Re: Post your location Well now, I've been reading HBD for about three years or so now and I don't think I've ever posted anything! I live on the edge of the brewing universe in Winter Haven, Florida (right where three of the four hurricanes criss-crossed last year!) If I've done this correctly my Coordinates are [992.8, 172.6] Apparent Rennerian Statute. Larry Cooney Return to table of contents
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