HOMEBREW Digest #5062 Tue 19 September 2006

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  re: Beers for Women ("Chad Stevens")
  Mead Lover's Digest (Christopher Bartlett)
  RE: Mead Lover's Digest (Jason Henning)
  Valhalla Mead Only Competition ("David Houseman")
  Re: Beers for Women (Benjamin Low)
  re: beers for women (Linda Owens)
  mead, economics (Dylan Tack)
  Beer for women (Thomas Rohner)
  Pictures of Lupulin ("Jack Schmidling")

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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 20:36:19 -0700 From: "Chad Stevens" <zuvaruvi at cox.net> Subject: re: Beers for Women Alexandre, you missed the mark my friend! There's no point compromising...either she digs beer, or she doesn't. The desired end state for any brew geek engaged in courtship, is to not have to compromise your most primal brewing desires. This is why, when interviewing for the job (of mate), I made sure the second date included some brewing chore, preferably bottling...the most tedious part of brewing, but at least they got to sample the stuff. If she stuck with me through that, sticky floor and all, well THAT'S a match made in heaven. In the end, I married a woman who loves my brew as much as she loves the rest of me. But be forewarned, make sure your brewing prowess is up to the challenge; now I have to perform brewing shores to keep SWMBO happy! A labor of love to be sure, but I have to admit, she demands more than I can produce from time to time.... ;o) Chad Stevens QUAFF San Diego Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 21:05:44 -0700 From: Christopher Bartlett <bridgeweaver at khanfusion.net> Subject: Mead Lover's Digest I'm looking for subscription info for the mead lover's digest. Christopher Bartlett Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 06:58:26 -0400 From: Jason Henning <jason at thehennings.com> Subject: RE: Mead Lover's Digest From the MLD: NOTE: Digest appears when there is enough material to send one. Send ONLY articles for the digest to mead at talisman.com. Use mead-request at talisman.com for [un]subscribe/admin requests. Digest archives and FAQ are available at www.talisman.com/mead A searchable archive is available at www.gotmead.com/mead-research/mld Don't feel your subscription has failed if you don't get an issue every morning. The MLD comes about once a week, sometimes more often, sometimes not. Cheers, Jason Henning 24.3 east north east of Sackrider Hill Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 07:06:25 -0400 From: "David Houseman" <david.houseman at verizon.net> Subject: Valhalla Mead Only Competition Second posting and reminder of the Second Annual Valhalla - The Meading of Life mead-only competition, October 14, 2007, at the Iron Hill Restaurant and Brewery in West Chester, PA. All mead styles from the BJCP 2004 Style Guidelines will be judged. Entries are due by October 7th. Mail entries (two 12oz bottles or one 750ml bottle or the equivalent) can be sent to Home Sweet Homebrew (www.homesweethomebrew.com). Drop off locations locally at Home Sweet Homebrew, Keystone Homebrew Supply, Iron Hill West Chester, Brew Your Own Beer-Winemaking Too!, and Wine, Barley & Hops Homebrew Supply. Additional information can be found at www.valhalla-mead.com. Contact Suzanne McMurphy (mcmurphy at mail.med.upenn.edu) or Tim Ackerson (Theimann@verizon.net) for answers to questions about this competition. Judges are also sought and should contact David Houseman (david.houseman at verizon.net) to judge this event. A number have contacted me; that's great, but we still need a few more. Judges should be at Iron Hill West Chester by 9:00 am. We will conduct a brief mead judging refresher course for judges prior to the beginning of juding. Directions can be found at www.ironhillbrewery.com. Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 07:58:46 -0400 From: Benjamin Low <benjamin_low at brown.edu> Subject: Re: Beers for Women My wife claims to like all my beers, but I notice that she regularly drinks my bitters, pilsners, Belgian wits, saisons, Belgian goldens, and tripels (esp. ones with less yeast character), and avoids IPAs, stouts, porters, browns. She definitely seems to prefer beers with lighter color and lighter (perceived) body and flavor. The only beer of mine she really didn't like was a rauchbier. She also likes fruit beers, though I haven't yet made any myself (when she goes with me to the package store she always picks up Unibroue's Ephemere). At the Natl. Homebrewer's Conference in Orlando she had a Poblano wit, made by Jeff Gladish, that she liked so much she actually wanted to brew it herself, though she has never had any interest in brewing before. I've noticed similar tastes among many of my female friends and family members, and I wonder if perhaps they simply don't like beers with a strong "beer" taste, whether that is hops, roasted flavors, strong malt flavors, yeast flavors etc. Color and the perception of "heaviness" also seems important - for instance, I've noticed that my wife and others think a dry stout is "heavier" than a Bohemian pilsner, and my objective evidence to the contrary does nothing to change their minds. This could also explain why most women I know seem to like fruit beers. It offers a flavor and aroma that is both familiar and un-"beer"-like. All anecdotal evidence to be sure, but it seems to confirm what you and Kevin have perceived. Ben Low Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 10:44:27 -0500 From: Linda Owens <lkowens at uiuc.edu> Subject: re: beers for women I'm a woman and posts like this make me bristle. I'm not picking on you Alexandre, you're asking a question that has been asked repeatedly on every beer forum I participate in. I have two responses to it though. 1. If someone isn't into beer, why try to change that person's mind? Let her drink what she wants. Why do so many craft beer drinkers insist that it is their obligation to educate other drinkers? 2. If there is a particular woman in your life you want to share beer with, ask her what she likes. Don't make a blanket generalization about all women, then ask a forum that is largely made up of men what women like (didn't Freud already do that?). Kevin Gray's observations were anecdotal and should not be generalized to all women. They refer only to his experiences. I know many women who are into beer and like big beers, hoppy beers, strong beers, etc. Personally, I detest fruit beers and fruity American wheat beers. I'm also not a big fan of wit beers. I'd prefer a St. Bernardus Abt 12 or a Blackout Stout any day over beers that are often considered "women's beers." Linda Champaign, IL Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 11:46:30 -0500 From: Dylan Tack <dylan at io.com> Subject: mead, economics > From: "Michael Kolaghassi" <kolaghassi89 at hotmail.com> > Subject: New to brewing and currently making some mead (need some > answers) > > it with the must I woke up the next day to find that it had ALOT of an > orangish thick foam and it got into my airlock turning the water > yellowish, > spurting out some drops. While I have never brewed with baker's yeast before, lots of foam isn't unusual. It just means you have a healthy, active fermentation. > OH and how long will it take before I can drink it (I really > don't mind > aging right now, this is an experimental first batch)? Conventional wisdom seems to be 1 year minimum, and this fits with my experience. But someone recently posted a method of incremental nutrient additions that will result in a drinkable product much faster. Check out the digest from a few days/weeks ago. > And what would the > approximate ABV be? I used about 3.5lbs of honey.. About 13% ABV, *IF* we make a couple assumptions: - -- your honey was 80% sugar (typical) - -- the yeast will consume 80% of the sugar (real attenuation), which is reasonable if there is enough nutrients for the yeast, and they are sufficiently alcohol tolerant. > From: "A.J deLange" <ajdel at cox.net> > Subject: Homebrewing Economics > > but then someone mentions the NRE. I'm still at the hundreds of $ a > pint > level and I've got to get that number down. I can't stop either! I had to look up NRE - non-recurring expenses? Please tell me that's a typo! Or is your brew kettle made of platinum? ;) For me though, it's funny how those expenses keep recurring anyway. Just when I think I'm "set for life" equipment wise, I find some new brew gadget I just have to have, or my refrigerator breaks down. Still, I think my equipment cost averages about $1/pint over my homebrewing career. -Dylan Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 19:24:41 +0200 From: Thomas Rohner <t.rohner at bluewin.ch> Subject: Beer for women Hello Alexandre i have found out, that it's mostly a question of bitterness. This coincides with your observation that women don't like IPA's. My girlfriend was a absolute no-beer case, until i showed her some beers like a belgian "forbidden fruit" (residual sweetness, low bitterness) or my wheatbeers, (with and without raspberries). From my experience the strength is not that important. (although she likes most of my stronger brews, maybe because they have lots of residual sweetness) I also gave her some low-hopped beers for cooking. (the bitterness concentrates if the water evaporates in a sauce for example) (She owns/operates a gourmet cooking school) A nice munich helles is a good candidate as well. But then, not all women are created equal, it's only a tendency i observed. Cheers Thomas Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 13:37:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jack Schmidling" <jack at schmidling.com> Subject: Pictures of Lupulin http://schmidling.com/pow.htm js - -- PHOTO OF THE WEEK: http://schmidling.com/pow.htm Astronomy, Beer, Cheese, Fiber,Gems, Sausage,Silver http://schmidling.com Return to table of contents
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