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Contents:
  Belgian candi sugar (again) ("Larry")
   (Help Desk)
  2009 Coconut Cup (Scott Graham)


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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 08:05:07 -0500
From: "Larry" <larrymax at bellsouth.net>
Subject: Belgian candi sugar (again)

Sorry for bringing up a topic--Belgian "candi" sugar--that has
been discussed many times here, but the queue is short  and
maybe someone can add to what has been noted before.

You see, I am an American who is in Belgium at the moment
(yes, sampling great beer among other things), and it occurred 
to me that I might bring back a bag of candi sugar and try my
hand at brewing an abbey style, which is something I have 
never done.  To back up a notch, I have been brewing less and
less over the 15 or so years since I began in the hobby 
(and following HBD less and less, I'm afraid) because the kinds
of beers I enjoy have become more available.  So, I have 
felt that I could more easily buy a great Belgian beer than attempt
one myself.

Anyway, every supermarket has bags of what is labeled "candi"
sugar, but it isn't clear to me whether any of these is what a brewer
is to use. My only experience with "candi" sugar has been seeing it
in homebrew shops in crystalline or syrup form at fairly high prices
(considering it's just sugar).  Now, the majority of the stuff labeled
"candi" sugar in Belgian supermarkets looks, feels, tastes and is
priced every bit like the ordinary brown sugar that is available in 
every US supermarket.  This candi sugar is available in light and
dark varieties, just like brown sugar back in the US. Candi sugar
in syrup form is also available in Belgian supermarkets, and I am
told that it is commonly used as a topping for pancakes.  Candi
sugar in chunky crystalline form is available as well, but it appears
to be like that which is available in the US simply as an esthetically
pleasing way to add the same sort of brown sugar to one's coffee
or tea. Which of these, if any, is what I need for brewing abbey
beers?  Or is what I am seeing simply the same thing as what we
in the US and elsewhere call "brown" sugar, and brewing sugar is
something else entirely?  If so, then the term "candi" is meaningless
for our purposes.

I bought a bag of a dark brown granulated candi sugar and tasted
it.  Although I didn't do a side-by-side comparison, my initial
impression is that the taste is indistinguishable to me from what we
in the US call "brown sugar."  It looks, feels and tastes like the
ordinary, inexpensive brown sugar to which I have long been
accustomed in the US.  Of course, it's difficult to distinguish
for people to distinguish chemical subtleties in sugar that may be
readily apparent to the yeast.

This leads me to ask what the difference is between "candi" and
"brown" sugars.  Other than those labeled "candi" sugar, there are
no other sugars that are brownish in color in typical Belgian
supermarkets.  What exactly, then, does the word  "candi" signify
in this context?  Does it simply mean the same thing to Belgians as
"brown" means to Americans?  My other questions regarding the
differences, if any, are those that have been asked and replied to
many times, on HBD and elsewhere.  It's likely, for example, that
the candi sugar that I find here is made from beets, not sugar cane.
Is it possible then for "candi" sugar made from cane to exist?  Or
is beet sugar a defining characteristic?  I have also seen references
to "invert" sugar, to the effect that true candi sugar used in Belgian
abbey style beers must be invert sugar.  As you may know, some
homebrewers have suggested adding citric acid or lemon juice to
produce invert sugar.  But other comments I have seen suggest
that invert is not a defining characteristic, i.e., there can exist candi
sugar that is not invert sugar.

Are the bags of candi sugar I see here invert sugar or not?  Is this
sugar what the brewers here use or not?  What does "candi" as the
term is used here in Belgium really signify, especially vis-a-vis the
term "brown" as used in the US or elsewhere?  And lastly, the big
question to which I have never seen an authoritative answer: labels
like "candi" and "brown" aside, exactly what kind of sugar do the
abbey brewers use, and how can I obtain it?  I have ordered the
"Brew Like a Monk" book, which I am told may have answers,
but I am sure the HBD gurus have equally good, if not more
scientific, knowledge. 


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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:52:14 -0500 (EST)
From: Scott Graham <grahams at cs.fiu.edu>
Subject: 2009 Coconut Cup


Greetings from the members of the Miami Area Society of Homebrewers (MASH) 
in Miami, FL.

It is almost time for this year's Coconut Cup homebrew competition. We are 
accepting all of the BJCP categories, as well as our special COCONUT BREW 
category.

Entries are due between January 26th and February 6th. Please use the 
on-line entry form available at the Coconut Cup website, 
http://www.miami-homebrew.org/coconut.html .

Final judging will take place on February 20th and 21st, 2009. Please 
contact me if you are interested in judging. We will have some fun 
activities planned for out-of-town judges.

I hope to see you (or at least your beers and meads) in Miami!

Scott Graham
Coconut Cup Judge Coordinator
[1159.9, 169.3] Apparent Rennerian



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