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Contents:
  Re: flat beer [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] ("Williams, Rowan")
  Call for entries in the FRANKLINSTEIN Homebrew Competition (compdirector)
  Greg Noonan passes at age 58 (donniestyle)
  IPA Help (Antony)
  IPA ("Spencer W. Thomas")


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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:31:23 +1100
From: "Williams, Rowan" <Rowan.Williams at ag.gov.au>
Subject: Re: flat beer [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Hi Fred,
Is the purpose of your experiment to see if you can carbonate beer
 or carbonate the beer reasonably quickly?

Unless you have filtered your beer before bottling or kegging you
simply cannot preclude the possibility that some yeast will be
present in the bottle.  Do you leave the beer in the fermenter for
a month or so at very low temps to brighten the beer??

I'm sure your innoculation method will add more yeast to the
bottled beer, and perhaps your water helps flocc out the yeast
in solution, but I've never had to do anything like that and I cant
recall when I had a flat beer bottle over the last 14 years...

Cheers,
Rowan
Canberra Brewers Club, Australia

[9588.6, 261.5] AR (statute miles)

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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 10:01:05 -0600
From: compdirector at franklinbrew.org
Subject: Call for entries in the FRANKLINSTEIN Homebrew Competition

The State of Franklin Homebrewers are proud to announce the birth of  
the FRANKLINSTEIN Homebrew Competition on November 14, 2009.

This is a BJCP sanctioned event accepting entries in all BEER  
categories ? 1 to 23. Sorry, no meads or ciders, but this event will  
feature a special category ... Category 29: MONSTER Beers! No, these  
aren't the big or the extreme, but in keeping with the image of  
Frankenstein, these beers are made up of pieces and parts of other  
styles. Why not just enter category 23, you ask? Because the brewer of  
the highest scoring beer (6% ABV or less) in this category will be  
invited to Depot Street Brewery in Jonesborough, TN to assist Michael  
in brewing a commercial batch of this beer!

The entry window will be open from Oct 26 thru Nov 7, $6 for the 1st  
entry and $5 for additional entries. All beers will be judged by at  
least one qualified BJCP judge. Registration is ONLINE only ...  
entrants, judges, stewards, and beer are all online registration. Get  
the details at http://www.franklinbrew.org


  Any and all proceeds from this event will be contributed to the  
Second Harvest Food Bank.

Steve Jones
State of Franklin Homebrewers
Johnson City, TN





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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:49:14 -0500 (CDT)
From: donniestyle at directlink.net
Subject: Greg Noonan passes at age 58

Hello all.  It's sad that Greg Noonan passed away so young.  Let's all
raise a pint of our finest lager to Greg.  Greg's book helped me win many
awards.  I did get to meet him at the Bluebonnet Brew Off when he was our
Key Note Speaker.  Is there any interest in sponsoring a HBD memorial for
him?

Don Trotter



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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:15:09 +0100
From: Antony <anthayes at btinternet.com>
Subject: IPA Help

Various comments on IPA ingredients. Note that for British IPAs,  
crystal should not be part of the grist.

Crystal malt wasn't around when IPAs were at their peak. Crystal  
marked the beginning of Bitter as a style.

Low colour pale malt is what you need.

Ant Hayes
Tonbridge, Kent


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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:35:42 -0400
From: "Spencer W. Thomas" <hbd at spencerwthomas.com>
Subject: IPA

Ant writes:
> Note that for British IPAs,  
> crystal should not be part of the grist.
> 
> Crystal malt wasn't around when IPAs were at their peak.

Of course, if you're going for historical accuracy, you need to read Ron 
Pattinson on IPA vs PA, where he finds that they totally overlap in OG 
and bittering. The beauty of Ron's work is that he is mining data from 
old brewing logs, which are totally devoid of romanticizing and 
politicizing, and report "just the facts."

See <http://barclayperkins.blogspot.com/search/label/IPA>, especially these:
http://barclayperkins.blogspot.com/2009/01/difference-between-pa-and-ipa.html 

http://barclayperkins.blogspot.com/2009/02/another-nail-in-that-ipa-myth.html
http://barclayperkins.blogspot.com/2008/09/ipa-strong-beer.html
http://barclayperkins.blogspot.com/2008/09/ipa-1815-1850.html
http://barclayperkins.blogspot.com/2009/02/trumans-ales-1831-1832.html

=Spencer


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