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	FORUM ON BEER, HOMEBREWING, AND RELATED ISSUES
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Contents:
  Re: PB stout (kmorgan1)
  Why ZERO hydrogenated oils? (Calvin Perilloux)
  Houseman on Coconut Oil/PB Stout/FermCap Analogy? ("Rob Moline")


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Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 00:50:28 -0500
From: kmorgan1 at localnet.com
Subject: Re: PB stout

Here is a link to a source for PB flavor extract

http://www.naturesflavors.com/product_info.php?cPath=156&products_id=5750

I have not used their stuff, just found the site.



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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 06:05:00 -0800 (PST)
From: Calvin Perilloux <calvinperilloux at yahoo.com>
Subject: Why ZERO hydrogenated oils?

Steve (Laycock?) reports:

>> I always use organic natural peanut butter that 
>> has ZERO hydrogenated oils.

Are there problems in the brewing process (or finished beer)
that hydrogenated oils would cause?  I don't see where these
would act much differently than processed oils, but maybe I'm
missing something.

Calvin Perilloux
Middletown, Maryland, USA



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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 14:45:30 -0600
From: "Rob Moline" <jethrogump at suddenlink.net>
Subject: Houseman on Coconut Oil/PB Stout/FermCap Analogy?

     Houseman on Coconut Oil/PB Stout/FermCap Analogy?

Gotta agree with Dave.every instance I can think of where warning was given
on poor head retention being an outcome of brewing with oily ingredients has
been followed by an opposite observation of great head.
Even brewing with 50 pounds of hemp seeds so oily, we had to dissassenble
the mill several times to ensure feeding the mill, head retention was great.
But, 
I think Dave has hit on the key point, adding  at  end of boil, or towards the
end. It reminds me of FermCap use.added in the boil, or in fermentation, it
adds to retention by keeping retention proteins in the brew, and not stuck
to the interior of your vessel. 
As for flavour impact, of course, adding to the serving tank.or keg ,
racking or serving.or even to the finished pint glass would offer the
greatest taste, but  at  the sacrifice of retention.though I have added FC to a
7 bbl server to combat foam when it was expedient.such as de-foaming during
nirogen purging to strip excessive CO2.
YMMV.
JethroGump

Rob Moline
Danstar/Lallemand
jethrogump at suddenlink.net

Please note new address.




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