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Contents:
  RE:  Bittering a pils ("David Houseman")
  Hops for Pils ("A.J deLange")


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Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 07:21:22 -0400
From: "David Houseman" <david.houseman at verizon.net>
Subject: RE:  Bittering a pils

Rowan,

For Pils, I've used Spalt, Hallertau and other noble hops.  These are very 
high alpha but higher than Saaz.   I've also used Cluster and Centennial and 
Northern Brewer since there is little to no hop aroma/flavor from bittering 
hops.   To cut down on tannins/astringency, I've always chosen not to use a 
lot of low alpha hops for bittering but much less of a high alpha hop 
instead to achieve the same IBUs.

David Houseman



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Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 08:57:13 -0400
From: "A.J deLange" <ajdel at cox.net>
Subject: Hops for Pils

Can I recommend a good bittering hop for a Pils? No. What follows is,  
of course, my opinion and other respondents may have differing ones.  
What drives me nuts about many a craft brewed Pils is that they try to  
do exactly what you apparently want to do and wind up ruining the beer  
because high alpha hops deliver a harsh, scratchy (a member of my  
brewing club used that term last Sat. - never heard it before but it's  
good), gagging bitterness which is just what you don't want in a Pils.  
There is a reason, of course, that the commercial ops have to do this.  
If then went 35-45 IBU with Saaz they would have to charge so much for  
the beer you probably wouldn't buy it. The difference between pro's  
and us is that we don't have to make a profit. So what I am getting at  
is don't think about using a high alpha bittering hop in your Pils -  
use Saaz for bittering and aroma/flavor. I think you'll be glad you did.

Now there is one caveat that goes with this: you must control sulfate.  
Ideally it should be below 10 mg/L. Go much above that and the sulfate  
will destroy that fine bitterness that noble hops lend. You will have  
wasted your money on the noble hops in this case and might as well  
use  a higher alpha cultivar.

Cheers, A.J.


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