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	FORUM ON BEER, HOMEBREWING, AND RELATED ISSUES
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Contents:
  Implication to lagers? (Bob Hall)
  Re: Implication to lagers? ("Spencer W. Thomas")
  SD Internation Beer Festival ("Chad Stevens")


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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 11:42:23 -0400
From: Bob Hall <rallenhall at henry-net.com>
Subject: Implication to lagers?

In his post of June 9 regarding the brewing of Berliner weiss, 
Stephen Jorgensen states "I was told that in Germany they do not .... 
mash out because the DMS precursors are not formed below 70C.  The 
mash and the wort are never taken above saccharification temps at 
all." If this is true, should the mash of any Continental lager 
undergo a mash-out?

Bob Hall
Napoleon, OH



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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:59:20 -0400
From: "Spencer W. Thomas" <hbd at spencerwthomas.com>
Subject: Re: Implication to lagers?

Bob Hall asks about whether the no-mash-out regime for Berliner Weiss 
should also extend to lagers in general.

Bob, the key factor is that Berliner Weiss worts are also *not boiled*, 
thus the wort never gets above 70C if you don't mash out, and the DMS 
precursors are not formed. Also, since BW worts are traditionally not 
boiled, there is no chance to boil out any DMS that might be formed.

Lager worts are boiled, thus formation of DMS precursors during mash out 
is not an issue, because if they weren't formed during mash out, they 
will form during the boil (and continue on to form DMS, which will be 
boiled out.)

=Spencer in Ann Arbor


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Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 11:32:42 -0700
From: "Chad Stevens" <zuvaruvi at cox.net>
Subject: SD Internation Beer Festival

The San Diego International Beer Festival is this coming weekend: June 
25th-27th. 388 beers from 156 breweries in 22 countries. $30, unlimited 
samples...four 4 hour sessions over the three days.

>From the materials:

"Club ONLY tasting session for brewery reps and club members only!!
First shot at all the beer!  Must be purchased in advance by calling
858-792-4207."

This gets you in at 3p - an hour early - on Friday the 25th.

Beer list is at: http://zuvaruvi.com

Hope to see you there!

Chad Stevens
http://beercommando.com 




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