HOMEBREW Digest #5988 Wed 02 January 2013

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  Re: Dogfish Head Indian Brown Clone ("David Houseman")
  re: Spiced Winter Ale ("Jeff McNally")
  Dogfish Head Indian Brown Clone (Littleboybrew)
  Re: sparkling mead (Joe Germani)
  RE: Dogfish clone ("Mike Patient")

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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2013 07:25:35 -0500 From: "David Houseman" <david.houseman at verizon.net> Subject: Re: Dogfish Head Indian Brown Clone Tom asks for a recipe for a clone of Dogfish Head Indian Brown Ale. /on soapbox In my opinion there is such a thing as a clone of a beer. A clone would imply that if you tasted the original and the clone side-by-side they would be identical. I will assert that NO RECIPE for homebrewers can yield that sort of consistency. This is especially true when you try to make an extract example of an original all-grain beer, or vice-versa. HB recipes do not have sufficient detail nor do homebrewers have sufficient process control to create clones. In fact does any brewery? However, you can make excellent beer "inspired by" the original. That means understanding the specs of the original beer, understanding how ingredients (malt, hops, yeast, water) affect the aroma/flavor of beer, and understanding your specific brewing system. Get appropriate books, such as Ray Daniel's Designing Great Beers, and brewing software, like ProMash, and create recipes that work with your brewing system and is inspired by the beers you like. With several attempts you may get very close to the original. But don't expect that any recipe you find for Dogfish Head Indian Brown Ale will enable you to actually clone that (or any) beer. /off soapbox Return to table of contents
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 08:19:10 -0500 From: "Jeff McNally" <jeff_ri at cox.net> Subject: re: Spiced Winter Ale Hi All, In HBD #5986 Joseph Labeck asked about increasing the spice character of his winter ale. If you are using the dried orange peel normally sold in homebrew shops, you need to boil it for 15 or 20 minutes to extract the flavor from it. If you add it right at the end, you won't get much of anything from it. Jeff McNally Tiverton, RI (652.2 miles and 90.0 degrees Apparent Rennerian Coordinates) www.southshorebrewclub.org Return to table of contents
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2013 07:41:16 -0600 From: Littleboybrew <littleboybrew at verizon.net> Subject: Dogfish Head Indian Brown Clone Tom, A search turned up this clone recipe. Hope it is useful. http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/indian-brown-ale-dogfish-head-48622/ Kevin Return to table of contents
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 15:03:25 -0800 From: Joe Germani <joe at germani.org> Subject: Re: sparkling mead I think that Darrel is right, after all that time either there is not enough yeast left, or it's just too weak to do much in such a high alcohol environment. After a long aging period, it's a good idea to pitch some fresh yeast at bottling time. With it already bottled, you can still add some yeast though. I've done this before (twice so far, but in beer) and it has worked reasonably well. The key is to pitch some ACTIVE yeast. I did an experiment with just putting dry yeast in, and it didn't help. Here's how I did it. Make a yeast starter with some dry malt extract; sugar or honey will probably do. Pitch some yeast. Dry yeast works just fine, the type of yeast doesn't matter much, it won't impart any flavor, but you'll probably want an alcohol tolerant variety. Once it is actively fermenting, bubbling and producing some foam (should take several hours), open each bottle, one at a time, and add some of the actively fermenting yeast starter. A sanitized straw works well for this (think pipetting). I don't know exactly how much starter I added, but it was more than a few drops. Recap each bottle after adding yeast with a fresh, sanitized, cap. Of course, it's much easier with the swing tops. Joe in Seattle Return to table of contents
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 18:39:40 -0500 From: "Mike Patient" <mpatient at rta.biz> Subject: RE: Dogfish clone There is a book called "extreme brewing" that was put out by dogfish head and contains the India Brown clone. All are extract recipes that have all grain equivalents. I don't think they are the actual recipes, but most are close. Mike Return to table of contents
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