HOMEBREW Digest #3448 Tue 10 October 2000

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  Any brewers in Fairbanks AK??? ("N.A. Campiglia III")
  re: flow-driven stirring for immersion chiller (John_E_Schnupp)
  re: Nasty, wet spent grains and freezing weather... (John_E_Schnupp)
  First all-grain+First yeast culture ("dr smith")
  more mash hopping (Marc Sedam)
  Re: harshness in beer (Jeff Renner)
  Sanitizing Rubber Stoppers (ksc58)
  Mail order shops and Counter pressure fillers (Dan Listermann)
  grain composting (Jim Liddil)
  ginger and cider (Jessica Umphress)
  Counter Pressure Bottle Filler Reccomendation (Dryw Blanchard)
  Correction--Homebrewed Towels ("Richard B. Dulany Jr.")
  "dry minting" ("S. SNYDER")
  Glycol substitute ("Houseman, David L")
  Spent Grain Disposal (Richard Foote)
  Water analysis confusion (Tim  Burkhart)
  Dubbel ("Russ Hobaugh")
  SAAZ Octoberfest ("Lenhart, Jacob")
  all grain virgin (Beaverplt)
  Temperature Meters (Rod Prather)
  A site I found, but lost ("Shane A. Saylor, Eccentric Bard")
  Cyser....kind of. (Christopher Sprague)
  Chicago Area Brew Clubs ("Mike Pensinger")
  Spent Grains in Winter (Todd Goodman)
  composting spent grains (Darrel Harris)
  Is my juniper safe? ("Jon Sandlin")
  Fw: Brewpubs in San Diego & Santa Barbara, CA? ("jwhite")

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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 23:50:51 -0500 From: "N.A. Campiglia III" <spitdrvr at camalott.com> Subject: Any brewers in Fairbanks AK??? I'm moving to Fairbanks in Jan 01, any brewers on here from there?? Nick Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 00:03:41 -0700 From: John_E_Schnupp at amat.com Subject: re: flow-driven stirring for immersion chiller From: Roy Roberts <psilosome at yahoo.com> >I've thought about inserting a Y-fitting into the >input of the chiller to drive a propeller type >stirring paddle with an inline valve to allow control <snip> >Comments or suggestions? Has anyone built anything >like this? Roy, This has been discussed before on the list. I don't recall ever hearing that anyone actually built one. I made a stirrer that uses a DC motor. I mounted the motor to the lid of the pot. I attached a small fan blade to the motor. To do that I had to use some tubing and threaded rod (I used brass). I use a variable DC supply to vary the voltage/speed of the fan. Direction is changed by swapping the +/- wires to the motor. You don't need to run it very fast, just enough to see the wort barely moving around. Cheap ascii art follows John Schnupp, N3CNL Dirty Laundry Homebrewery Georgia, VT 95 XLH 1200 | motor mounted | |to brew pot lid| |______ ______| | | | | < motor shaft | | || || || || ||o|| < drill hole thru tubing/shaft use screw || || to attach the two pieces. | | | | < brass tubing | | ||\|| ||\|| ||o|| < hole, same as above. If you drill several ||\|| holes in tubing you can adjust "height" of ||\|| the fan blade stirrer |\| |\| < brass threaded rod |\| |\| _____|||||______// < plastic fan blade, attach to threaded // ||||| rod by drilling in center of blade and using a two nuts. Sandwich the blade between the nuts and tighten Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 00:03:49 -0700 From: John_E_Schnupp at amat.com Subject: re: Nasty, wet spent grains and freezing weather... From: Some Guy <pbabcock at hbd.org> >Do I put them in a couple of garbage bags and >hope for the best with the Sanitation Engineering Brigade? Do I spread >them on the street as a traction aid? I like the traction aid idea. For myself, I just toss my spent grains into the woods. The squirrels, birds, mice and various other varmint probably enjoy the treat. Not often they find free food in the winter. John Schnupp, N3CNL Dirty Laundry Homebrewery Georgia, VT 95 XLH 1200 Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 11:53:23 GMT From: "dr smith" <drsmithhm at hotmail.com> Subject: First all-grain+First yeast culture Hi everyone - I just completed my first all-grain batch, and I started my yeast bank at the same time. This is just a note about how things went, what I did, and observations - if you are looking for earth-stopping questions, page down. I formulated the following recipe to clean up some older partial mash ingredients had laying around: 6lbs Weissheimer Munich Malt 1lb Vienna Malt(german? or uk? - don't have specifics right here in front of me) 1lb Munton's 2 row 4oz Munton's roasted barley 4oz Munton's chocolate malt 1oz Centennial(60 min.) 0.5oz Fuggle(aroma) 0.5oz EKG(aroma) Wyeast Irish Ale yeast. Notes: I had planned an 80% efficiency(OG 1.045) and got 1.042. Infusion mash temp was planned to be 152 and got 154 in reality. Except for the cold and the (small amount) of rain that fell during the boil, everything went smoothly. I did end up doing a 5/6 cover during the boil after the big foam up, but that was mostly to keep rain from falling into the wort. The cover didn't appear to affect evaporation much - started with 6 gallons and ended up with 5. For anyone out there contemplating going all-grain, I have some advice. First, get a 38qt pot, minimum. While I was doing partial mashes, I could start out at about 4.5 gallons(2 qts to contain the initial foam!), but would always end up topping-up in the fermentor. It made gravity calculations "interesting" if you know what I mean. Now, I can do the full boil and I have just enough space for the foam up. Also, doing some partial mashes before jumping all the way to all-grain in one shot helps to get the numbers in line. For everyone contemplating the automatic mill that seems to be in all the shops right now, I used it for the first time this weekend and I have some comments. First, if you don't have impulses to suddenly ram your hand, fingers first, into the mill - remove the finger guard. I couldn't get the grain to flow past the guard very well with it in place. Removing it was the best thing I did. Secondly, the middle setting on the mill passes a lot of uncrushed grain and the finest setting on the mill seems to give the 'perfect crush' if you're milling in single- passes. I milled twice - once on the middle setting and once on the next finer setting. Without the finger guard, it did a pretty decent job and I would definately purchase again if I ever needed to. Finally, I did culture the yeast onto some slants for future batches. Thanks to everyone again who helped with my questions. My pressure canner is now my favorite toy since previously, my best attempts at making plates produced all kinds of funky mold. Now that my techinique is down, I can finally start plating up some bottle-conditioned beers. --drsmith _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 08:24:23 -0400 From: Marc Sedam <marc_sedam at unc.edu> Subject: more mash hopping I've been getting some good feedback on mash hopping both here and in other threads over the past few weeks. I've come up with a few corollaries... 1) Water chemistry might have an effect. I'm guessing it's related to the pH of the mash. I have very soft water and my mashes all settle in right around 5.4. People with similar water seem to really enjoy mash hopping. 2) A few of my MH'd beers were a bit on the sweet side. I'm going to try bumping up the bittering charge by 1.2X to get more bittering. 3) Leaf hops don't seem to work nearly as well. My theory is that very little of the oils escape from the leaf into the mash at the lower temps. Pellets work very well and the most fervent supporters seem to use pellets more frequently. 4) Noble hops and their progeny (Ultra, Mt. Hood, Liberty, Crystal) seem to work best for MHing. I haven't tried many of the British hops, but the American hops don't appear to do well. Looking for feedback. Tell me what you've experienced. Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 09:20:28 -0400 From: Jeff Renner <nerenner at umich.edu> Subject: Re: harshness in beer Peter Gunczy asks about harshness in beer I think the problem is probably linked to oversparging, especially with high pH water. This is the most likely cause, and I wouldn't look to the metal parts of your setup. The amount of sparge water used is not as important, I think, as the gravity and pH of the runoff. You should keep it below 6.0 and above 1.010 or so. No need to treat the sparge water with minerals, just the mash water, as it is so soft that it is probably not very alkaline even though the pH is high. Treating with lactic acid is not a bad idea, but don't overdo it. Perhaps phosphoric acid would suit you better. To hit your target gravity with less sparging you'll probably need more malt. Malt is cheap, especially when compared to beer that you don't like. Jeff - -- -=-=-=-=- Jeff Renner in Ann Arbor, Michigan USA, c/o nerenner at umich.edu "One never knows, do one?" Fats Waller, American Musician, 1904-1943 Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:10:50 -0400 (EDT) From: ksc58 <kcada at cas.org> Subject: Sanitizing Rubber Stoppers I'm planning on using a glass container that has a 4 inch mouth for a primary fermenter using a 1 inch blow-off. I've got a No. 16 rubber stopper (yeah, they actually make such a thing!) but I need to know if there's a good way to sanitize this rubber stopper surface since this will result in about a dozen square inches of it being in contact with the fermenting wort head. The stopper itself is very smooth and I don't mind if it becomes discolored in the process, but I do want it to last for numerous batches. Iodophor and boiling come to mind, but I'm wide open for suggestions. Regards, Ken Cada Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:01:24 -0400 From: Dan Listermann <72723.1707 at compuserve.com> Subject: Mail order shops and Counter pressure fillers As long as everyone is plugging mail order shops, I would like to put in a word about our shop "Listermann Brewery Supply." We have recently gone mail order and can be found at ( guess what ?) www.listermann.com . Be there or be square. Warren White (warrenw63 at hotmail.com) asks about commercially produced counterpressure fillers Down Under. Give E.S.B. Home Brewing Supplies in Peakhurst a call at 61 2 9584 3372. They have access to the CounterPhil produced by Listermann Mfg. Its unique three-way valve with check valve design cut the steps required to fill bottles in half compared to conventional designs. I don't recall Mel Robson ordering one, but he can get one on his next order. Dan Listermann Check out our new E-tail stie at www.listermann.com! Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 08:32:26 -0700 (MST) From: Jim Liddil <jliddil at VMS.ARIZONA.EDU> Subject: grain composting > Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 11:14:40 -0400 (EDT) > From: Some Guy <pbabcock at hbd.org> > Subject: Nasty, wet spent grains and freezing weather... > > Having been a warm weather brewer all these years, my new brewing setup > has thrown me into a bit of a quandary: What do I do with the spent grains > now that the lawn is frozen? If I try to compost them, they're going to I don't have quite as big a freezing problem. But I do have a boggy region around my compost pile. I went to the local town woodchip pile and surrounded the pile with chips. And when I need to dump stuff I put on my rubber boots and slog my way to it. And once "spring" comes it is a good idea to turn the pile to get it aerated and this will help reduce the odor. Also you can use leaves to act as layers. We ahd lots of rain here this summer and by keeping the pile turned on a regular basis I got great compost and little odor. Jim Liddil North Haven, CT Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:43:06 -0500 From: Jessica Umphress <umphress at fieldmuseum.org> Subject: ginger and cider Greetings from a newbie! With the first snowfall of the year pelting us folks here in Chicago on Saturday, it seemed the best thing to do on Sunday was hunker down, get the apartment smelling nice and malty, and brew some beer. The recipe of choice is supposed to be a nice gingery ale (we used 3.75 oz of fresh, peeled, grated ginger in the boil). However, by the time we'd cooled it and wracked it to the primary the ginger flavors had disapeared. I have two questions for the crowd here (and their inestimable wisdom): what happened to my ginger and how can I get it back? Maybe I should mention that this was my first purely non-kit brew. The recipe called for a boiling hops with an alpha of 14% (we used a nice variety called Columbus recommended by the folks out at the Brewers Coop). Did a hops that strong overtake the ginger? Or was it that we included it in the whole boil? Charlie's "Complete Joy of HB" suggested adding it only in the last 10 minutes of the boil (oh the bliss of hindsight). What went wrong and how can I add/recover the lost flavor? In all other respects the brew is marvelous. Thanks to reading the digest I gathered my courage and took the plunge to grain brewing and I already know that I won't be looking back. The batch we concocted yesterday smells and tastes heavenly (even without the ginger). I can't wait until it ferments and clears and I already know that it won't last long in the bottle. Also, per the request of my roommate (whom I feel I should indulge since she indulges me and my equipment in the kitchen, the bathroom, the closet, etc.) I'm investigating brewing a batch of cider. I've been doing my reading and research but I've come across some conflicting ideas about brewing time/techniques and rates of fermentation. Also if it's a good idea to use pasturized vs unpasturized cider. I'm hesitant to brew something that may be in my fermentor for 18 months (too eager to continue brewing with grains and not enough room for another set-up). From the posts lately I know that others are gearing up to do the same thing so it's fresh in all our minds. Any favorite recipes/instructions/philosophy on the matter would be welcome. Private emails are AOK. Happy brewing to all! And for those in the Chicago/Tristate area, don't forget the Chicago Breweries Tour coming up on Oct. 29! The Chicago Beer History folks have put together a great tour of brewery sites that sounds like lots of fun (and it includes yummy perks like free coffee and rolls beforehand and free beer and sandwiches afterwards). Go to their website and check out the details (and I'm not affiliated in any way, just really excited about it!) http://www.chicagobeerhistory.com/ChicagoBeerTours.htm Cheers! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Jessica Umphress Assistant Developer, Exhibits The Field Museum of Natural History T: 312. 665. 7332 Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 08:46:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Dryw Blanchard <dryw9680 at yahoo.com> Subject: Counter Pressure Bottle Filler Reccomendation I would like to buy a counter pressure bottle filler so that I can start entering some competitions. I have searched the internet and been on many mail order catalog sites. I have never used a counter pressure bottle filler, and I don't know which model to buy. I would like to know what the collective group of fillers recommends. Dryw Blanchard Chicken Sh*t Homebrew __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 09:58:53 -0600 From: "Richard B. Dulany Jr." <RDulany at co.el-paso.tx.us> Subject: Correction--Homebrewed Towels The CORRECT link to Midwest Suppy is: www.midwestsupplies.com Note that "supplies" is PLURAL. The (incorrect) link I provided is for a towel suppy place. Sorry everyone. Richard "just a sloppy proofreader" Dulany El Paso, TX Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:58:19 -0400 From: "S. SNYDER" <SSNYDER at LBGHQ.com> Subject: "dry minting" Greetings all, Thanks for all the info on the Alaskan Brewing Company recipes. I'll be trying them soon (as soon as my basement gets to lagering temps) and I'll let you all know how it turns out. I recently brewed and racked a "Mocha Java Stout" a recipe I got from the Cat's Meow: 7 pounds, Glenbrew Irish Stout Kit 1/4 pound ( 1 cup ), Flaked Barley 1/8 pound ( 1/2 cup ), Black Patent Malt 1/2 ounce, Fuggles hop pellets (bittering - 60 min) 1/2 ounce, Fuggles hop pellets (flavoring - 10 min) 4 ounces, Ghirardelli unsweetened chocolate 2 cups, Brewed Coffee (Monte Sano blend) 1 package, WYeast #1084 Irish Stout Yeast 3/4 cup, Corn sugar My differences were: 8 lbs Mountmilleck Irish Stout kit bittersweet chocolate 8 cups Starbucks coffee OG: 1056 Racking Gravity: 1024 (after 5 days) FYI: My 1084 XL pack didn't rise by the time I had to pitch it, but it still fermented out in about 5 days. Upon racking to the secondary I tasted the brew and it was quite good. With the chocolate taste I thought adding mint might be worthwhile. I would like to tinker with maybe half of the five gallons. I was thinking of bottling half then adding some mint leaves to the 2.5 gallons still in the secondary for a week or two, a sort of "dry hopping" or "dry minting" if you will. Has anyone ever tried something like this? Will it work? I don't want to ruin the beer but I wanted to compare "minted" versus "unminted". Another concern about "dry minting" would be sanitation since the mint leaves are coming from my garden. TIA, Scott ssnyder at lbghq.com Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 14:36:11 -0400 From: "Houseman, David L" <David.Houseman at unisys.com> Subject: Glycol substitute With pure glycol being expensive why could not one just use automotive antifreeze in a ratio with water that assures that it won't freeze at freezer temperatures? Ten gallons of this isn't cheap either but probably cheaper and easier to obtain than glycol for the average homebrewer? Dave Houseman Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 14:59:12 -0400 From: Richard Foote <rfoote at mindspring.com> Subject: Spent Grain Disposal Pat asked: What do I do with the spent grains now that the lawn is frozen? If I try to compost them, they're going to smell really, really bad when they thaw in the spring. When I was brewing up in the Great White North (Vermont), my roomate and I used to just dump 'em out on top of the snow. The warm pile would sorta settle down and the next snow would cover them and you would not see them again until spring. Did not seem to be a problem back then. Course, we just rented and maybe did not care as much. What I do with mine now in GA, is gather up my fall leaves and place them in my compost enclosure. I really cram in all I can. After each brew, I dig down in the leaves, dump the spent grain and cover with leaves. Remember it's best to save some for spent grain bread BEFORE dumping in your compost pile. In the north, you may want to start at the bottom and work your way up to avoid having to dig through frozen clods. Alternatively, stockpile the leaves to the side (probably better) and build your pile in layers as you go--leaves, grain, leaves, grain and so on. A hoop of 1" x 4" wire will contain your leaf stockpile and compost for that matter. The key to avoiding a smelly awaking come spring is enough bulky/carbonacious material to counterbalance the wet/nitrogenous material. Heck, farmers down here in the "Poultry Capital of the World" even compost dead chickens, alternating layers of chickens (hopefully dead at the time or darn close to it--"Bring out your dead!" [clang] "Bring out your dead!" [clang]) and straw/hay in bins made out of wood shipping pallets for sides. "Works great, less filling." Hope this helps, Rick Foote Whistle Pig Brewing and Home Composting Murrayville, GA Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 14:10:05 -0500 From: Tim Burkhart <tburkhart at dridesign.com> Subject: Water analysis confusion After reading various texts and searching the HBD archives I'm now confused on some water analysis issues. I am simply trying to make sure that my water is fine for brewing pales, browns and porters without mineral additions. I am also reviewing my process with acidifying mash and sparge water with lactic acid... ie. I think I have been over doing it... producing a distinct sourness and twang that wasn't there until I started acidifying both mash and sparge water. Johnson County Water District 1 (My brewing water source / filtered through PUR charcol filter) - ----------------------------------------- Calcium Hardness (Ca)= 94.00 Magnesium Hardness (Mg)= 36.00 Sodium (Na)= 47.60 Sulfate (SO4)= 150.00 Chloride (Cl)= 37.10 Carbonate (CO3)= 38.00 Total Hardness= 137 Alkalinity= 53 PH= 9.4 Total dissolved solids= 356 - ----------------------------------------- - Is "Calcium hardness" different from the "Calcium" content I'm looking for in my water analysis? - If it is different, how do I figure the actual calcium content? - With my PH at 9.4 (but taking Ca and CO3 in mind) do I need to acidify the mash water down to 7? - Do I need to mess with Gypsum or any other mineral addition? - Should I take the "anal" out of analysis, relax and brew with the water as is... while still acidifying the sparge water? TIA, Tim Burkhart Kansas City Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 15:15:11 -0400 From: "Russ Hobaugh" <Russ_Hobaugh at erm.com> Subject: Dubbel I am looking for some pointers on my first all grain Dubbel. After doing my homework, I have come up with the following recipe. Those of you who enjoy brewing and drinking Belgian beers let me know if I am close or how to correct this. 9.5# DWC Pilsener malt 1# DWC Biscuit 1# DWC Aromatic 8 oz. Caramunich 8 oz. DWC Special B Mash at 148 for 1 hour, 159 for 30 minutes, 165 for mashout. Add 1# candy suger at start of boil, 1oz styrian goldings and half oz of Saaz for 60 minutes. 1/4 oz of Saaz at 15 minutes and 2 minutes. Some questions: are there enough hops for a balanced beer? What type of secondary? I have read that 2 weeks is fine, up to 6 or 8, and at temps. from 68 down to 40. What does the collective recomend? Off list is fine for any corrective actions I might need to take. TIA Russ Hobaugh Goob' Dog Brewery, Birdsboro PA Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 15:56:35 -0400 From: "Lenhart, Jacob" <jlenhart at harris.com> Subject: SAAZ Octoberfest SAAZ, the Home Brewing Club of Brevard County, Florida, is hosting its annual Octoberfest Celebration Saturday, Oct. 28. Home made bratwurst, German potato salad, and lots of good beer will be served. Cost for non-club members is $5. SAAZ Octoberfest October 28, 2000 1PM - 9PM Rotary Park -- US 1 and Suntree Blvd. For more information contact Bob Bennett: (321)724-1312 Ron Snell (321)724-0564 or The81union at aol.com Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:57:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Beaverplt <beaverplt at yahoo.com> Subject: all grain virgin I recently posted a problem that I had with my first grain batch (an oatmeal stout) dealing with low initial SG. I received several helpful e-mails that I want to thank everyone for. I recently transfered the batch into a secondary fermenter and took another reading. My second reading after 10 days in the primary was the same as my initial reading. I've never had that happen before so I'm assuming that my initial reading was wrong (or perhaps homebrew impaired). Of course, I drank what I drew off for the reading. It seemed to have the flavor it should at this point. Now I can't wait to bottle it. Now a problem. I received a private email from a very helpful person in Florida offering to run my recipe through his software. I brought the recipe in to send off and found that I had deleted rather than saved the message. My memory has more holes in it than my lauter-tun, so if I could ask that you email me again I'd appreciate it. Beaver __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://photos.yahoo.com/ Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 16:26:31 -0300 From: Rod Prather <rodpr at iquest.net> Subject: Temperature Meters Found a cool temperature meter with a K type thermocouple. The price is what is cool, $29.00. ($25.00 for 10 or more but who needs 10) More interesting is that the thermocouple is not permanently attached. It is connected to the unit with a standard two prong thermocouple connector so it would be easy to replace. It's from a company called Circuit Specialists. You can look at it at http://store.yahoo.com/webtronics/m-902c.html No affiliation yada yada yada. - -- Rod Prather, PooterDuude Indianapolis, Indiana Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 18:14:07 -0400 From: "Shane A. Saylor, Eccentric Bard" <taliesin2 at earthlink.net> Subject: A site I found, but lost I had found a site that lists all the legalities of home brewing of each state. I think I found it through http://.www.beertown.org/ But I have been unable to find it again. Any help appreciated. - -- Everything on this earth has a purpose, and every disease an herb to cure it, and every person a mission. This is the Indian theory of existence. --Mourning Dove, 1888-1936 - --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: herbs-unsubscribe at witchhaven.com For additional commands, e-mail: witchhaven-help at witchhaven.com Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 20:14:07 -0400 From: Chris at umit.maine.edu (Christopher Sprague) Subject: Cyser....kind of. Ok, I'm all excited about my latest homebrewing expirament. I've been meaning to make a good fall cider, and after a bit of research, one thing led to another and I ended up doing something either crazy or ingenius. Here's the deal: Today was my scheduled day to rack my 7 week old Mead to secondary (6.5 gallon). Before I did it, a few things struck me; 1) Many cider recipes call for the addition of honey. 2) Many cider recipes call for champagne yeast, which I used in my mead. 3) A few cider recipes suggested putting your cider onto yeast cake from another finished batch of something. I put them 2 and 2 together and got a great idea. Without thinking it through, I just went ahead and racked my mead - all but the last half gallon or so, and poured my cider mixture (5 gal. cider, 1.5lb brown sugar, yeast nutrient) on top of the leftover mead and yeast cake and attached blowoff hose. I got foam-over within 2 hours. I just want to know...has anyone else tried this? Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 20:59:47 -0400 From: "Mike Pensinger" <beermkr at bellatlantic.net> Subject: Chicago Area Brew Clubs I will be spending all of Decmber trhough March in Great Lakes IL (North of Chicago) and was wondering if there were any clubs in that area that I could attend meetings with and/or get in on a couple group brewing sessions. I will not be abale to bring my equipment but can certianly provide the ingredients. I am an aall-grain brewer but do some extract batches here and there. Private email is welcome. Mike Pensinger beermkr at verizon.net Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 10:54:52 -0400 From: Todd Goodman <tsg at bonedaddy.net> Subject: Spent Grains in Winter In HBD #3447 Pat wrote: > > Greetings, Beerlings! Take me to your lager... > > Having been a warm weather brewer all these years, my new brewing setup > has thrown me into a bit of a quandary: What do I do with the spent grains > now that the lawn is frozen? If I try to compost them, they're going to > smell really, really bad when they thaw in the spring - besides, the > compost area of my yard is pretty dangerous in the winter - either so > boggy you can't pull your feet out of the mud, or so icy you'll overshoot > your target by a mile or so. Do I put them in a couple of garbage bags and > hope for the best with the Sanitation Engineering Brigade? Do I spread > them on the street as a traction aid? > > There's lots of us in the Frozen Region. What are some of the methods > you've used to deal with this problem? I've always just dumped them in my compost pile. They've never ended up smelling by the time spring comes around (but the pile is around 30 feet from the house). I think the deer might even be eating some before they freeze solid. I'm not sure if you were going to leave the bags in the house but I wouldn't. Even after one week, spent grain and hops in a semi-closed container (small trash can) grow an amazing population of mold. Todd Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 20:06:45 -0600 From: Darrel Harris <deharris at home.com> Subject: composting spent grains As queried by Pat B..... I've built a composting structure out of 4 discarded wooden pallets. All my lawn clippings, leaves, spent grains, hops, kitchen waste go in all year round. In the springtime, I am rewarded with a lovely black humus that my growing beds thrive on all summer. Darrel Harris Southern Alberta Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 21:01:12 -0700 From: "Jon Sandlin" <sandlin at bendcable.com> Subject: Is my juniper safe? I am planning on using some of the local juniper twigs around my house for lautering my next batch of beer. I am curious, is the western juniper found here in the Bend, OR area safe to use in beer? Hopefully somebody in the collective can give me some insight. Thanks in advance for your help. Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 01:01:15 -0700 From: "jwhite" <jwhite139 at home.com> Subject: Fw: Brewpubs in San Diego & Santa Barbara, CA? - ----- Original Message ----- From: jwhite To: post@hbd.org Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 10:36 PM Subject: Brewpubs in San Diego & Santa Barbara, CA? I've got some business on the west coast this upcoming week and all the travel from the east to west coast makes me thirty! Anyone have recommendations for few good brewpubs, excellent restaurants, etc. to visit! Due to time limitations I probably won't be able to drive lots of miles outside of the downtown locations I'm staying in, but send me your suggestions! Thanks Return to table of contents
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