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Contents:
  RE: blichmannengineering Therminator ("Scott D. Braker-Abene")
  Water modification (Jeremy Hansen)
  Food Pairing Show ("Chad Stevens")
  Prime tab storage, Therminator (Calvin Perilloux)
  Re: Foodgrade and heatresistant pumps ("Scott D. Braker-Abene")
  Thrumometer photo updated (Calvin Perilloux)
  Call for Judges - LA Fair (Don)
  Counterpressure Filling. ("Dan Listermann")
  Competition Announcement: Dayton Beerfest, Sept 11th ("Gordon Strong")


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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 20:07:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Scott D. Braker-Abene" <skotrat at yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: blichmannengineering Therminator

Jim Writes"

"looks to be the most perfect chiller on the market. I'm considering this
chiller and would like any comments.."

Yes... They look damn sweet... I would hesitate only because it is a plate heat
exchanger that you cannot take apart to clean. Plate chiller are fantastic
efficiency wise but also get down right filthy and grubby in a commercial
brewery. 

They have to be taken apart and soaked on a semi regular basis. To me not being
able to dismantle is a draw back... 

I have to say though that all the BLICHMANN stuffs look to be of top quality
and not a piece of cheap plastic anywhere to be seen by the naked eye!

C'ya!

 -Skotrat



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"Dad... Parents can't have fun..."
 - Heather Braker

http://www.skotrat.com/skotrat - Skotrats Beer Page
http://www.brewrats.org - BrewRats HomeBrew Club



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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 22:10:38 -0500
From: Jeremy Hansen <cfjh at eiu.edu>
Subject: Water modification

Hello folks.

I know that this has probably been discussed in depth, but in searching the
archives I can't quite see the forest for the trees. I would appreciate it
if someone could point me to some succinct info. I would like to adjust my
water chemistry for two purposes. First, I would like to match water to
styles in a very general way, because things like gypsum and chalk are cheap
(I teach, and I also have some drywall around here....ha). Secondly, my
extract efficiency is somewhat below where I want it, and my water, mash,
and final beer are all pretty neutral, according to pH strips.

Now I know that I can add some minerals without affection pH, looking at my
water report for a baseline. But some also affect pH. I've been looking at
John Palmer's chart for water calculation, but this seems relevant only for
mash pH. Do I adjust the water minerals according to final batch size, and
treat the mash pH with lactic or phosphoric acid? Or do I add something like
calcium to adjust the pH of my three-gallon mash, and add additional
minerals at the beginning of the boil?

I saw that B3 has a 5.2 pH buffer for sale, which makes the pH adjustment
regardless of starting point. Would this suffice, and then I could add
minerals at the beginning of the boil if I want to?

Thanks.

Jeremy Hansen



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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 20:46:17 -0700
From: "Chad Stevens" <zuvaruvi at cox.net>
Subject: Food Pairing Show

For those of you who live in the San Diego area, Tom Nickel, Tomme Arthur,
and Alton Brown will be doing a food/beer/wine pairing show at Fashion
Valley Mall from 12:00 to 5:30 p.m. this Sunday, August 15th.  FREE!!!  I'm
not sure but I think it's in Macy's.

http://www.simon.com/promotions/details.aspx?EID=12297

No affiliation (other than really liking Tom and Tomme's beer).

Chad Stevens
QUAFF
San Diego



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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 06:31:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Calvin Perilloux <calvinperilloux at yahoo.com>
Subject: Prime tab storage, Therminator

>From the previous HBD:

> You might store leftover Prime Tabs in the freezer. In the 
> unlikely event they were contaminated through handling, 
> freezing won't kill the bacteria or wild yeast but will 
> severely retard its growth.

No freezing necessary.  Just keep them dry, and though beasties
might "fall on them" when you've got the pack open, nothing will
grow on them.  Nothing retards growth like total lack of water,
so all you'll have on them are various spores and other dormant
beasties.   Whereas if you freeze them and then pull them out 
to use a few, then put them back in the freezer, you'll just be
getting them slighly wet each time from condensation! 

And regarding the Therminator, there's a photo on the Blichmann
site showing it with the Thrumometer:  http://www.thrumometer.com/
Interestingly, the Thrumometer, which is designed to read from
58 to 88 F, is attached to the Wort-IN side of the heat exchanger!
Hmmmm....  Perhaps it just made for a better photo in that position.

Calvin Perilloux
Middletown, Maryland, USA




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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 07:15:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Scott D. Braker-Abene" <skotrat at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Foodgrade and heatresistant pumps

Hey Now Michael,

Little Giant Model: 3-MD-MT-HC

Description
Thermally protected open fan-cooled motor has ball bearings. 6 ft power cord
and 3-prong molded plug. (230V version has no plug).

It will handle 200f easy

http://www.littlegiant.com/ 

(Then append with the below line which appears to go over the 80 char limit on
the HBD when the whole thing is together)

LittleGiant/IndCat.nsf/AllProdWebView/D5EDC18FA2D474B5862566DA00697C18

I got mine a few years back (5-6) and it is a fine pump. Never a problem. 

C'ya!

 -Scott

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"Dad... Parents can't have fun..."
 - Heather Braker

http://www.skotrat.com/skotrat - Skotrats Beer Page
http://www.brewrats.org - BrewRats HomeBrew Club


		


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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 08:18:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: Calvin Perilloux <calvinperilloux at yahoo.com>
Subject: Thrumometer photo updated

Apologies for any confusion on the Thrumometer hookup:

It seems that Blichmann has updated the website with a
different hookup of the Thrumometer/Therminator, and
the current one you'll see DOES have the hookups done
in a normal fashion.  (That'll teach me to cache all
my web pages.)  Trust me, it was odd before.  No, I was
not sucking my sixth glass of barleywine when I saw it!!!

Now to scrape together the $199 to buy one of those beauts...

Calvin Perilloux
Middletown, Maryland, USA



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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 09:57:18 -0700
From: Don <don at steinfillers.com>
Subject: Call for Judges - LA Fair

Attention all BJCP Judges, and others so qualified.

Reserve August 28th to drink beer, and judge the 3rd annual
Los Angeles County Fair Commercial Beer Competition.

This is an open competition for all breweries licensed and brewing in 
North America. It is held at the LA County Fairgrounds in Pomona.

This year the fair has allocated $50 to each judge who participates as a 
token of our appreciation. In addition judges will get tickets to the 
fair and a T-shirt.

If you are interested in participating as a judge, please sign up at our
website by Aug 21: http://www.calferm.org/faircomp/index.html

Judging will last approximately four hours and lunch
will be provided by BJ's
I would like to thank all of you in advance for your support.

Contacts:
judges at calferm.org
www.calferm.org

Sincerely,
Mike Cullen, Judging Coordinator, mcullen at calferm.org
And; Don Van Valkenburg, Competition Coordinator, brewing at earthlink.net


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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 13:20:47 -0400
From: "Dan Listermann" <dan at listermann.com>
Subject: Counterpressure Filling.

I use a sanitized growler to hold my Philler when idle.

Dan Listermann







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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 22:01:05 -0400
From: "Gordon Strong" <strongg at speakeasy.net>
Subject: Competition Announcement: Dayton Beerfest, Sept 11th

Entries are now being accepted for the 9th Dayton (Ohio) Beerfest.  The
competition will be held on September 11th; entries are due by September
5th.  All details are on our web site: 
http://hbd.org/draft/daybeerfest.html.
Quick summary: Easy online entry, no recipe, 2 bottles, $5, any type of
bottles including draft packaging, enter sub-categories as often as you want
(only top-scoring is eligible for prize in a single sub-category).  All 2004
BJCP styles accepted including mead and cider.  Nice wooden plaques
for category winners (ribbons for 2nd/3rd).

Gordon Strong
Dayton Regional Amateur Fermentation Technologists
strongg at earthlink.net 




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