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Contents:
  Bully Porter (Glenn Raudins)
  Removal (Robert Weir - Manuals)
  King Kooker ("Rad Equipment")
  California to Portland Trai ("Rad Equipment")
  Wort Pots (Keith A. MacNeal HLO1-1/T09 DTN 225-6171  23-Apr-1993 1557)
  Brewing Partners (Norm Pyle)
  direction of hop vine climb (Garrett Hildebrand)
  Clarification of THREAD v2.1 announcement (Tom Kaltenbach)


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Date: Fri, 23 Apr 93 8:34:08 CDT
From: raudins at galt.b17d.ingr.com (Glenn Raudins)
Subject: Bully Porter


I recently had the opportunity to have some Boulevard Brewing (Kansas City) 
Bully Porter delivered to me (thanks Ken.)  In response to a recent review,
I decided to see if the metallic taste John Fitzgerald found was evident in
this six pack.  The review follows but to sum it up.  I tasted no metallic
taste.  Very Clean.  Anyone know what yeast they use?

Bully Porter from Boulevard Brewing
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Aroma:  Roasted Barley or Black Patent
        Hints of Chocolate Malt
	No hop aroma

Flavor: Hops not identifiable
	Dry Finish

Color:	A bit dark but would fit the Robust
	Porter style (AHA).

Carbonation: Appropriate

Body: 	A little thin for the style. (American or English)

Overall: AHA "Robust Porter" w/o the body.
         It is a bit too dry to be a porter, it resembles
	 a dry stout with some of the roasted barley removed
	 and the body taken away.
	 Not an English Porter, it lacks the complexity and
	 "fruitiness."
	 An American Porter (though not smooth like Anchor.)
	 A nice drinkable beer overall. (I like dry stouts.)

Notes:	Expiration Notch on the Label (May)
	There was no metallic taste as John Fitzgerald reported.
	Many thanks to Ken Schmidt for delivering from Kansas City
	  to the Alabama beer wasteland.


Glenn Raudins
raudins at galt.b17d.ingr.com


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Date: Fri, 23 Apr 93 09:47:26 EDT
From: weir at cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (Robert Weir - Manuals)
Subject: Removal


Please remove me from the homebrew list. I'm changing jobs and
no longer will have net access. Thanks for running the list.
Great service.

RSW
weir at cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com

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Date: 23 Apr 1993 09:04:48 U
From: "Rad Equipment" <rad_equipment at rad-mac1.ucsf.edu>
Subject: King Kooker

Subject:  King Kooker                           Time:9:00 AM     Date:4/23/93
Any one with Costco access that is in the market for a propane driven burner,
come on down! $48.00 for the 3' high 120,000 btu stand with regulator. You even
get a pot which you can use for heating water (its aluminum). Looks like a good
deal. It might require some modification to support a sawn-off keg.

RW...

Russ Wigglesworth (INTERNET: Rad_Equipment at radmac1.ucsf.edu - CI$: 72300,61)
UCSF Dept. of Radiology, San Francisco, CA (415) 476-3668 / 474-8126


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Date: 23 Apr 1993 08:51:32 U
From: "Rad Equipment" <rad_equipment at rad-mac1.ucsf.edu>
Subject: California to Portland Trai

Subject:  California to Portland Train          Time:8:49 AM     Date:4/23/93
Anyone interested in information on the California Crazy Train to the AHA
conference please e-mail me directly.

RW...

Russ Wigglesworth (INTERNET: Rad_Equipment at radmac1.ucsf.edu - CI$: 72300,61)
UCSF Dept. of Radiology, San Francisco, CA (415) 476-3668 / 474-8126


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Date: Fri, 23 Apr 93 16:05:09 EDT
From: Keith A. MacNeal HLO1-1/T09 DTN 225-6171 23-Apr-1993 1557 <macneal at pate.enet.dec.com>
Subject: Wort Pots

What is this fascination for using stainless steel pots to boil wort in?
It seems obvious to me that the way to save about $100 on a boiling pot is
to pick up a brand new enamled steel canning pot.  I've seen them for around
$30.

Keith MacNeal
Digital Equipment Corp.
Hudson, MA

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Date: Fri, 23 Apr 93 14:03:29 MDT
From: pyle at intellistor.com (Norm Pyle)
Subject: Brewing Partners

Rob Bradley asks if the hbd is a suitable place to seek brewing partners.  I
can't think of a better place.  Your plans to use it to "keep up the variety"
are quite good, too.  I live in Longmont, CO and the idea of a brewing
partner for those all-grain batches is a good one.  I'd bet my wife would
like it too, if it got me out of the kitchen faster.  Any takers?

Cheers,
Norm


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Date: Fri, 23 Apr 93 11:44:59 PDT
From: mdcsc!gdh at uunet.UU.NET (Garrett Hildebrand)
Subject: direction of hop vine climb

I am growing three kinds of hops in my Southern California backyard,
and they are all doing the same thing: climbing the stake *clockwise*.

I have planted my hops, initially, in planters, and this is their first
year. The pots are dead center in my yard. I put a stake by each plant,
and let the plant figure out which way it wanted to climb, rather than
trying to train it. They all found the stake, and they all climbed it
the same way.

So, I'd have to say that training them to go up a stake
counterclockwise might be a challenge. Two points of reference: These
are Cascase, Willamette and Nugget, with the Nugget being the real
eager beavers; and the viewpoint for observing the direction of wrap on
the stake is looking down from the top of it.

Garrett Hildebrand

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Date: Fri, 23 Apr 93 17:43 EDT
From: tom at kalten.bach1.sai.com (Tom Kaltenbach)
Subject: Clarification of THREAD v2.1 announcement


Just a small correction to my last post, which announced that THREAD v2.1 was 
available for download via anonymous ftp from sierra.stanford.edu.  The 
actual directory that thread is located in is "pub/homebrew/programs/thread", 
not "pub/homebrew" as I indicated in the post.  The portable C version of the
old (v1.2) THREAD source code will also be available in this directory.

   Any comments, questions, or suggestions can be sent to me at the email 
address below.  

Tom Kaltenbach                   Upstate New York Homebrewers Association
tom at kalten.bach1.sai.com         Rochester, New York USA                 

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End of HOMEBREW Digest #1127, 04/26/93