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	FORUM ON BEER, HOMEBREWING, AND RELATED ISSUES
		Rob Gardner, Digest Coordinator

Contents:
  Re: Brewing in garbage pails (Martin Weinberg)
  Interesting Ingredients ("Allen J. Hainer")
  Re: lots of stuff in Homebrew #173 (a.e.mossberg)

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Date: Sat, 10 Jun 89 12:03:02 EDT
From: weinberg at duvel.ias.edu (Martin Weinberg)
Subject: Re: Brewing in garbage pails

> How safe/advisable is it to brew (primary fermentation) in a plastic
> garbage can?  (Such as those made of hard plastic sold by Hefty.)

I have been told that plastic garbage cans (especially brown ones) 
contain carcinogenic dyes which may be leached by the fermenting
brews.   To be safe, we should probably stick to those white (nylon?)
food-grade buckets.  Personally, I recommend glass carbuoys and the
blow-off method.

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Date: Sat, 10 Jun 89 15:38:58 EDT
From: "Allen J. Hainer" <ajhainer at violet.waterloo.edu>
Subject: Interesting Ingredients

  All this talk about different ingredients has brought up several examples
about which I know very little (my only references being Papazian's and
Birch's books):

   yarrow
   cardamom
   woodruff
   honey
   raspberries

  Papazian has covered cherries, ginger, cinnamon plus various others
that were not mentioned.

  I'm interested in three things about these ingredients in beer:

   1 - What type of beer they are good in.
   
   2 - Approxamately how much and when they should be added.
 
   3 - What their affect is.

  Any comments from those of you who have tried these or ANY other interesting
ingredients would be greatly appreciated (I know there must be A LOT of 
creative homebrewers out there ;-)  Please respond by e-mail, and I will
summarize.
                     -Al   (ajhainer at violet.waterloo.edu)

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Date: Sat, 10 Jun 89 17:02:04 EDT
From: aem at mthvax.cs.miami.edu (a.e.mossberg)
Subject: Re: lots of stuff in Homebrew #173

In Homebrew #173, all these people had things to say:

Paul A. Ebersman, in "Just getting started"

>I am just getting into the idea of brewing my own beer, and would appreciate
>pointers as to:

>1) Instruction/Recipe books worth having

I like Dave Line's book.  Most people on this list are awfully fond of
Charlie Papazians.  Undoubtably, both would be suitable for you.

>2) Are kits the way to start? Which kits work well?

Kits are extremely easy, and there isn't an appreciable cost difference one
way or another.  Going from malt is alot of work over much of a day. The
two malts I use most often are Dogbolter, and Mountmellick Irish Stout.
Your tastes may vary. Experiment!

>3) Mail order companies that have pieces/parts/yeasts, etc.

The place I work, Wine & Brew By You, in South Miami, has an incredibly
large selection, probably the largest in the country.  In general, if you have
a local shop, you should frequent it before using a mail order establishment.  
Wine & Brew By You does do mail order, call at (305) 666-5757.

Then Michael Berry, in response to a posting of mine asks (regarding
the use of C. Sativa in homebrew):

>I must ask - did it produce any "interesting" results from this adjunct?

I thought it was very nice, but the effects were not as pronounced as
other means of ingestion, and I would suggest that it has more novelty
value than anything else. Be sure to observe local laws! :-)

Then Erik A. Henchal, in an apparent retraction to his earlier comments
(which provoked multiple flames largely filling issue 173) says:

>Apparently, I spoke hastely when I stated that hops and THE herb
>(that dopes use) are not related.  Even though everyone can see
>that they are clearly different species...in broad terms, they
>are related.  Therefore I retract my previous comment. 

"THE herb (that dopes use)"? You must be referring to tobacco. :-)
Whether you agree or not with current laws regarding use of some 
organic substances doesn't give you the right to determine the views of 
others. Historically numereous drugs have been used by people, and just
because today the legally approved drugs are tobacco and alcohol don't mean
shit. Then again, the military isn't known for breeding open-mindedness,
is it?

Lastly, Patrick Garvin asks:

>How safe/advisable is it to brew (primary fermentation) in a plastic
>garbage can?  (Such as those made of hard plastic sold by Hefty.)

Well, I wouldn't suggest brewing in non-food grade plastics.  Hefty
undoubtably makes food grade plastic containers, if you can find them.
"Stay away from colored containers" is a good rule of thumb.

aem
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a.e.mossberg - aem at mthvax.cs.miami.edu - aem at miavax.SPAN - aem at umiami.BITNET 
The world we have made as a result of the thinking we have done thus far
creates problems that we cannot solve at the same level as the level we
created them.					- Albert Einstein

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End of HOMEBREW Digest #174, 06/11/89

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