HOMEBREW Digest #3959 Mon 10 June 2002


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Contents:
  Lallemand Scholarship-Beer Heaven Awaits! ("Rob Moline")
  Gas terminology (Brad McMahon)
  RE:  Where to find good brew in Dallas/Plano area? ("Bill Dubas")
  electric stove brewing ("Laura Barrowman")
  All Grain Beginner (Brewmiker)
  methanol ("Stephen Cavan")
  Beer jingles (Jeff Renner)
  Beer Can Chicken (Danny Breidenbach)
  Mini kegs ("Dan Listermann")
  Re: Pump motor speed control (Kent Fletcher)
  cornies for lagering ("Rodney Wild")
  Re: Beer in Dallas? ("Tray Bourgoyne")

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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 00:30:10 -0500 From: "Rob Moline" <jethrogump at mchsi.com> Subject: Lallemand Scholarship-Beer Heaven Awaits! Lallemand Scholarship-Beer Heaven Awaits! Folks, there are but a few short days left to enter the drawing for a 2 week Concise Course to Beer Heaven, aka, the Siebel Institute!! Entries are open to all memebrs of the AHA, and all they have to do is ask! http://www.beertown.org/AHA/lallemand2.htm Anyone who considers a $38 membership fee a cheap lottery ticket in a contest that has more likelyhood of producing results than any lottery you've ever entered is strongly encouraged to join now, before the deadline of June 15th! Go to https://www.beertown.org/membership/joinaha1.htm to join online, and to http://www.siebel-institute.com/ to learn more about the Siebel Institute! I can promise you, if I was eligible, I would be buying multiple memberships for myself, just to increase the chances of attending a course I have previously done... It IS that good! Beer Heaven! Cheers! Gump "The More I Know About Beer, The More I Realize I Need To Know More About Beer!" Return to table of contents
Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 18:16:44 +0930 From: Brad McMahon <brad at sa.apana.org.au> Subject: Gas terminology At 12:24 AM 8/06/2002 -0400, Dave Harsh wrote: >B Morey <bernardmorey at optushome.com.au> asks: > > I notice Chinese supermarkets sell a variety of LPG burners for > > barbeque gas -- they're quite cheap and some are quite hefty (double > > or triple circle of flame). They're intended for larger scale rice > > cooking or woks. Why not consider one of those? > >I just noticed the ".au" in your e-mail address - I'm assuming that >barbecue gas is methane and not propane... If its propane, I have no >standing to address the burners and their utility. Bernard would be referring to bottled LPG, which largely consists of butane and propane in Australia. I understand that in the more northern regions of the North American continent, LPG consists of a high proportion of propane due to freezing issues, hence the common parlance of calling LPG "propane" there. Here in Australia there is a much larger percentage of butane in the LPG mix and everyone calls it "LPG". Natural Gas that is piped to peoples' houses consists of mainly methane and ethane and traces of higher hydrocarbons depending on how "wet" the gas is coming from the gas fields. Hope that clears it all up! Cheers, Brad McMahon Aldgate, South Australia Return to table of contents
Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 12:01:18 +0000 From: "Bill Dubas" <bill_dubas at hotmail.com> Subject: RE: Where to find good brew in Dallas/Plano area? Tray Bourgoyne asks: "I will be working in the Plano, Tx area for the next 6-8 weeks. Where can I find good brew?" Tray; Your selection will not be as good as it was a few years ago, as some of the Dallas metroplex brewpubs have closed, but here is a brief rundown of possibilities. I live in Carrollton, which is Plano's neighbor. Brewpubs/Restaurants: There is a new Two Rows Restaurant that just opened in Allen. The original Two Rows, closer to downtown Dallas, is a brewpub that makes great beer. I've never been to the one in Allen, but from what I've heard, this location is only a tap-house, but with a respectable selection of commercial beer. The Bavarian Grill in Plano has an excellent selection of German beers, although a little pricey, and some of the best German food in Dallas. If you go a little South to the town of Addison, there is the Flying Saucer and the Londoner. The Flying Saucer is a tap-house and is my favorite place for a good beer in this area. It is also the meeting place for the North Texas Homebrewers, so that tells you something. The Londoner is modeled after an English pub and tends to stock mainly UK ales. If you go even farther South into Dallas, there is the Two Rows Brewpub that I mentioned previously, the Old Monk, which has a great Belgian beer selection, and the Gingerman, another outstanding tap-house. And last but not least, over by the DFW airport in Grapevine you will find the Big Buck Brewpub. They have an excellent selection of beers, good food, and the atmosphere of a National Park lodge. Liquor Stores/Grocery Stores: A new grocery store just opened in Plano that has a fantastic selection of beers. It's called the Central Market and it's at the corner of Coit Rd and the George Bush Tollroad. I've also found an excellent selection at a little liquor store on the Northwest corner of I75 and Spring Creek Rd. Unfortunately I forget the name of this place (maybe S&S Beverage?). And last but not least. . . the members of the North Texas Homebrewers make some excellent beer. Here is a link to our website ( http://hbd.org/nthba/index.html ). Our next meeting will be on Tuesday, June 11th, at the Old Monk (2847 North Henderson in Dallas). We will also be having a club brew day at a member's home in Plano on June 15th and you're welcome to join us. We always have homebrew on tap for these events. Our local homebrew store (Homebrew Headquarters on Coit at Arapaho) can also give you more info on good beer in the area. If you have any more questions please contact me off-line at bill_dubas at hotmail.com. Regards; Bill Dubas Return to table of contents
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 08:28:11 -0400 From: "Laura Barrowman" <llbarrowman at hotmail.com> Subject: electric stove brewing Regarding brewing on a crappie electric stove, this brewer must live in my old apartment. A separate propane burner is definitely the best solution. If said brewer really does live in my old apartment then no burners/barbeques allowed on the balcony (and the old busybody around the corner will call the police on you). The night before brewing, I would dissolve my DME in ~2 gal of hot tap water and do any partial mashing/steeping. I usually ended up with ~ 3 gallons to boil. I had to keep a cover partially on my brewpot to maintain any type of boil. A coat hanger, bent into a triangle, put between the pot and burner minimizes scorching. I would buy gallons of spring water to top off the carboys. Having progressed to 10 gal. all-grain batches and propane burners, my hat is off to anyone brewing in an apartment. Apartment brewing is a huge PITA. Cheers! Laura Charlotte NC Return to table of contents
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 10:46:55 EDT From: Brewmiker at aol.com Subject: All Grain Beginner Hi all, I am just about ready to start all grain brewing in earnest, after two years of successful partial mash brewing (well actually I did one allgrain batch, a while back, but that's another story...). Anyway, I have no sparge arm and will be mashing in a 10 gallon Gott cooler with a Phil's phalse bottom. I built the bulkhead fitting from the March/April Zymurgy. What would be the best recipe for this first all grain excursion? Also, have been thinking about entering some contests. When you send in your entries, how do you keep the yeast from getting stirred up in transit and adversely affecting the flavor of your entry? Is there a somewhat standard packaging method? Finally, I mistakenly purchased three 10 packs of the hose barb fittings needed for the bulkhead fitting. I need only one of the packs. If anyone is interested in one of these packs, respond off-digest, to me by email. These are the 3/8 inch MIP to 3/8 inch barb (part # 8 in the zymurgy article) purchased through McMaster-Carr. Mike Mullins Brewing in Lapeer, Michigan Return to table of contents
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 10:16:50 -0600 From: "Stephen Cavan" <scavan at sprint.ca> Subject: methanol I noticed some speculation about methanol existing in home brewed beer. The truth is that methanol results from the enzymatic breakdown of pectins during fermentation. Of all fruit, grapes have one of the lowest levels of pectin, and typically produce less than 500 ppm. Apples would be rather high in pectin, and so would produce more methanol in the fermented product. If I assume you are brewing with barley, grains and nothing very strange added, there should be no pectin or methanol in your beer. Cheers, Steve Return to table of contents
Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 13:17:58 -0400 From: Jeff Renner <JeffRenner at comcast.net> Subject: Beer jingles Brewers I just ran across a bunch of .wav files of old (and newer) beer jingles (and many ads as well) at http://www.arachnyd.com/david/sounds/sounds.html#ads Schaefer "Schaefer is the one beer to have when you're having more than one", Schlitz "When you're out of Schlitz, you're out of beer", Rhinegold "My beer is Rhinegold the dry beer." Fun. Jeff - -- Jeff Renner in Ann Arbor, Michigan USA, JeffRenner at comcast.net "One never knows, do one?" Fats Waller, American Musician, 1904-1943 Return to table of contents
Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 13:47:51 -0500 From: Danny Breidenbach <dbreiden at math.purdue.edu> Subject: Beer Can Chicken Hi, I caught tail-end of a piece on NPR about beer-can chicken. Sounds like a bizarre way to roast a chicken. I didn't catch the details. I don't even remember when exactly I heard it, since I was on vacation at the time and at best only vaguely aware of what day it was and at worst, completely oblivious. Anyone know what the heck I'm talking about? Care to share? Thanks, - --Danny in West Lafayette, Indiana Return to table of contents
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 16:57:04 -0400 From: "Dan Listermann" <dan at listermann.com> Subject: Mini kegs "Jim Yeagley" <jyeag at core.com> writes of minikegs: <I have a set of the mini-kegs, but only used them until the included <cartridges were used up. They tended to empty a cartridge in 1 or 2 days of <sitting in the fridge, which was a pain since you can't just run out to <Kmart to pick up another box of the 12 grammers. Leaky once they're tapped, <first complaint. If it was the German tap, they frequently leak at the nose of the cartridge and a dab of keg lube will fix that. Seeing that you used 12 gram cartridges, it may have been my tap, the Philtap. If this is the case, we should talk and decide if yours need to be returned for repair or replacement. Philtaps only leak if they are defective and we have greatly reduced that possibility through design and inspection procedures. Wal-Mart sells 12 gram cartridges under the "Copperhead" brand that work perfectly well for Philtaps despite the "not for human consumption" label that means that you should not consume CO2. There is no oil in them that I can tell and there is no flavor problems or head retention problems that one would expect if there was oil in them. If you must have cartridges that do not have that warning, I will be glad to sell them to you at twice the Wal-Mart price. <Filling them is MUCH easier than bottling, hands down. I don't even use a bottling bucket for them. I just fill them to within 1" of the top and flop 1.5 Tbs of corn sugar through a funnel into the hole. <Getting the #$&*%$ bungs in took all my weight, and some well-placed <cursing. Second complaint. The tinniest amount of Keg Lube around the cone of the bungs makes insertion a breeze. Dan Listermann Check out our E-tail site at www.listermann.com Return to table of contents
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 15:46:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Kent Fletcher <fletcherhomebrew at yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Pump motor speed control Aaron, I second what Bill Freeman posted, for a couple of reasons. Reducing pump speed may lead to overheating of the motor windings, both motor and pump are at maximum efficiency when supplied the rated voltage. More importantly, reducing pump speed will not achieve your goal. Maximum heat gain is achieved with maximum flow. Reduce the flow and your return temp (coming out of the H.E.) will be marginally higher, but the mass correspondingly lower. Hence, while throttling flow is useful with some equipment setups (or particularly glutenous mashes) in avoiding a compacted bed and "stuck" mash, it is not appropriate for reducing "ramp" times. Instead,icrease your HLT water temp and keep that pump going full speed. (You ARE using a HERMS, right? You did say "heat exchanger.") Hope that helps. Oh, and do you make Sake, as well? Kent Return to table of contents
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 21:56:28 -0800 From: "Rodney Wild" <rwild at ptialaska.net> Subject: cornies for lagering Is there any reason that I shouldn't use cornelius kegs instead of carboys for lagering? I am thinking of racking the unprimed beer to the kegs, and then force carbonating them after the lagering phase is complete. Using kegs would save me substantial room in my small chest freezer. Thanks for you thoughts, Rodney Wild Return to table of contents
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 19:38:09 -0500 From: "Tray Bourgoyne" <tray at netdoor.com> Subject: Re: Beer in Dallas? WOOHOO! The motherload! Thanks for the info!!! Tray - ----- Original Message ----- From: <mohrstrom at humphrey-products.com> To: <post@hbd.org> Cc: <tray at netdoor.com> Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 3:32 PM Subject: Beer in Dallas? > Tray, tasked to be temporarily trapped in Texas: > > > I will be working in the Plano, Tx area for the next > > 6-8 weeks. Where can I find good brew? > > Where indeed? I can't recall anything in the Plano neighborhood, but for > a few days, Irving will host the AHA's National Homebrewers Conference, > beginning with June 19th's Pub Crawl. Is _too much_ good beer a problem > for you? > > Visit http://hbd.org/nhc2002/index.htm for details. > > Be there, Aloha! > Mark in Kalamazoo Return to table of contents
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