HOMEBREW Digest #4835 Tue 30 August 2005


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Contents:
  Hard Plumbing a Brew System ("Eric R. Theiner")
  Effect of Rasberries on ABV... ("Michael Eyre")
  Music To Brew By and Cider mill and press question ("Christian Layke")
  Yeast Flavor / Aeration (gornicwm)
  Re: has anyone used a coleman powerchill cooler? (Kevin\)" <krstiles@agere.com>
  RE: Music to Brew By (RiedelD)
  Correction - Valhalla - The Meading of Life Mead Competition ("David Houseman")
  ring around my fermenter (Jason Cochard)

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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 8:56:45 -0500 From: "Eric R. Theiner" <rickdude at tds.net> Subject: Hard Plumbing a Brew System Noah asks about this subject matter, and I thought he meant sweating or welding the system together... "bad idea" I thought. But the idea of simply using stainless (actually I use copper) with quick-disconnects is actually pretty normal among brew systems that I've seen. My vessels all have polysulfone quick-disconnects (available from US Plastics-- they're expensive, but really good!) as well as a few extra placements to make moving things to the sink pretty simple. As I mentioned, I use copper (and it's easy to bend), but SS makes sense as well. Rick Theiner LOGIC, Inc. Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 07:22:51 -0700 From: "Michael Eyre" <meyre at sbcglobal.net> Subject: Effect of Rasberries on ABV... Hey fellows... Made 6 gallons of a really nice wheat the other week, and racked it onto 5lbs of berries in a 6.5 gallon carboy for a few days. (Note: that container was too small!) After cleaning up the resulting mess, I now have a very red colored wheat that reads the same on the hydrometer now as it did before I put it on the berries. Mostly for curiosity, does anyone know what effect on the ABV 5lbs of raspberries will have? It was 5.1% prior... I'll even be happy with some educated guesses for what she's at now. In addition, I noticed the flavor out of the hydrometer was quite tart tasting... will this mellow out over time in the bottle? Mike Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 12:52:07 -0400 From: "Christian Layke" <clayke at wri.org> Subject: Music To Brew By and Cider mill and press question Music to brew by: At the risk of calling attention to my status as a true nerd, I find biographies on tape addictive and often borrow them from the library for long drives (much better at passing time than music!). The unabridged ones are so long it's virtually impossible to get through them. So my last bottling evening and brew day were accompanied by "No Ordinary Time"--an accounting of FDR and Eleanor Roosevelt's actions on the home front during the years leading up to and during WWII. FDR appears to have preferred cocktails to beer and Eleanor disapproved of alcohol generally, but it was still a good listen while brewing. Cider mill and press question: My wife has expressed an interest in purchasing me an apple mill and press for my birthday. This is much appreciated despite being self-serving on her part, since she can't drink my beer for the time being because our baby has food sensitivities and because she has admitted that, by purchasing a completed setup, she is trying to head off any possibility that I will disappear into the basement to work on a "project." Has anyone purchased an apple mill and/or press that they have been happy with? I have read that a food processor is the best mill available for home use, but that requires the dreaded "project." While I'm on the topic of cider, has anyone ever tried to use the yeast from a bottle of Normandy Cidre? Thanks in advance for any thoughts you may have. Christian Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 12:53:00 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: gornicwm at earthlink.net Subject: Yeast Flavor / Aeration Hello Brewers.... a couple questions: First, has anyone ever had experience brewing with generations of yeast in which the first generation tastes good and subsequent batches, using the slurry of past batches, tastes better. I have heard some homebrewers, even some pros, state that subsequent generations often have a better flavor signature than earlier batches. Is this a myth or is it just the fact of utilizing a greater number of cells in subsequent batches. I have heard this was especially true of wheat yeasts. Any thoughts??? Second, I am considering buying a aeration unit. Is it worth it? I know this unit would put my mind at ease when brewing a doppelbock or barley wine, but would the resulting beers be that much more amazing. Is the only purpose of the aeration unit to put my mind at ease and drain my wallet or are the resulting beers worthy enough for me to consider purchasing a unit. Bill Gornicki CRAFT Homebrew Club Michigan Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:33:58 -0400 From: "Stiles, Kevin R \(Kevin\)" <krstiles at agere.com> Subject: Re: has anyone used a coleman powerchill cooler? Mark L. writes: ... In the summer my basement gets too warm for fermenting (over 80F) and in the depths of winter it gets to an unhappy temp for either ales or lagers ( at 55F). I can't comment on the chiller idea, but you could also choose yeast/styles that fit your basement temperature profile. Some suggestions were posted here a while back for >80F fermentations. I can't comment on that (when I lived in FL, I built a "brew closet" with a window AC for 65 - 70F ferments, but that's another story), but I have had great experience with 3 yeasts at 55F, which is where my current basement sits in mid-winter: Wyeast 1007 German Ale, 1728 Scottish Ale, and 2112 CA lager for a steam beer. Kevin Stiles Allentown, PA [446.7, 102.3] AR Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 14:06:30 -0700 From: RiedelD at pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca Subject: RE: Music to Brew By I don't think it has been mentioned yet, but I play music appropriate to the style being brewed. Think of it as an added intangible to get your beer just right. English styles? - The Who, Pink Floyd, Radiohead, Jeff Beck, etc. German styles? - Beethoven, Mahler, Wagner US styles? - John Coltrane, Dave Brubeck, Bela Fleck, Jimi Hendrix Irish styles? - U2, Van Morrison, Cranberries Canadian styles? (What?? Other than cream ale variations? Just anything I make that I can't categorize...) - Rush, The Tragically Hip, Wide Mouth Mason, Big Sugar Belgian styles? This is a little tricky, but since I brew largely Walloon-Belgian styles, I play French music - Francis Cabrel, Ravel, Debussey Try it. You may find your beers turn out a little more true-to-style. Dave Riedel Victoria, Canada Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 17:01:54 -0400 From: "David Houseman" <david.houseman at verizon.net> Subject: Correction - Valhalla - The Meading of Life Mead Competition My bad: The Valhalla - The Meading of Life mead only competition requires only the equivalent of two (2) 12-oz bottles, NOT three (3). Thanks for the bandwidth. Dave Houseman Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 17:09:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Cochard <jcochard25 at yahoo.com> Subject: ring around my fermenter Hi, I'm a beginning brewer doing my first 5-gallon batch. It's been fermenting for about a week and I opened the lid after about 6 days to find a ring of trub around the bucket above all the beer. My question is, should I scrape that stuff off and put it into the beer to aid in flavoring, or is this the stuff that shouldn't have been racked to the fermenter anyway, and should be ignored? Any help is great, thanks. Jason Return to table of contents
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