HOMEBREW Digest #4838 Sun 04 September 2005

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  Bud vs. Bud Select (Andrew Calder)
  RE: Rasberry Wheat (Steven Parfitt)
  CA beer legislation (zuvaruvi)
  Queen of Beer Women's Homebrew (jhandy)
  shanks and tubing (Nathaniel Lansing)
  Steinbier and  Esters and starter size ("Dave Burley")
  RE: Rasberry Wheat and woodruff syrup ("Dave Burley")
  Counterflo (sort of) chiller... ("Michael Eyre")
  Fermentis Yeast Petition (UK homebrewers) (Darren Wyn Rees)

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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 20:30:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Calder <arcalder2000 at yahoo.com> Subject: Bud vs. Bud Select Howdy All, I have a mega-swill question. Can anyone taste the difference betweeen Bud and Bud Select? I was recently down in St. Louis and my first beer of the day was a regular Bud. My second beer was a Bud Select. I really couldn't tell the difference between the two of them. I was just wondering if anyone out there could. Just wondering, Andrew Calder, New Lenox, IL [218.1,257] Apparent Rennerian Return to table of contents
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 21:47:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Steven Parfitt <thegimp98 at yahoo.com> Subject: RE: Rasberry Wheat "Dave Burley" Responds to Jeff McNally's comments on Mike's Rasberry addition... >Jeff McNally comments on Mike's Raspberry addition >and estimates the 5 lbs of raspberries will >contribute 1 pound of sugar since he recalls that >raspberries are about 20 Brix. ...Snip... >The Berliners (yeah I know it is a jelly doughnut) >produce a very acidic wheat and add a sweet berry >syrup (often blackcurrant or wormwood in the >olden times)is added to cut the sourness during >consumption. .....SNIP... I suspect you mean Woodriff and not Wormwood. Wormwood is VERY BITTER! I grow Wormwood to keep deer out of my garden (Debatible whether or not it works). Woodriff is a source for Coumadin, a blood thinner and rat poison. Strange but true. .....snip..... >Keep on Brewin' >Dave Burley Return to table of contents
Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 10:50:30 -0400 From: <zuvaruvi at cox.net> Subject: CA beer legislation Charlie, Greg Aghazarian is the author of AB417 (the SB1008 rider), the legislation you are fighting in California. Below is a partial list of contributors for his campaign for assembly in 2004. It speaks volumes with regard to where this legislation is coming from. Because the big boys control the second tier, this legislation would obviously be to their advantage. Good luck, good fight, Chad Stevens QUAFF San Diego ________________________________________________________ Campaign: AGHAZARIAN 2004 Amount Transaction Date ANHEUSER-BUSCH COS., INC. $1,000 6/30/2003 ANHEUSER-BUSCH COS., INC. $1,000 5/22/2003 CALIFORNIA BEER & BEVERAGE DISTRIBUTORS $1,000 6/2/2003 E & J GALLO WINERY $3,200 8/20/2003 WINE INSTITUTE $750 9/30/2003 Campaign: AGHAZARIAN, FRIENDS OF GREG ANHEUSER-BUSCH COS., INC. $1,000 7/7/2003 CALIFORNIA BEER & BEVERAGE DISTRIBUTORS $1,000 7/7/2003 Campaign: AGHAZARIAN FOR ASSEMBLY E&J GALLO WINERY $3,000 5/7/2003 Total: $11,950 http://www.marininstitute.org/alcohol_industry/Contrib_2004/aghaz.htm Return to table of contents
Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2005 11:40:13 -0700 From: jhandy <j.handy at comcast.net> Subject: Queen of Beer Women's Homebrew When I saw this, I was curious. Why is there a separate competition for women only? Surely gender is not a factor in the ability to make a great beer. Sure, it's a male-dominated hobby, and I suppose the goal is to interest more women. But why a separate competition? Do women feel uncomfortable entering regular competitions? Is there discrimination among the judges or something? Maybe someone has a good explaination, but I don't get it. Return to table of contents
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 22:26:00 -0400 From: Nathaniel Lansing <delbrew at compuserve.com> Subject: shanks and tubing Rowan asked: >Which shank bore is best? 1/4 inch or 3/16ths??? I thought smaller beer line was better for the beer line but some websites in the US are suggesting that a 3/16ths beer line is "notorious for foaming beer"??< The only beer I've heard of that requires a 1/4 inch bore in the shank is Coor's Light. You gonna serve Coor's light? No? use a 3/16 bore shank. Some websites are wrong, 3/16 is the correct size for a direct-draw system. The head pressure in the keg at serving temperature must drop slowly in a linear fashion from the keg coupler to the mouth of the faucet. With 2.2 lb per foot drop in a 3/16 I.D. a standard keg pressure of 13- 14 lb is dropped through 6 feet of tubing, the pour is correct. Yes you can use larger tubing, maybe 1/4 inch, but with a drop of .6 lb/ft you need 22 feet of 1/4 I.D. tubing, a bit ungainly. The forward seat faucets work, they stay cleaner *longer*, not forever. A bit pricey though, as everything stainless. Return to table of contents
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 09:59:13 -0400 From: "Dave Burley" <Dave_Burley at charter.net> Subject: Steinbier and Esters and starter size Brewsters: In making steinbier using marble chunks, Eugene Johnson's club got a much higher than expected F.G. and wonders if they should have added the rock more times or what. In the first place, the high final gravity is due to a mashing procedure in which you mashed at a too high temperature most likely and not your rock addition procedure to boil the wort. If you choose to use hot rocks to raise the mash temperature, you should heat plain water to the boiling point and then add this to your mash to advance the temperature according to a known program which raises the temperature and dilutes the sugars so the saccharifying enzymes can be more effective. After lautering then you add really hot rocks to the wort or even better I think is to pour the wort over the hot rocks if you do it safely. This will give you more caramelization of the sugars which cling to the rocks. The rocks can then be added to the wort after they are cooler to rinse off these caramelized sugars. Consider loading a SS pipe with hot rocks and pouring the wort over them. Be very careful with either procedure. I recommend full safety equipment, gloves and face shield at the minimum. Heating these rocks can cause them to shatter as can dumping these rocks into water or pouring wort over them. Nathaniel I believe you missed the late FOY reply . Starting with a small starter will generate more esters, as these are produced during the growth phase. This is consistent to your observation. Keep on Brewin' Dave Burley Return to table of contents
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 10:11:43 -0400 From: "Dave Burley" <Dave_Burley at charter.net> Subject: RE: Rasberry Wheat and woodruff syrup Brewsters: > I suspect you mean Woodriff and not Wormwood. Seven Parfitt is exactly correct. I thought of this later but didn't have time to correct it and had planned to do it in this session. I did mean Woodruff syrup (a Spring tonic in Germany added to their wheat beer) and my bean cornfused this with Wormwood which was used in making Absinthe in the bad old days, I believe, Thanks. It's possible that the blood thinning properties of wormwood which Steve noted was responsible for the many bad things including death which came from using the original Absinthe potion. The extract is a source for the blood thinner Coumadin used in humans who have clotting disorders and is also a rat poison causing the rat to bleed to death internally, which Steve also notes. Keep on Brewin' Dave Burley Return to table of contents
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 10:12:55 -0700 From: "Michael Eyre" <meyre at sbcglobal.net> Subject: Counterflo (sort of) chiller... I'm looking to get out of my immersion chiller I think. As much as I like it's ease of cleaning and such, it's really killing me and my partner on the hot days when it's taking in excess of 45 minutes to cool 10 gallons down to 80 degrees, at best. We've tried the ice bath prechiller thing too, but aren't having much luck with it. I've looked at some designs, and I'm not fond of the 'hose around the hose' counterflow type, but the 'coil inside the 4 inch PVC pipe thing looks pretty durable. Anyone have much luck with this idea, and is it as effective as the hose over the hose style? Any suggestions on dimensions for the coil size and length for best results? Mike Return to table of contents
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 15:31:51 +0100 From: Darren Wyn Rees <darren at cymraeg.org> Subject: Fermentis Yeast Petition (UK homebrewers) I've started a Pledge at Pledgebank calling on Fermentis (who produce S04/Safale and Saflager for the UK) to make available more of their product for the UK homebrew market. I would be grateful for any signatures to the pledge http://www.pledgebank.com/ukhomebrewpledge The lack of a good range of dried yeasts in the UK market has been a bone of contention for many years, and there have been rumblings about Fermentis yeasts on the uk-homebrew mailing list since 2000. Thanks. Darren - -- Aberdare Blog http://blog.aberdare.org/ Only Blog In The Valley Return to table of contents
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