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Contents:
  Re: Dextrins II - Or a Long lesson in simple sugars ("Craig S. Cottingham")
  Bending tubing (Fred L Johnson)
  Re:Half coupler on my boil kettle ("MARTIN AMMON")
   ("Doug Moyer")
  I love my HBD, I love my HBD---Keep Text Version ("Pete Calinski")
  Whats Brewing in You Contest - Blatent Self Promotion ("phil wilcox")
  Bending tubing ("Spencer W. Thomas")
  Airplane keg (james_kelley64)
  Starch and protein (Chris Kafer)


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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 00:40:54 -0600
From: "Craig S. Cottingham" <craig.cottingham at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Dextrins II - Or a Long lesson in simple sugars

On Jan 18, 2007, at 15:38:47, "phil wilcox" <thephfb at hotmail.com>  
wrote:

> Molecules with 1,000 sugars wound up in them are quite common  
> barley and malt. We call them STARCH. Wind
> up a couple thousand starches and what do you get? Protein.

I don't know what you meant to say there, but I doubt it was  
"protein". Proteins are chains of amino acids, not sugars.

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Craig S. Cottingham
BJCP Certified judge from Olathe, KS ([621, 251.1deg] Apparent  
Rennerian)
craig.cottingham at gmail.com




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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 06:41:32 -0500
From: Fred L Johnson <FLJohnson52 at nc.rr.com>
Subject: Bending tubing

How does one properly bend polycarbonate tubing (such as that used in 
racking canes, etc.) to maintain its inside diameter and not crimp?

Likewise, how about copper?

Fred L Johnson
Apex, North Carolina, USA



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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 07:22:00 -0600
From: "MARTIN AMMON" <SURFSUPKS at KC.RR.COM>
Subject: Re:Half coupler on my boil kettle

Gentlemen

  He had a Half coupler welded in,  half coupler the threads don't go all the
way thru you can only thread into it from one side and in this case the outside
of the pot.

Going back to my first ideal with out going to the lathe and keeping it simple.
Also I was in error on the soft copper size it should have been 3/8 copper which
is the inside dia.  Plumbing copper goes by the ID and FRIG copper goes by OD.
The 3/8 ID copper will have a 1/2 OD this should fit (tight) into a  1/2 NPT x
11/2  nipple silver solder it into place (silver solder will hold better) the
piece of copper should be long enough to reach into the pot so you could switch
to a compression fitting and configure from there.  The compression fitting will
allow you to remove if needed, just don't over tighten the fitting so you can
get the ferrell off each time.

This is just one way around the problem the other if you live close to KC stop
by with the pot and I will Tig weld you another coupler in this time a full
coupler which will give you thread on the outside and inside.  Just bring beer
and some small change I'm easy but not cheap lol.

Martin





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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 09:15:09 -0500
From: "Doug Moyer" <shyzaboy at yahoo.com>
Subject: 

Dirk asks:

==================================
1)  Create a small starter and pitch while still active.
    -- OR --
2)  Create a large starter, let ferment out and pitch slurry only.
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Why is that an either/or question? I always make a starters in a series of 
steps, ferment, chill, decant, add starter wort, repeat. On brew day, I 
decant early in the brew process, add a small amount (typically 350 ml) and 
that is actively fermenting when I pitch it, but there is very little 
supernatant to "dilute" the REAL beer...


Brew on!
Doug Moyer
Troutville, VA

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Beer, brewing, travel & kids: http://shyzaboy.blogsome.com



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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 09:25:40 -0500
From: "Pete Calinski" <pjcalinski at adelphia.net>
Subject: I love my HBD, I love my HBD---Keep Text Version

Sing the Subject line above to the tune of "I love my MTV"

I vote to keep the text only HBD.

For those that have problems with long URLs, use:

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Pete Calinski
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Near Buffalo NY

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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 09:56:23 -0500
From: "phil wilcox" <thephfb at hotmail.com>
Subject: Whats Brewing in You Contest - Blatent Self Promotion

Hello Everyone,

And I do mean everyone! AABG, AHA, HBD, PCBers and all my friends and 
family! I need your help! For years you have been drinking my beers and 
encourageing me to do more with my hobby.  On Dec. 12 a group of local 
investors approached me about helping them open a brewpup! Boy was I 
excited! On Dec. 15 I was laid off from job at Consumers Energy, my employer 
for the last 14 years. Rather than sulking I went directly to my future 
partners office and had lunch with him to discuss the next steps. On Dec. 20 
I got an email informing me of an entreprenureal contest sponsored by 
Dogfish Head Brewery with a $10,000 prize for the best video and business 
plan pitch.

Well, the spark had been made, Consumers kindeled the fire, and this 
opportunity was like throwing gas on the fire! Please use the link below to 
go view my video and please VOTE FOR ME!  Your vote count on who will win 
the 10 grand!!! My odds have gone from 1 in infinity, to 1 in 37, to 1 in 
10, and now is 1 in 9! I've done my part. Please follow the link and vote 
for my dream. The Local Pub and Brewery.

www.whatbrewareyou.com



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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 11:05:57 -0500
From: "Spencer W. Thomas" <hbd at spencerwthomas.com>
Subject: Bending tubing

I can't help with polycarbonate tubing, I've never done it.

For copper, there are several approaches.  You can get a springy tube
bender for a few bucks. The copper tubing just fits inside it, and it
does a pretty good job of preventing the tubing from kinking.  That's
what I've done.  Examples are shown here:
http://www.idealtruevalue.com/servlet/the-169534/Detail

Others will suggest filling the tubing with sand or salt, both of which
help to keep it from collapsing/kinking at the bend.  I haven't tried
that.  I have heard of difficulties removing the sand after bending the
tube, because it's compressed together.  If you use salt, at least you
can dissolve it out.

There are also expensive machines that will do the job for you.  Search
"tube bender" on Google.

=Spencer in Ann Arbor


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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 11:59:34 -0500
From: <james_kelley64 at bellsouth.net>
Subject: Airplane keg

Nathan,
I think you will have problems.
You might try Greyhound Busses,
I have heard they will transport
kegs. Check it out.
Mark



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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:28:13 -0800 (PST)
From: Chris Kafer <chris_kafer2002 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Starch and protein

This is entirely incorrect. Proteins and starch are
comprised of different molecules!  "Winding up starch"
does NOT give you protein.  Protein is NOT converted
into starch during malting.

I doubt this is from Fix's book...

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>Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 15:38:47 -0500
>From: "phil wilcox" <thephfb at hotmail.com>
>Subject: Dextrins II - Or a Long lesson in simple
sugars

<snip>
 >Wind up a couple thousand starches and what do you
get? Protein.
>
>In brewing the maltster is responsible for the
process of converting protien
>in the malt into starch.
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