---

	FORUM ON BEER, HOMEBREWING, AND RELATED ISSUES
		Digest Janitor: pbabcock at hbd.org


***************************************************************
       THIS YEAR'S HOME BREW DIGEST BROUGHT TO YOU BY: 

                     Your Business Name Here
    Visit http://hbd.org "Sponsor the HBD"  to find out how!
			 
    Support those who support you! Visit our sponsor's site!
********** Also visit http://hbd.org/hbdsponsors.html *********


Contents:
  basic brew (leavitdg)
  Density ("A.J deLange")
  Re: Heading to San Francisco (Dean)
  Re: Basic Brew ("Michael O'Donnell")


* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
*           The HBD Logo Store is now open!             *
*            http://www.hbd.org/store.html              *
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
*  Suppport this service: http://hbd.org/donate.shtml   *
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
*   Beer is our obsession and we're late for therapy!   *
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Send articles for __publication_only__ to post@hbd.org

If your e-mail account is being deleted, please unsubscribe first!!

To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send an e-mail message with the word
  "subscribe" or "unsubscribe" to request@hbd.org FROM THE E-MAIL
  ACCOUNT YOU WISH TO HAVE SUBSCRIBED OR UNSUBSCRIBED!!!**
IF YOU HAVE SPAM-PROOFED your e-mail address, you cannot subscribe to
  the digest as we cannot reach you. We will not correct your address
  for the automation - that's your job.

HAVING TROUBLE posting, subscribing or unsusubscribing? See the HBD FAQ at
http://hbd.org.

LOOKING TO BUY OR SELL USED EQUIPMENT? Please do not post about it here. Go
instead to http://homebrewfleamarket.com and post a free ad there.

The HBD is a copyrighted document. The compilation is copyright 
  HBD.ORG. Individual postings are copyright by their authors. ASK 
  before reproducing and you'll rarely have trouble. Digest content 
  cannot be reproduced by any means for sale or profit.

More information is available by sending the word "info" to 
req@hbd.org or read the HBD FAQ at http://hbd.org.

JANITORs on duty: Pat Babcock (pbabcock at hbd dot org), Jason Henning,
                  and Spencer Thomas



----------------------------------------------------------------------


Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 06:54:42 -0400
From: leavitdg at plattsburgh.edu
Subject: basic brew

Matt;

 I have not brewed an extract batch for perhaps 10 years, so I will refrain from
suggesting a recipe, but I would certainly skip the dextrose.  They say that you
can use a little bit, with no problems, but in the "old days" they used to say
that too much could lead to cidery/ or off flavors.

 I would substitute either light DME (dry malt extract) and/ or some corn sugar
for the dextrose.

 Also, there ARE some very good dry yeasts available these days, but if you have
access to fresh liquid yeast, I believe that this would be good.

 Make sure that you get a full, rolling, 1 hour solid boil, as this is , to me,
one of the keys to a good and clear brew.  I'm sure that others will help you
with the recipe.

 Happy Brewing!
Darrell

    Plattsburgh, NY 44 42 32 N Latitude
                    73 24 16 W Longitude

 [544.9 miles, 68.9] Apparent Rennerian





Return to table of contents


Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:37:53 +0000
From: "A.J deLange" <ajdel at cox.net>
Subject: Density

The following coefficients:

     K0     = 1.0013636
     K1     = 0.0038936
     K2     = -0.00010774
     K3     = 1.516e-05
     K4     = -2.8996e-06
     K5     = -3.2143e-06

used in the formula D = K0 + K1*P + K2*T + k3*P*P + k4*P*T + k5*T*T  
will give you answers good to about 1 point (.001).
Temperature is in C and strength in Plato.

The set of coefficients:

     K0     = 3.0942e-05
     K1     = 0.0040422
     K2     = 1.9326e-06
     K3     = 4.7796e-06
     K4     = -6.4762e-06
     K5     = -5.4517e-06
     K6     = 3.0215e-07
     K7     = 1.7436e-08
     K8     = 3.2428e-08
     K9     = 1.2774e-08

used in a similar formula will get you accuracy of about .0002.

These fits are good for 0 to 100 degrees C and 0 to 21 P. Goodness 
refers to goodness of fit to the data. This is probably good to 4 or 5 
decimal places but this has not been verified.

Note that these are densities (grams/cc) and not specific gravities. I 
can do fits for specific gravities as well if this is what you need.

A.J.




Return to table of contents


Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 09:47:06 -0700
From: Dean <dean at deanandadie.net>
Subject: Re: Heading to San Francisco

Jay White is heading to SF.

Magnolia Pub has hands-down the best bitter I have ever tasted, and is a great
place for brunch.  Their wall-mural is another fine reason to check it out.
http://magnoliapub.com/

The Toronado has a great selection of Belgians.
http://toronado.com/

- --Dean
- --
Unscrambler of eggs
[3265.6k, 273.2deg] Apparent Rennerian
- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
i am become def, the mixer of words

I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul


Return to table of contents


Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 10:31:51 -0700
From: "Michael O'Donnell" <odonnell at msi.ucsb.edu>
Subject: Re: Basic Brew

Matt is looking to expand his brewing to make beer that tastes good.

Matt, if you are really looking to minimize cost, I'd suggest that you 
switch to all-grain. Lots of people will say that going to fancy liquid 
yeast is critical, but I'd definitely stick with dry yeast over skipping 
hops (Your recipe will make Zima, I think. Ok if you are just looking 
for some fermented ethanol, but not really beer.)
 
Here's a dirt-simple and cheap recipe.
Buying 9 lbs of base malt and a pound of crystal malt will set you back 
about $15
4 oz of cascade hops will go for ~$6.
Add a package of dry yeast for $2 and you've got 5 gallons of drinkable 
beer for <$25. In fact, if you go to www.morebeer.com or 
northernbrewer.com, you'll find plenty of all-grain kits for <$20... 
about 10-20% cheaper than a comparable extract kit.

Going into your homebrew store and choosing the the hops and grains by 
what is cheap is another way to make it cheaper (but, given that the 
whole thing is only $20, about the most you might save is a $1 here or 
there)... If Magnum hops are cheaper than Cascade or Glacier hops are on 
special sale, buy whichever. Your beer will taste different, but it will 
still be OK.

Read any number of brewing books (Palmer's "How to brew" is great and 
you can read it online for free). Rig up a mash / lauter tun out of a 
cooler you already  have around so you don't spend any money on it and 
just brew a batch. It won't taste worse than what you've got planned.

Once you've made your second all grain batch, you'll realize it is 
pretty easy, and then you can start worrying about stuff like choosing 
the appropriate yeast to get the flavor you want.

cheers,
mike
Santa Barbara, CA
>
> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 10:17:09 -0400
> From: "Matt Falenski" <mfalenski at verizon.net>
> Subject: Basic brew
>
> I have made a few brews so far using kits and following others recipes. For
> 5 gallons, I have been using either liquid malt extract and/or dry malt
> extract, 2-3 lbs specialty grains, 2 hop additions, and pretty much the same
> ale yeast (only one at local homebrew store.)  I want to make a basic brew
> that will taste good.  I was thinking 4-5 lbs of amber DME, 6 cups of
> dextrose, and ?? yeast. (will go elsewhere if it's suggested.) Can anyone
> note amounts or post a recipe for a very basic beer?  What I was originally
> doing for S&G was trying to make a batch at the lowest possible cost so I
> was skipping hops & grains and keeping other amounts lower.  
> Thanks!
>
>
>
>   


Return to table of contents

---