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Contents:
  Long Road Trip, need beer stops (Phil Wilcox)
  Proper welding for valves ("Martin Ammon")
  Homebrewing Course nearly full ("Lemcke Keith")
  Re:  Proper Welding for Valves ("LANCE HARBISON")


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Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 21:11:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: Phil Wilcox <thepfhb at yahoo.com>
Subject: Long Road Trip, need beer stops

Hi all,
 
In order to write off my milage I need some beer
stops. If i"m traveling through in your area of
expertise, let me know what are the must "see" places.
Itinary goes something like this...
 
Jackson, Mi
Indianapolis, IN
Kansas City, MO
Oakloma City, OK
Grand Canyon, AZ
Los Vegas, Nv
Los Angeles, Ca (Sister-in-laws)
Disney (with all the cousins)
Sea World and Stone Brewing Co.
Pacific Coast Hwy to:
The Toranado, San Francisco
Modesto, CA (Great Grandma)
?????
Rob Moline's brewpub in ??? Ames, Iowa?
Jackson, MI
 
please respond to thepfhb at comcast dot net.

Thanks!

Phil Wilcox 
Poison Frog Home Brewer 
Secretary - Prison City Brewers (Former Warden) 
AABG, AHA, BA, BJCP, HBD, Etc., Et. al ... 

Phil Wilcox
Poison Frog Home Brewer
Secretary - Prison City Brewers (Former Warden)
AABG, AHA, BJCP, HBD, Etc., Et. al ...


      


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Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 08:01:01 -0500
From: "Martin Ammon" <surfsupks at kc.rr.com>
Subject:  Proper welding for valves

Find a weld shop that can do Tig welding of stainless.   Sanitary weld is a 
process of back flowing the argon on the back side of the weld.  This leaves 
the surface smooth and free off a by- produce called sugar.    The key 
element is to ask can you do backflow welds.

What I do here for brewers is sanitary Tig weld in full couplers.  I make a 
foil pocket to tape on the inside with a probe from an argon bottle and flow 
a small amount of gas as I weld the outside.  This leaves the inside smooth 
as glass.

A weld with out the gas will leave the surface rough and hard to clean but 
can still be able to use.  The process pulls the iron out of the stainless 
that's where the term sugar comes from and the area will need to  have a 
pacification  none to keep from rusting.  There are companies that make a 
product for this but a good scrubbing with something like Barkeepers and a 
stainless steel wire brush will work.


Ask to see a shop's finished work they will be happy to show it.  Ask 
question's before the work is done.  Portland that's a little far to come 
here but I would be happy to do it.


Hope this helps


Dominus Vobiscum

Swagman 



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Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 14:27:07 -0400
From: "Lemcke Keith" <klemcke at siebelinstitute.com>
Subject: Homebrewing Course nearly full

Just a heads-up that our Siebel Institute Advanced Homebrewing Course is
nearly full, so if you want to register for this year's program you need
to do so fast. Once the course is full we will compile a waiting list on
a "first come, first registered" basis in case someone cancels their
existing registration. You can get complete information including
details on registration & the Durango, Colorado course location on the
web at http://www.siebelinstitute.com/course_desc/homebrewing.html . For
information on the course contents, contact me at
klemcke at siebelinstitute.com. 
 
Keith Lemcke
Vice-President
Siebel Institute of Technology



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Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 20:38:52 -0500
From: "LANCE HARBISON" <harbison65 at verizon.net>
Subject: Re:  Proper Welding for Valves

A sanitary weld is not necessary for the kettle and hlt.  What is needed is 
a threaded nipple - at least on the end which the ball valve will be 
screwed.  A 1/2" stainless nipple is a good choice.  Depending on the skill 
of the welder the nipple can either be positioned flush with the ID of the 
tank or it can protrude a bit.  Gas tungsten arc welding is required.  While 
welding from the ID side is the best situation, it can also be welded from 
the OD side, but expect to grind off the "sugar" that will form on the 
opposite side.  Depending on the thickness of the wall not much heat is 
needed.  Too much heat, with an inexperienced welder, will result in a big 
hole.

Lance Harbison 




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