HOMEBREW Digest #5600 Thu 03 September 2009

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  Re: Does dry hopping add flavor? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] ("Williams, Rowan")
  fresh hops (Chris Williams)
  RE: Does dry hopping add flavor? (Matt Wallace)

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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 14:37:54 +1000 From: "Williams, Rowan" <Rowan.Williams at ag.gov.au> Subject: Re: Does dry hopping add flavor? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] Hi Jim, Dry hopping certainly does add flavour. IMO, certain hops are better suited to this task than others. A favourite dry hop I like to use in my APA's is Simcoe. I use large sanitised stainless steel teaballs / herb holders and drop them in the keg with the desired quantity of dry hops when I keg the beer to give me a fresh hop flavour hit. More a "depthcharge" than a "torpedo" to pinch a Sierra Nevada phrase!! I find this an easy way to make use of my home grown hops - no need to try to guess their bittering potential when you use them for flavouring and aroma! Cheers, Rowan Williams Canberra Brewers Club, Australia [9588.6, 261.5] AR (statute miles) - ---------------------------------------------------- If you have received this transmission in error please notify us immediately by return e-mail and delete all copies. If this e-mail or any attachments have been sent to you in error, that error does not constitute waiver of any confidentiality, privilege or copyright in respect of information in the e-mail or attachments. Return to table of contents
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 23:03:00 -0700 From: Chris Williams <chwilliams at gmail.com> Subject: fresh hops couple of things to share... first, found this at http://www.probrewer.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=14949 """ Hop Harvest is well under way, unfortunately the “long” market conditions for Willamettes and the fair yield puts us in a unique position. We have picked all the Willamette’s we need to fulfill our obligations but still have 30 acres on trellis. We have decided to offer these fresh hops to Brewers in our area. That’s Right, Fresh Hops, No Charge, You Pick. For details contact Roy Farms Moxee, WA 509-452-3494 """ second, picked up some fresh Cascade from Hop Union in Yakima today, they're selling directly to homebrewers and they said they'll have more varieties next week. they're _really_ wet Disclaimer: i'm not associated with either of these organizations in any way, shape, or form, just a Northwest homebrewer with a itch for fresh hops :) Return to table of contents
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 09:28:27 -0700 From: Matt Wallace <dubious.chewy at gmail.com> Subject: RE: Does dry hopping add flavor? We've got 5 tastes: salty, sweet, sour, savory/umami, and most important for this discussion, bitter. It's my understanding that everything else is. in fact, aroma. Flavor=taste+aromatics. So, yeah, dry hops add flavor, because they change the taste+aromatics equation. But, I don't think they add much in the way of bitterness. (Here's where my expertise ends, though. It's my very limited understanding that the various hop acids need to be isomerized to add bitterness, and that doesn't really happen sitting around in beer at room/fridge temp) Ok, so this raises a question I've had in the back of my mind for a bit. What the heck are "flavor hops", anyway? So many recipes call for a 15 minute "flavor hop" addition. Is it anyone's experience that you actually get a different/improved character from this practice, vs more hops at the start of the boil and more hops at flameout or in secondary? Undoubtedly, this question has been hashed out on the HBD before, but I wonder if there's some fun in having the discussion. Matt in Oregon Return to table of contents
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