HOMEBREW Digest #5779 Mon 24 January 2011

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  Re: natural gas regulator? (Ryan Kearn)
  Re: natural gas regulator? (bill keiser)
  re:natural gas regulaor ("oobyjooby")
  Life expectancy of a mini keg (Mike Schwartz)
  Re: Natural gas regulator (Chuck Petersen)
  Re: mini kegs (jrdunne)

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---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 16:53:32 +1000 From: Ryan Kearn <ryankearn at gmail.com> Subject: Re: natural gas regulator? Hi Paul, I just put one of these in front of the burner... http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100537612/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1 &storeId=10051&catalogId=10053 or http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100345785/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1 &storeId=10051&catalogId=10053 It could also be that you don't have a large enough supply line to run both burners at the same time. HTH, Ryan Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 06:54:26 -0500 From: bill keiser <sharpstik at verizon.net> Subject: Re: natural gas regulator? Most burners have a rotating air entry plate at the venturi where the gas enters. That should be rotated to adjust the air that mixes in. Too much air makes yellow flame. What kind of burner ring is yours? bill keiser > I've got two of the 6 inch diameter natural gas burners with > 10 jets on them. The one on the boil kettle is doing fine, nice > blue flames. The one on the HLT though is burning yellow > and leaving soot. Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 07:57:01 -0500 From: "oobyjooby" <oobyjooby at cs.com> Subject: re:natural gas regulaor I would want to know why 2 of the same burners are acting differently. Pull a nozzle from each burner and see if the gas orifices are the same and the air inlet holes are the same. Perhaps 1 is in fact set up for propane use?? A too small orifice would give a low velocity, poor air mixing and poor burning characteristics. The question that comes to mind would be; what happens to the burner that is working OK after you add a regulator? Is by chance the good one on a longer pipe with a few more elbows and fittings? that would lead to lower delivery at that one burner, or vice versa. A regulator may help but that wouldn't be the first thing to try. Swap the burners around if that's not difficult and see if the problem moves too. Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 07:49:11 -0600 From: Mike Schwartz <mjs at seadogboats.com> Subject: Life expectancy of a mini keg The inside is coated to prevent contact between beer and steel. I've used mini kegs at least 5 or 6 times, sometime more than 10 before having issues with metallic taste and the first time for each keg it's always been minor. Never had problems with contamination. I have mostly used mini kegs for camping so they tend to get rough treatment. If you baby them you'll likely do better. - -- Mike Schwartz Beer Barons of Milwaukee beerbarons.org worldofbeerfestival.com Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 09:01:23 -0800 From: Chuck Petersen <chpete at opusnet.com> Subject: Re: Natural gas regulator Paul Before getting a new or additional regulator make sure the venturi to the burner is clean. My burners are kept outside and if a little creepy crawly gets into the air input for the burners I get the same reaction you speak of. I clean them out with a pipe cleaner and that usually takes care of the problem. Chuck Petersen Deer Island, Oregon Return to table of contents
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2011 17:22:32 -0500 (EST) From: <jrdunne at rcn.com> Subject: Re: mini kegs Trish: Cleaning solution - not sure, but I assume you mean that you have perhaps an old bottle of star san (or whatever solution you use). As long as you haven't mixed it in with water it should be fine. Also, I understand that solutions like star san will stay effective over time as long as they are in the proper ph range. Mini-kegs should be good for at least a half dozen batches. More, perhaps, if you treat them well. They have a liner on the inside that appears to be some sort of resin or liquid applied coating. If that gets scratched up, the keg might start to rust, and the keg is done. I've not been too concerned about the plastic parts of the tap in the bottom. I've alternated between opening them during cleaning and not. My opinion is that as long as you use a good cleanser and sanitizer, you should be fine. You're basically following a clean-in-place methodology and anything that beer can touch your cleanser and sanitizer will touch. In my opinion, it's important (and tricky) to get the kegs dry before storing them empty. To do this, I stuff a rag partially into the top hole and shake the keg. The rag absorbs the bulk of the water that is trapped in the keg and you're done. I've never found air drying these to be effective without this approach. Most of my mini-kegs are several years old. I've only just started reusing them again after not having used them for a couple of years. So far, no problems. Good luck. JOE Return to table of contents
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